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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 3, 2015 11:40:40 GMT
Ok.So what are the reasons for optimism? We support a premier league team, we have an excellent manager and an excellent chairman who has brought us 2 9th place finishes in the richest league in the world. Oh and we've kept our leading goalscorer.
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 3, 2015 11:43:16 GMT
How long before the 'poison dressing room' comments start? We've lost our DNA.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 3, 2015 11:44:35 GMT
It's a team game and we've only lost two main players. Bego had been dropped anyway for whatever reason and Butland showed nothing but positive potential and no reasons at all for why he should flop.
Huth, as much as I was pissed off at his signing for Leicester, has been little more than a bit part player for so long that we simply don't rely on him any more. I can understand that with Shawcross possibly (and not confirmed yet) for so long we might not be as stong as we like at the back, but we have experienced cover there, and still a whole fucking month of the window to go in case things are looking like a code red situation. Wollscheid hasn't set the world alight but he's getting far too much stick, it's pathetic.
Which leaves the N'zonzi departure. Player of the season yeah, but he's one player, and one who pragmatically hasn't been that amazing until the second half of the season just gone. People talk about him as though every result has hinged on him which has been bollocks. We've replaced him with a highly rated youngster with genuine pedigree. I don't get the hysteria that it's only a loan. They can't recall him so we have him for the year, which is the same amount of time we'd have had Nzonzi for.
We've strengthened / are strengthening in wide areas with a month left to go. We've strengthened up front with a month left to go. Bojan lacking fitness? He's two fucking months ahead of schedule!
We've got most of our business done early as opposed to leaving it to deadline day. This means that our new signings are available and prepared from the off, rather than mid October, despite how they've done in meaningless run-around friendlies.
We've come off the back of our best season in decades and have a top class manager who knows what he's doing, has more credit in the bank than any other manager I've known at Stoke, and whose signings thus far have been impeccable.
Things are looking in far better shape than the unwarranted mass hysteria on here would suggest. It's coming from three or four loud negative fucks and it's spreading, because they're relentlessly banging this drum.
The club can't do right for doing wrong and I'm extremely satisfied with their targets as they're a class above what a lot of us can ever remember. If we miss out, I don't care, they clearly have backup plans and they'll continue to make shrewd dealings for the benefit of everyone associated with the club.
The way a lot of people go on about our management team, you'd think that they were a bunch of utter fucking bumbling idiots who didn't know their arses from their elbows, when all evidence proves that do be utter cat shite.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 3, 2015 11:47:10 GMT
And that's with me even forgetting to mention the youngsters and academy improvements we've made.
So many bastard reasons to be cheerful I can't even remember them all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 11:47:39 GMT
Pretty Little Boother has it bob on.
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Post by muglump on Aug 3, 2015 11:48:53 GMT
Friendlies mean fuck all. End of The results mean fuck all, players performances are however a different matter all together, that is what friendlies are for to assess your players. It's for the manager to judge though, all I meant was picking over the bones of a pre season match with a mix and match side is pointless. Also I've noticed before that some players seem to struggle to get properly competitive when there's nothing on it.
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Post by ukcstokie on Aug 3, 2015 11:49:47 GMT
It's a team game and we've only lost two main players. Bego had been dropped anyway for whatever reason and Butland showed nothing but positive potential and no reasons at all for why he should flop. Huth, as much as I was pissed off at his signing for Leicester, has been little more than a bit part player for so long that we simply don't rely on him any more. I can understand that with Shawcross possibly (and not confirmed yet) for so long we might not be as stong as we like at the back, but we have experienced cover there, and still a whole fucking month of the window to go in case things are looking like a code red situation. Wollscheid hasn't set the world alight but he's getting far too much stick, it's pathetic. Which leaves the N'zonzi departure. Player of the season yeah, but he's one player, and one who pragmatically hasn't been that amazing until the second half of the season just gone. People talk about him as though every result has hinged on him which has been bollocks. We've replaced him with a highly rated youngster with genuine pedigree. I don't get the hysteria that it's only a loan. They can't recall him so we have him for the year, which is the same amount of time we'd have had Nzonzi for. We've strengthened / are strengthening in wide areas with a month left to go. We've strengthened up front with a month left to go. Bojan lacking fitness? He's two fucking months ahead of schedule! We've got most of our business done early as opposed to leaving it to deadline day. This means that our new signings are available and prepared from the off, rather than mid October, despite how they've done in meaningless run-around friendlies. We've come off the back of our best season in decades and have a top class manager who knows what he's doing, has more credit in the bank than any other manager I've known at Stoke, and whose signings thus far have been impeccable. Things are looking in far better shape than the unwarranted mass hysteria on here would suggest. It's coming from three or four loud negative fucks and it's spreading, because they're relentlessly banging this drum.
