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Post by MarkWolstanton on Aug 28, 2015 13:31:49 GMT
Afternoon Witchfinder. Apologies for interrupting your banner decoration preparation. I have no reason to believe he did not make the decision all on his own. Long term observers of St Peter will have noted he tends to make his own mind up about things. I refer you to the (one of many) example of his decision to go against all advice and appoint a manager who in various opinion polls conducted at the time had the lowest popularity rating recorded. He has no track record of being swayed to or from a course of action by others. I have no doubt you can now provide me with conclusive evidence to prove that he on this occasion and circumstance he acted contrary to the habits of a lifetime? Various opinion polls?! Various fucking opinion polls run on behalf a mid table championship club?! Give over, Joan. You may remember back then that outside of the supporter base and local media, no one gave a flying fucking fuck about Stoke City. Coates Senior himself admitted that Jon Coates was the prime mover in identifying Hughes so I don't think its too much of a stretch to think he had a hand in the decision to remove Pulis, do you? Coates looked genuinely upset when it happened and described Pulis as 'a great friend'. Coates doesn't do anything he doesn't want to but its clear that certain people were briefing against Pulis in his final year and the relationship with Scholes was non existent in the end. Anyway the Coates family and Pulis remain friends and attended a Pulis family wedding together not long after he was sacked, proving once and for all that both parties have more class in their little fingers than some of the cunts on this thread! So you have accepted that Coates and Coates alone removed Tone from office and I guess that also means you will call off the Witch Finder vigilante mob regarding the backroom staff who have helped to move the club forward so significantly? I'm reading through the waffle correctly am I?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 28, 2015 13:47:59 GMT
He put the statement about managing two different teams since he left us in the context of it seeming to make a difference if we applauded him or not. It's his FIRST return to the Brit. Pulis has proved me wrong. He has proved a lot of people wrong. At least I can admit that. The more I look back at his achievments the more I admire them. Is that so difficult to understand.? So in effect, you are applauding his achievements at Crystal Palace and West Brom. Why on earth would you do that, especially after his comments after Palace's victory at Everton that he had a "different" squad of players than he had at Stoke, one that had pace and could play through the middle more (despite having years and huge amounts of cash to build one here). Read my comment above about the context the "managing two different teams ...." statement was made in. Anyway ....even if I do admire how he has performed at Palace and West Brom... what's so wrong with that?? I'm not bloody supporting them ! Think you maybe a bit paranoid about TP actually.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 28, 2015 13:51:16 GMT
Pulis has destroyed any joy, excitement, anticipation that I had supporting SCFC (for the last fifty years). As soon as I heard the line-up today... Whitehead replacing Adam... you knew the score. Pulis will keep us in the Premiership as long as PC is holding the purse strings. Absolutely no worries. It's the most boring, joyless, soul-destroying, turgid pile of shit I've ever had the misfortune to witness. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/587/recent?page=17#ixzz3k7LmFNU4
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Post by RAF on Aug 28, 2015 13:53:13 GMT
This is how it is. TP will want to come here and turn us over. He will want to kick Coatesy in the bollocks and say 'You deserve that for sacking me'. He will be pissing his sides at the 'Forever Grateful' banners and cheers for his name because he doesn't give a fuck about us. He didn't care what we thought when he was our manager never mind now! He will enjoy seeing you miserable if we get beaten. Why? Because he is a ruthless cunt a feature that was so endearing to many at Stoke and a manager of not just one but two teams after us. So while you are spunking over his name with your 'Forever Gratefulness' he will be pissing his sides endeavouring to stick a knife into the chairman who made him the most financially backed Stoke manager in history and in truth paid him a kings ransom probably two years more than he should. So enjoy your Pulis Jizzfest, he definitely will do. A polite 5 second golfers clap from me and then getting right behind Mark Hughes and the lads. H (rofl) I bet you're a right laugh down the pub! Stay away from sharp blades! You've lost me. But for clarification I'm a reet barrel O laughs down the boozer. How's the jizz drying on your banner? H
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Post by Davef on Aug 28, 2015 14:00:24 GMT
So in effect, you are applauding his achievements at Crystal Palace and West Brom. Why on earth would you do that, especially after his comments after Palace's victory at Everton that he had a "different" squad of players than he had at Stoke, one that had pace and could play through the middle more (despite having years and huge amounts of cash to build one here). Read my comment above about the context the "managing two different teams ...." statement was made in. Anyway ....even if I do admire how he has performed at Palace and West Brom... what's so wrong with that?? I'm not bloody supporting them ! Think you maybe a bit paranoid about TP actually. Think what you like.
