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Post by spitthedog on Aug 16, 2015 20:32:14 GMT
Having been written off by nearly all on here over the last 2/3 weeks, Ireland comes on and changes the game. A week back, he wasn't on the bench of most people's first choice XI and regarded as surplus to requirements.
Of course, now it seems he should be starting every game.
I reckon the focus will turn on Charlie now until of course he comes on and scores another blinder. His monumental performances in the second half of last season now forgotten
Joselu was written off before the season started, but now earns a reprieve
Afellay has got about 20 minutes against Norwich I reckon before the focus turns on him.
We've already decided that Bego was an accident waiting to happen and we are best rid, until of course JB spills one.
Aren't we nice to our players?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 16, 2015 20:38:22 GMT
Football fans in acting like football fans shocker.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 16, 2015 20:41:56 GMT
Having been written off by nearly all on here over the last 2/3 weeks, Ireland comes on and changes the game. A week back, he wasn't on the bench of most people's first choice XI and regarded as surplus to requirements. Of course, now it seems he should be starting every game. I reckon the focus will turn on Charlie now until of course he comes on and scores another blinder. His monumental performances in the second half of last season now forgotten Joselu was written off before the season started, but now earns a reprieve Afellay has got about 20 minutes against Norwich I reckon before the focus turns on him. We've already decided that Bego was an accident waiting to happen and we are best rid, until of course JB spills one. Aren't we nice to our players? I think there are times when fans can be harsh on certain players but I'm not sure that because people chose to put Ireland behind players who have been newly signed/playing regularly/playing well is "writing him off". I really like Ireland but it seemed to me that he was behind Bojan, Adam and possibly Affelay. Why is that unreasonable based on the past 10 games? Sent from my GT-I8190N using proboards |
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 16, 2015 20:42:09 GMT
Not sure where you've seen all of this critism , Ireland has his critics ,mostly for good reason . He's very inconsistent
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Aug 16, 2015 20:52:09 GMT
At times Ireland is very good but he is a bit lightweight. So, it's horses for courses.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 16, 2015 20:54:27 GMT
Football fans in acting like football fans shocker. Maybe we don't need to act like football fans all of the time. |
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Post by Linx on Aug 16, 2015 21:21:22 GMT
Not sure where you've seen all of this critism , Ireland has his critics ,mostly for good reason . He's very inconsistent If Hughes starts Ireland against Norwich, he will no doubt have one of those games where he is peripheral, off-the-pace, and nothing like the stick of dynamite that performed for the last twenty minutes against Spurs. Hughes will replace him after an hour. So it goes. |
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 16, 2015 21:26:22 GMT
Not sure where you've seen all of this critism , Ireland has his critics ,mostly for good reason . He's very inconsistent If Hughes starts Ireland against Norwich, he will no doubt have one of those games where he is peripheral, off-the-pace, and nothing like the stick of dynamite that performed for the last twenty minutes against Spurs. Hughes will replace him after an hour. So it goes. Exactly , we all wish he would become that player he was for a couple of seasons at man c . |
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Post by Linx on Aug 16, 2015 21:28:57 GMT
If Hughes starts Ireland against Norwich, he will no doubt have one of those games where he is peripheral, off-the-pace, and nothing like the stick of dynamite that performed for the last twenty minutes against Spurs. Hughes will replace him after an hour. So it goes. Exactly , we all wish he would become that player he was for a couple of seasons at man c . I still maintain that it was Citeh offloading him as a makeweight in the Barry deal messed with his confidence so much that he still hasn't got his complete mojo back. |
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Post by retired1 on Aug 16, 2015 21:43:43 GMT
What would people talk about on here if they couldnt write off at least half the team each week?
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Post by pyrus on Aug 16, 2015 21:43:49 GMT
Not sure where you've seen all of this critism , Ireland has his critics ,mostly for good reason . He's very inconsistent I'm forming an opinion that Ireland is as good as the players around him. At Man City with Elano, Robinho, Sturridge, Kompany and others around him, he was arguably their best player. At Villa he was as shit as the rest of them. At Stoke he has blown hot and cold, but on Saturday he had the attackers all looking lively and the rest of the midfield running round making space and giving him options. He just slotted right in. He makes good players look better, but if the rest of the team is bit flat, he tends to be as well. |
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Post by Fred Merger on Aug 16, 2015 21:47:43 GMT
Exactly , we all wish he would become that player he was for a couple of seasons at man c . I still maintain that it was Citeh offloading him as a art 0makeweight in the Barry deal messed with his confidence so much that he still hasn't got his complete mojo back. I think he was part of the Milner deal mate, not barry! |
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Aug 16, 2015 21:50:37 GMT
Having been written off by nearly all on here over the last 2/3 weeks, Ireland comes on and changes the game. A week back, he wasn't on the bench of most people's first choice XI and regarded as surplus to requirements. Of course, now it seems he should be starting every game. I reckon the focus will turn on Charlie now until of course he comes on and scores another blinder. His monumental performances in the second half of last season now forgotten Joselu was written off before the season started, but now earns a reprieve Afellay has got about 20 minutes against Norwich I reckon before the focus turns on him. We've already decided that Bego was an accident waiting to happen and we are best rid, until of course JB spills one. Aren't we nice to our players? It's all stuff on the internet though mate, means nothing really. Its the vibes in the ground that count. |
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Post by Linx on Aug 16, 2015 21:50:51 GMT
Well, someone like that. Villa never really recovered from the dismemberment of MON's team.