The club can't do right for doing wrong and I'm extremely satisfied with their targets as they're a class above what a lot of us can ever remember. If we miss out, I don't care, they clearly have backup plans and they'll continue to make shrewd dealings for the benefit of everyone associated with the club. The way a lot of people go on about our management team, you'd think that they were a bunch of utter fucking bumbling idiots who didn't know their arses from their elbows, when all evidence proves that do be utter cat shite. Well said. There's a few who just won't let it go.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 3, 2015 12:07:54 GMT
It's a team game and we've only lost two main players. Bego had been dropped anyway for whatever reason and Butland showed nothing but positive potential and no reasons at all for why he should flop. Huth, as much as I was pissed off at his signing for Leicester, has been little more than a bit part player for so long that we simply don't rely on him any more. I can understand that with Shawcross possibly (and not confirmed yet) for so long we might not be as stong as we like at the back, but we have experienced cover there, and still a whole fucking month of the window to go in case things are looking like a code red situation. Wollscheid hasn't set the world alight but he's getting far too much stick, it's pathetic. Which leaves the N'zonzi departure. Player of the season yeah, but he's one player, and one who pragmatically hasn't been that amazing until the second half of the season just gone. People talk about him as though every result has hinged on him which has been bollocks. We've replaced him with a highly rated youngster with genuine pedigree. I don't get the hysteria that it's only a loan. They can't recall him so we have him for the year, which is the same amount of time we'd have had Nzonzi for. We've strengthened / are strengthening in wide areas with a month left to go. We've strengthened up front with a month left to go. Bojan lacking fitness? He's two fucking months ahead of schedule! We've got most of our business done early as opposed to leaving it to deadline day. This means that our new signings are available and prepared from the off, rather than mid October, despite how they've done in meaningless run-around friendlies. We've come off the back of our best season in decades and have a top class manager who knows what he's doing, has more credit in the bank than any other manager I've known at Stoke, and whose signings thus far have been impeccable. Things are looking in far better shape than the unwarranted mass hysteria on here would suggest. It's coming from three or four loud negative fucks and it's spreading, because they're relentlessly banging this drum. The club can't do right for doing wrong and I'm extremely satisfied with their targets as they're a class above what a lot of us can ever remember. If we miss out, I don't care, they clearly have backup plans and they'll continue to make shrewd dealings for the benefit of everyone associated with the club. The way a lot of people go on about our management team, you'd think that they were a bunch of utter fucking bumbling idiots who didn't know their arses from their elbows, when all evidence proves that do be utter cat shite. Bravo.