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Post by werrington on Aug 28, 2015 14:03:11 GMT
Credit to Mark Hughes Especially after the Pulis snide digs last season prior to the WBA game
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Aug 28, 2015 14:03:45 GMT
For anyone that's interested... 6mins - Jon Walters. 8mins - Stoke City. 11mins - Mark Hughes. Let the disecting of what he said & didn't say commence
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 14:05:09 GMT
Fuck me he's wearing a cap
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Post by Davef on Aug 28, 2015 14:08:03 GMT
For anyone that's interested... 6mins - Jon Walters. 8mins - Stoke City. 11mins - Mark Hughes. Let the disecting of what he said & didn't say commence Doesn't like Sparky does he?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 28, 2015 14:08:12 GMT
Pulis has destroyed any joy, excitement, anticipation that I had supporting SCFC (for the last fifty years). As soon as I heard the line-up today... Whitehead replacing Adam... you knew the score. Pulis will keep us in the Premiership as long as PC is holding the purse strings. Absolutely no worries. It's the most boring, joyless, soul-destroying, turgid pile of shit I've ever had the misfortune to witness. Read more: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/user/587/recent?page=17#ixzz3k7LmFNU4Yes that's right ..... That comment about keeping us in the Premiership .... I've come to the conclusion that it needed that attritional type of play and formations to keep us there. We all know he could have improved things and done a lot better in certain aspects. We were new boys in the big, bad, scary world of the Premiership. He narrowed the pitch, coached long-throws and second phase ball from set-plays. Don't think he's been given enough credit and certainly not enough thanks from the fans.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 28, 2015 14:07:56 GMT
Various opinion polls?! Various fucking opinion polls run on behalf a mid table championship club?! Give over, Joan. You may remember back then that outside of the supporter base and local media, no one gave a flying fucking fuck about Stoke City. Coates Senior himself admitted that Jon Coates was the prime mover in identifying Hughes so I don't think its too much of a stretch to think he had a hand in the decision to remove Pulis, do you? Coates looked genuinely upset when it happened and described Pulis as 'a great friend'. Coates doesn't do anything he doesn't want to but its clear that certain people were briefing against Pulis in his final year and the relationship with Scholes was non existent in the end. Anyway the Coates family and Pulis remain friends and attended a Pulis family wedding together not long after he was sacked, proving once and for all that both parties have more class in their little fingers than some of the cunts on this thread! So you have accepted that Coates and Coates alone removed Tone from office and I guess that also means you will call off the Witch Finder vigilante mob regarding the backroom staff who have helped to move the club forward so significantly? I'm reading through the waffle correctly am I? Have you seen The Godfather, Joan?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 28, 2015 14:09:25 GMT
For anyone that's interested... 6mins - Jon Walters. 8mins - Stoke City. 11mins - Mark Hughes. Let the disecting of what he said & didn't say commence Doesn't like Sparky does he? We didn't like Mark Hughes when he was Manager of Fulham.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 28, 2015 14:17:11 GMT
So in effect, you are applauding his achievements at Crystal Palace and West Brom. Why on earth would you do that, especially after his comments after Palace's victory at Everton that he had a "different" squad of players than he had at Stoke, one that had pace and could play through the middle more (despite having years and huge amounts of cash to build one here). Read my comment above about the context the "managing two different teams ...." statement was made in. Anyway ....even if I do admire how he has performed at Palace and West Brom... what's so wrong with that?? I'm not bloody supporting them ! Think you maybe a bit paranoid about TP actually. It's just very, very odd that you wanted him gone pretty much every second he was here and seemingly based on how he's done elsewhere are getting all misty eyed and lovelorn over him. Despite over that time us playing some of our best football in years and achieving our best league finishes for decades. It doesn't make sense.