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 16, 2015 22:05:30 GMT
Not sure where you've seen all of this critism , Ireland has his critics ,mostly for good reason . He's very inconsistent I'm forming an opinion that Ireland is as good as the players around him. At Man City with Elano, Robinho, Sturridge, Kompany and others around him, he was arguably their best player. At Villa he was as shit as the rest of them. At Stoke he has blown hot and cold, but on Saturday he had the attackers all looking lively and the rest of the midfield running round making space and giving him options. He just slotted right in. He makes good players look better, but if the rest of the team is bit flat, he tends to be as well. Maybe you're right about that , very strange though |
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 16, 2015 22:08:39 GMT
Not sure where you've seen all of this critism , Ireland has his critics ,mostly for good reason . He's very inconsistent I'm forming an opinion that Ireland is as good as the players around him. At Man City with Elano, Robinho, Sturridge, Kompany and others around him, he was arguably their best player. At Villa he was as shit as the rest of them. At Stoke he has blown hot and cold, but on Saturday he had the attackers all looking lively and the rest of the midfield running round making space and giving him options. He just slotted right in. He makes good players look better, but if the rest of the team is bit flat, he tends to be as well. A decent argument. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 22:11:50 GMT
If a player gets written off on here - you can depend on it that he is a good player. Simple.
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Post by njkk on Aug 16, 2015 22:16:47 GMT
I don't like it when Stokies slag off their own players no matter who they are, yes folks have an opinion of players merits & shortcomings, but for me if they're wearing our stripes they deserve our support.
Maybe I'm just a big softy though
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Post by thehoof on Aug 16, 2015 22:20:03 GMT
It's not just here with Ireland though is it?
Newcastle, Villa and for us he is totally inconsistent.
On his day brilliant, usually followed by 3 or 4 games where he is peripheral and ends up being dropped.
If he had any semblance of consistency, he'd walk into most teams
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 22:23:03 GMT
Yes, when he does it consistently, he'll prove people wrong, until then the same will be said of him. He needs to start next weekend against Norwich and do it again for a start!
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 16, 2015 22:25:21 GMT
Shaqiri is dog shit. There, I got it in first.
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Post by march4 on Aug 16, 2015 22:27:25 GMT
That Greenhoff was rubbish when he first arrived - waste of money!
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Post by ashleyscfc on Aug 16, 2015 22:36:49 GMT
Bojan - too lightweight
Arnautovic - show pony
Begovic - just a shot stopper
Ireland - no effort
Diouf - not a goal scorer
Johnson - defensively awful
Muniesa - not strong enough
Nzonzi - Mard arse, sideways passer
Remember these?
I'm first for slating players I don't rate, we all definitely need some perspective sometimes and realise how football is always different shades of grey
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Post by mailman44 on Aug 16, 2015 22:40:36 GMT
Just remember: WE ARE STOKE!
Vis unita fortior
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 16, 2015 23:37:46 GMT
That Greenhoff was rubbish when he first arrived - waste of money! Hey, I remember the flak he used to get from the fans then. He was not always popular. |
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Post by 2004 on Aug 16, 2015 23:42:21 GMT
If a player gets written off on here - you can depend on it that he is a good player. Simple. So by your logic Dionatan Teixeira is a good player then? |
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Post by kustokie on Aug 17, 2015 0:21:16 GMT
Not sure where you've seen all of this critism , Ireland has his critics ,mostly for good reason . He's very inconsistent If Hughes starts Ireland against Norwich, he will no doubt have one of those games where he is peripheral, off-the-pace, and nothing like the stick of dynamite that performed for the last twenty minutes against Spurs. Hughes will replace him after an hour. So it goes. Beg to differ. I believe Irealnd has fire in his belly because he's fighting for his job (not just his place in the starting XI) |
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 17, 2015 5:20:19 GMT
Bojan - too lightweight Arnautovic - show pony Begovic - just a shot stopper Ireland - no effort Diouf - not a goal scorer Johnson - defensively awful Muniesa - not strong enough Nzonzi - Mard arse, sideways passer Remember these? I'm first for slating players I don't rate, we all definitely need some perspective sometimes and realise how football is always different shades of grey Wolly - not even a footballer |
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Aug 17, 2015 10:31:14 GMT
Bojan - too lightweight Arnautovic - show pony Begovic - just a shot stopper Ireland - no effort Diouf - not a goal scorer Johnson - defensively awful Muniesa - not strong enough Nzonzi - Mard arse, sideways passer Remember these? I'm first for slating players I don't rate, we all definitely need some perspective sometimes and realise how football is always different shades of grey And at certain points all those comments were valid. Things change. So what. Sent from my GT-I8190N using proboards |
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 17, 2015 10:32:11 GMT
Not sure where you've seen all of this critism , Ireland has his critics ,mostly for good reason . He's very inconsistent I'm forming an opinion that Ireland is as good as the players around him. At Man City with Elano, Robinho, Sturridge, Kompany and others around him, he was arguably their best player. At Villa he was as shit as the rest of them. At Stoke he has blown hot and cold, but on Saturday he had the attackers all looking lively and the rest of the midfield running round making space and giving him options. He just slotted right in. He makes good players look better, but if the rest of the team is bit flat, he tends to be as well. spot on mate !! |
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