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Post by greystokie on Aug 3, 2015 12:15:03 GMT
It's a team game and we've only lost two main players. Bego had been dropped anyway for whatever reason and Butland showed nothing but positive potential and no reasons at all for why he should flop. Huth, as much as I was pissed off at his signing for Leicester, has been little more than a bit part player for so long that we simply don't rely on him any more. I can understand that with Shawcross possibly (and not confirmed yet) for so long we might not be as stong as we like at the back, but we have experienced cover there, and still a whole fucking month of the window to go in case things are looking like a code red situation. Wollscheid hasn't set the world alight but he's getting far too much stick, it's pathetic. Which leaves the N'zonzi departure. Player of the season yeah, but he's one player, and one who pragmatically hasn't been that amazing until the second half of the season just gone. People talk about him as though every result has hinged on him which has been bollocks. We've replaced him with a highly rated youngster with genuine pedigree. I don't get the hysteria that it's only a loan. They can't recall him so we have him for the year, which is the same amount of time we'd have had Nzonzi for. We've strengthened / are strengthening in wide areas with a month left to go. We've strengthened up front with a month left to go. Bojan lacking fitness? He's two fucking months ahead of schedule! We've got most of our business done early as opposed to leaving it to deadline day. This means that our new signings are available and prepared from the off, rather than mid October, despite how they've done in meaningless run-around friendlies. We've come off the back of our best season in decades and have a top class manager who knows what he's doing, has more credit in the bank than any other manager I've known at Stoke, and whose signings thus far have been impeccable. Things are looking in far better shape than the unwarranted mass hysteria on here would suggest. It's coming from three or four loud negative fucks and it's spreading, because they're relentlessly banging this drum. The club can't do right for doing wrong and I'm extremely satisfied with their targets as they're a class above what a lot of us can ever remember. If we miss out, I don't care, they clearly have backup plans and they'll continue to make shrewd dealings for the benefit of everyone associated with the club. The way a lot of people go on about our management team, you'd think that they were a bunch of utter fucking bumbling idiots who didn't know their arses from their elbows, when all evidence proves that do be utter cat shite. A bit of sanity amid much ridiculous hysteria. Well put PLB Plb.
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Post by silverdollar on Aug 3, 2015 19:04:46 GMT
This pre season has genuinely been concerning and thrown up issues. I'm not in the half empty 'we'll get relegated 'camp nor am I a happy clapper who thinks it's heresy to criticise. The issues are; 1)The loss of Nzonzi and no replacement.Van Ginkel isn't it. 2)Bojan's lack of fitness. 3)The Shawcross back injury and Wollscheid as a replacement. 4)A new young goalkeeper who please God IS good enough.And I accept Given is there if he isn't. 5)No Yarmolenko/Shaquiri type pace (as yet). 6)No obvious settled first team pattern or structure. You can probably add to those but I think they're the main ones. Personally I think they are pretty fundamental and I'm sure even MH will be concerned with a few days to go before Liverpool and I'm a huge MH fan. I have swung from huge optimism to questioning.The new era was looking so good. Football as we all know can kick you in the teeth quickly and I wonder if these fundamentals are not addressed if it will. 1. Yes Nzonzi was our best player and he has gone. Get over it. Very unfair of you to have already made your mind up about Van Ginkel. I have to say that NZonzi didn't like to break sweat pre-season. 2. Instead of worrying about Bojan's lack of fitness you should be congratulating him on his professional determination to get so far so soon after a soul destroying injury! Get real! 3. We did without Shawcross last season and got by! He is not a god! Yes I think we need another centre half but I refuse to slate Wollsheid. He will improve a great deal this season. 4. Butland is one of the best young keepers in the World. He will make great strides this year and it is great that we have an excellent keeper in Given to push him all the way as well as a great prospect in Haugard. What you worrying about? 5. We already have excellent pace in the offensive line up and we are still pursuing a top notch signing! 6. You mean you want Mark Hughes to text all the Premier League teams with his thoughts and plans before the season starts. We are talking about a top half Premier team here. Do you seriously think that at this point in the season that Hughes and his coaches have not thought and dealt with shape, pattern and team. I seriously think that you are wasting your life worrying for no reason. Wait till the first twelve games have been played. I think you will find that once again Stoke City will be impressing us again with their progress!
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Post by Bowyer83 on Aug 3, 2015 19:09:11 GMT
Can we change the thread title to Suicide Squad?