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Post by Davef on Aug 28, 2015 14:24:41 GMT
Doesn't like Sparky does he? We didn't like Mark Hughes when he was Manager of Fulham. What's that got to do with anything? Tony is a Premier League manager, not a partisan supporter, who is gushing in his praise every week of every single manager he comes up against, except Mark Hughes that is. I thought he was a bit classless when asked about Hughes to be honest. Contrast that to the Stoke manager's reply when asked about his predecessor. Still, each to their own.
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Post by werrington on Aug 28, 2015 14:24:58 GMT
For anyone that's interested... 6mins - Jon Walters. 8mins - Stoke City. 11mins - Mark Hughes. Let the disecting of what he said & didn't say commence Doesn't like Sparky does he? He licks managers arse after managers arse in EVERY single one of his pre match interviews but the last twice he's dissed Hughes before the Stoke game Pathetic
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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 28, 2015 14:30:21 GMT
Read my comment above about the context the "managing two different teams ...." statement was made in. Anyway ....even if I do admire how he has performed at Palace and West Brom... what's so wrong with that?? I'm not bloody supporting them ! Think you maybe a bit paranoid about TP actually. It's just very, very odd that you wanted him gone pretty much every second he was here and seemingly based on how he's done elsewhere are getting all misty eyed and lovelorn over him. Despite over that time us playing some of our best football in years and achieving our best league finishes for decades. It doesn't make sense. Without splitting too many hairs... Yes... a lot of the time he bored me shitless .... I also had some of my best moments as a Stoke supporter. Think I've just come to appreciate just what he actually did.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 28, 2015 14:31:55 GMT
It's just very, very odd that you wanted him gone pretty much every second he was here and seemingly based on how he's done elsewhere are getting all misty eyed and lovelorn over him. Despite over that time us playing some of our best football in years and achieving our best league finishes for decades. It doesn't make sense. Without splitting too many hairs... Yes... a lot of the time he bored me shitless .... I also had some of my best moments as a Stoke supporter. Think I've just come to appreciate just what he actually did. It's quite an about turn, isn't it?
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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 28, 2015 14:35:28 GMT
We didn't like Mark Hughes when he was Manager of Fulham. What's that got to do with anything? Tony is a Premier League manager, not a partisan supporter, who is gushing in his praise every week of every single manager he comes up against, except Mark Hughes that is. I thought he was a bit classless when asked about Hughes to be honest. Contrast that to the Stoke manager's reply when asked about his predecessor. Still, each to their own. The thing is Pulis doesn't like Hughes because he(Hughes) lambasted one of our players (when Fulham manager) after a particular match and thought that Sparky overstepped the mark (hahah) You think he doesn't like Hughes cuz he's Manager of Stoke and took his place.
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Post by werrington on Aug 28, 2015 14:38:54 GMT
What's that got to do with anything? Tony is a Premier League manager, not a partisan supporter, who is gushing in his praise every week of every single manager he comes up against, except Mark Hughes that is. I thought he was a bit classless when asked about Hughes to be honest. Contrast that to the Stoke manager's reply when asked about his predecessor. Still, each to their own. The thing is Pulis doesn't like Hughes because he(Hughes) lambasted one of our players (when Fulham manager) after a particular match and thought that Sparky overstepped the mark (hahah) You think he doesn't like Hughes cuz he's Manager of Stoke and took his place. He fell out with Arsene Wenger about one of our players but now it's a love in You've lost me
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Post by mrred on Aug 28, 2015 14:44:25 GMT
Quite the abrasive man isn't he? With any luck after this little rendezvous is over, we can move on from the fawning and shit slinging every time Pulis is mentioned. But I won't hold my breath.