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 3, 2015 19:14:09 GMT
Well that shut them up, well done pretty little boother!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 19:16:13 GMT
It's a team game and we've only lost two main players. Bego had been dropped anyway for whatever reason and Butland showed nothing but positive potential and no reasons at all for why he should flop. Huth, as much as I was pissed off at his signing for Leicester, has been little more than a bit part player for so long that we simply don't rely on him any more. I can understand that with Shawcross possibly (and not confirmed yet) for so long we might not be as stong as we like at the back, but we have experienced cover there, and still a whole fucking month of the window to go in case things are looking like a code red situation. Wollscheid hasn't set the world alight but he's getting far too much stick, it's pathetic. Which leaves the N'zonzi departure. Player of the season yeah, but he's one player, and one who pragmatically hasn't been that amazing until the second half of the season just gone. People talk about him as though every result has hinged on him which has been bollocks. We've replaced him with a highly rated youngster with genuine pedigree. I don't get the hysteria that it's only a loan. They can't recall him so we have him for the year, which is the same amount of time we'd have had Nzonzi for. We've strengthened / are strengthening in wide areas with a month left to go. We've strengthened up front with a month left to go. Bojan lacking fitness? He's two fucking months ahead of schedule! We've got most of our business done early as opposed to leaving it to deadline day. This means that our new signings are available and prepared from the off, rather than mid October, despite how they've done in meaningless run-around friendlies. We've come off the back of our best season in decades and have a top class manager who knows what he's doing, has more credit in the bank than any other manager I've known at Stoke, and whose signings thus far have been impeccable. Things are looking in far better shape than the unwarranted mass hysteria on here would suggest. It's coming from three or four loud negative fucks and it's spreading, because they're relentlessly banging this drum. The club can't do right for doing wrong and I'm extremely satisfied with their targets as they're a class above what a lot of us can ever remember. If we miss out, I don't care, they clearly have backup plans and they'll continue to make shrewd dealings for the benefit of everyone associated with the club. The way a lot of people go on about our management team, you'd think that they were a bunch of utter fucking bumbling idiots who didn't know their arses from their elbows, when all evidence proves that do be utter cat shite. I think this is what is known in the trade as a '6'. Good shot, sir.
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Post by Pirate on Aug 3, 2015 19:44:17 GMT
Can we change the thread title to Suicide Squad? Yep & anchor it so all the ridiculously over the top doom mongers can come & moan away to each other on one thread instead of every thread. I typed that whilst " happy clapping " to
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 20:51:07 GMT
It's a team game and we've only lost two main players. Bego had been dropped anyway for whatever reason and Butland showed nothing but positive potential and no reasons at all for why he should flop. Huth, as much as I was pissed off at his signing for Leicester, has been little more than a bit part player for so long that we simply don't rely on him any more. I can understand that with Shawcross possibly (and not confirmed yet) for so long we might not be as stong as we like at the back, but we have experienced cover there, and still a whole fucking month of the window to go in case things are looking like a code red situation. Wollscheid hasn't set the world alight but he's getting far too much stick, it's pathetic. Which leaves the N'zonzi departure. Player of the season yeah, but he's one player, and one who pragmatically hasn't been that amazing until the second half of the season just gone. People talk about him as though every result has hinged on him which has been bollocks. We've replaced him with a highly rated youngster with genuine pedigree. I don't get the hysteria that it's only a loan. They can't recall him so we have him for the year, which is the same amount of time we'd have had Nzonzi for. We've strengthened / are strengthening in wide areas with a month left to go. We've strengthened up front with a month left to go. Bojan lacking fitness? He's two fucking months ahead of schedule! We've got most of our business done early as opposed to leaving it to deadline day. This means that our new signings are available and prepared from the off, rather than mid October, despite how they've done in meaningless run-around friendlies. We've come off the back of our best season in decades and have a top class manager who knows what he's doing, has more credit in the bank than any other manager I've known at Stoke, and whose signings thus far have been impeccable. Things are looking in far better shape than the unwarranted mass hysteria on here would suggest. It's coming from three or four loud negative fucks and it's spreading, because they're relentlessly banging this drum. The club can't do right for doing wrong and I'm extremely satisfied with their targets as they're a class above what a lot of us can ever remember. If we miss out, I don't care, they clearly have backup plans and they'll continue to make shrewd dealings for the benefit of everyone associated with the club. The way a lot of people go on about our management team, you'd think that they were a bunch of utter fucking bumbling idiots who didn't know their arses from their elbows, when all evidence proves that do be utter cat shite. Can someone stick this post at the top of the board and force everyone to read it before making a post? Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2015 21:02:27 GMT
It's a team game and we've only lost two main players. Bego had been dropped anyway for whatever reason and Butland showed nothing but positive potential and no reasons at all for why he should flop. Huth, as much as I was pissed off at his signing for Leicester, has been little more than a bit part player for so long that we simply don't rely on him any more. I can understand that with Shawcross possibly (and not confirmed yet) for so long we might not be as stong as we like at the back, but we have experienced cover there, and still a whole fucking month of the window to go in case things are looking like a code red situation. Wollscheid hasn't set the world alight but he's getting far too much stick, it's pathetic. Which leaves the N'zonzi departure. Player of the season yeah, but he's one player, and one who pragmatically hasn't been that amazing until the second half of the season just gone. People talk about him as though every result has hinged on him which has been bollocks. We've replaced him with a highly rated youngster with genuine pedigree. I don't get the hysteria that it's only a loan. They can't recall him so we have him for the year, which is the same amount of time we'd have had Nzonzi for. We've strengthened / are strengthening in wide areas with a month left to go. We've strengthened up front with a month left to go. Bojan lacking fitness? He's two fucking months ahead of schedule! We've got most of our business done early as opposed to leaving it to deadline day. This means that our new signings are available and prepared from the off, rather than mid October, despite how they've done in meaningless run-around friendlies. We've come off the back of our best season in decades and have a top class manager who knows what he's doing, has more credit in the bank than any other manager I've known at Stoke, and whose signings thus far have been impeccable. Things are looking in far better shape than the unwarranted mass hysteria on here would suggest. It's coming from three or four loud negative fucks and it's spreading, because they're relentlessly banging this drum. The club can't do right for doing wrong and I'm extremely satisfied with their targets as they're a class above what a lot of us can ever remember. If we miss out, I don't care, they clearly have backup plans and they'll continue to make shrewd dealings for the benefit of everyone associated with the club. The way a lot of people go on about our management team, you'd think that they were a bunch of utter fucking bumbling idiots who didn't know their arses from their elbows, when all evidence proves that do be utter cat shite. There ya go. Someone with some fucking sense at last. I suggest the OP reads this a few times,has a cold beer and a fag(if he's a smoker),a good slow sensual wank and then fucks off to bed to dream about SCFC 1984-2001.
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 3, 2015 21:02:52 GMT
Great post by prettylittlebrother and sums up my feelings exactly. We have great owners, manager and for that matter supporters, let's enjoy it.
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Post by pottersrule on Aug 3, 2015 21:08:44 GMT
Ok.So what are the reasons for optimism? 1) Bojan is back 2) We coped ok last season when we were forced to be without Shawcross 3) N'zonzi is a good player but he isn't the midfield Jesus that everyone makes him out to be 4) We've got some good youth prospects by the looks of things, Mosely, Moha, Telford, Haugaard and a few others 5) Pretty much every PL team has had a flurry of shit results Pre-season and many haven't played the standard of opposition that we have 6) We've made some good signings and they've only just arrived, just like Bojan they need time to get in to their stride 7) Transfer window is still open and Hughes has made it very clear he's still after that "superstar" signing These are just a few reasons for optimism There is no place for optimism on this forum.Be gone you heretic.
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Post by lordb on Aug 3, 2015 21:09:27 GMT
If I only listened/accepted current media view if our dealings this summer I would be wild with excitement right now. If I only accepted some/many of the views on here I would be suicidal l.
Can't both be right.