Last time I looked, that other Pulis thread was around 14 pages so in the space of a few weeks, there's been 20 pages of garbage over a man that's clearly moved on and has had 2 jobs in the two years since leaving here.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 28, 2015 14:46:47 GMT
The thing is Pulis doesn't like Hughes because he(Hughes) lambasted one of our players (when Fulham manager) after a particular match and thought that Sparky overstepped the mark (hahah) You think he doesn't like Hughes cuz he's Manager of Stoke and took his place. He fell out with Arsene Wenger about one of our players but now it's a love in You've lost me Maybe he just doesn't like Mark Hughes mate?it is possible you know.I like you wish he would credit Sparky in the work he's done since he left but if he's not man enough to do it so be it but it doesn't take away from the job he did here in my eyes.
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Post by feedtheshaq on Aug 28, 2015 14:51:27 GMT
So turning a club from a small Championship club into a midtable Premier League club is only worthy of a 'good' rating from Hughes. He's the one showing no respect today.
Surely in his mind raising Stoke from 12th to 9th must be considered a poor job? Considering a 30 place rise is only a 'good'
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Post by Davef on Aug 28, 2015 14:55:44 GMT
So turning a club from a small Championship club into a midtable Premier League club is only worthy of a 'good' rating from Hughes. He's the one showing no respect today. Surely in his mind raising Stoke from 12th to 9th must be considered a poor job? Considering a 30 place rise is only a 'good' A good manager who did a great job were Mark Hughes' words. He said similar before both the Palace and West Brom games over the last two seasons. Tony Pulis hasn't been able to bring himself to credit the job Hughes has done at Stoke in the last three press conferences he's had before facing Stoke. Granted, things weren't going great for Sparky around the time of the Palace game, but TP has let himself down before both the West Brom games in my opinion.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Aug 28, 2015 15:08:40 GMT
So turning a club from a small Championship club into a midtable Premier League club is only worthy of a 'good' rating from Hughes. He's the one showing no respect today. Surely in his mind raising Stoke from 12th to 9th must be considered a poor job? Considering a 30 place rise is only a 'good' Fucking hell Jokelad is that you?
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Post by march4 on Aug 28, 2015 15:12:56 GMT
For anyone that's interested... 6mins - Jon Walters. 8mins - Stoke City. 11mins - Mark Hughes. Let the disecting of what he said & didn't say commence Watching that video makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. I trust the banners are ready. I suppose the only question now is will 28,000 folk sing; 'only one Tony Pulis.........' or will it be; 'we love you Tony, we do.......'. I guess the ref will have to bring the players out early before the game as there is a risk of kick off being delayed. I presume TP's jog from tunnel to dugout will be broadcast live by Sky Sports and probably BBC. I would suggest those who are thinking of strewing flowers in TP's path to refrain as they could be in contravention of the stadium rules of throwing things onto the running track. Surely the great man will be allowed to make a speech before kick off. Perhaps a podium in front of the away dugout so everyone can catch a good view of him. Its a shame the Oatie fanzine aren't doing a commemorative. glossy edition with an A3 pull out poster of TP, but we don't want to overdo things do we?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 28, 2015 15:13:53 GMT
Can't make that video work on my phone but will simply take it as red that it was as big a non event as the supposed slur prior to the West Brom away game.
Witch finder generals indeed.
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Post by bringmesunshine on Aug 28, 2015 15:16:05 GMT
Correct me if I’m wrong but did he say anything about looking forward to seeing the wonderful supporters, the 12th man of the club, I heard him say he was looking forward to seeing the family, especially Peter and also the friends he has at the club but I don’t think we were mentioned once. Funny that considering how important we apparently were to him while he was here.
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Post by Titan Uranus on Aug 28, 2015 15:16:12 GMT
Without splitting too many hairs... Yes... a lot of the time he bored me shitless .... I also had some of my best moments as a Stoke supporter. Think I've just come to appreciate just what he actually did. It's quite an about turn, isn't it? Suppose so... Be a bit like yours when Diouf scores 20 goals this season
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Post by timbstoke on Aug 28, 2015 15:28:08 GMT
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Post by chiefdelilah on Aug 28, 2015 15:29:01 GMT
It's quite an about turn, isn't it? Suppose so... Be a bit like yours when Diouf scores 20 goals this season It'd only be like that if I was vociferously and noisily slating the player at length and wanting us to get shut of him for years on end before suddenly deciding he was marvellous after we'd sold him and lecturing anyone who didn't think the same.
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