One thing I do know is that Bojan is pretty decent,we will be fine at the very least.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 3, 2015 21:17:57 GMT
It's a team game and we've only lost two main players. Bego had been dropped anyway for whatever reason and Butland showed nothing but positive potential and no reasons at all for why he should flop. Huth, as much as I was pissed off at his signing for Leicester, has been little more than a bit part player for so long that we simply don't rely on him any more. I can understand that with Shawcross possibly (and not confirmed yet) for so long we might not be as stong as we like at the back, but we have experienced cover there, and still a whole fucking month of the window to go in case things are looking like a code red situation. Wollscheid hasn't set the world alight but he's getting far too much stick, it's pathetic. Which leaves the N'zonzi departure. Player of the season yeah, but he's one player, and one who pragmatically hasn't been that amazing until the second half of the season just gone. People talk about him as though every result has hinged on him which has been bollocks. We've replaced him with a highly rated youngster with genuine pedigree. I don't get the hysteria that it's only a loan. They can't recall him so we have him for the year, which is the same amount of time we'd have had Nzonzi for. We've strengthened / are strengthening in wide areas with a month left to go. We've strengthened up front with a month left to go. Bojan lacking fitness? He's two fucking months ahead of schedule! We've got most of our business done early as opposed to leaving it to deadline day. This means that our new signings are available and prepared from the off, rather than mid October, despite how they've done in meaningless run-around friendlies. We've come off the back of our best season in decades and have a top class manager who knows what he's doing, has more credit in the bank than any other manager I've known at Stoke, and whose signings thus far have been impeccable. Things are looking in far better shape than the unwarranted mass hysteria on here would suggest. It's coming from three or four loud negative fucks and it's spreading, because they're relentlessly banging this drum. The club can't do right for doing wrong and I'm extremely satisfied with their targets as they're a class above what a lot of us can ever remember. If we miss out, I don't care, they clearly have backup plans and they'll continue to make shrewd dealings for the benefit of everyone associated with the club. The way a lot of people go on about our management team, you'd think that they were a bunch of utter fucking bumbling idiots who didn't know their arses from their elbows, when all evidence proves that do be utter cat shite. Very good so we are really pleased with our progress from last season, I like Hughes he has done miracles on a very limited budget, however impeccable is not how I and many others would view the signings of Bardsley, Sidwell, Wolfy, Johnson and Ireland, we have not replaced Zonz with a like for like player our defence is a shambles, the targets are ace but we do not seem capable of landing any of them so far, the situation with Ryan's injury is the biggest concern especially with the cover we now have in place.
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Post by basingstokie on Aug 3, 2015 21:28:07 GMT
The only minor concern I have is that if Shawcross's back is bad I don't have much confidence in a back 2 from Muniesa, Wolly, Wilson and Geoff.
But I think Hughes has certainly earned the right to be trusted so I ain't too concerned.
Everything is rosy in the SCFC garden :-)
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Aug 3, 2015 22:54:53 GMT
It's a team game and we've only lost two main players. Bego had been dropped anyway for whatever reason and Butland showed nothing but positive potential and no reasons at all for why he should flop. Huth, as much as I was pissed off at his signing for Leicester, has been little more than a bit part player for so long that we simply don't rely on him any more. I can understand that with Shawcross possibly (and not confirmed yet) for so long we might not be as stong as we like at the back, but we have experienced cover there, and still a whole fucking month of the window to go in case things are looking like a code red situation. Wollscheid hasn't set the world alight but he's getting far too much stick, it's pathetic. Which leaves the N'zonzi departure. Player of the season yeah, but he's one player, and one who pragmatically hasn't been that amazing until the second half of the season just gone. People talk about him as though every result has hinged on him which has been bollocks. We've replaced him with a highly rated youngster with genuine pedigree. I don't get the hysteria that it's only a loan. They can't recall him so we have him for the year, which is the same amount of time we'd have had Nzonzi for. We've strengthened / are strengthening in wide areas with a month left to go. We've strengthened up front with a month left to go. Bojan lacking fitness? He's two fucking months ahead of schedule! We've got most of our business done early as opposed to leaving it to deadline day. This means that our new signings are available and prepared from the off, rather than mid October, despite how they've done in meaningless run-around friendlies. We've come off the back of our best season in decades and have a top class manager who knows what he's doing, has more credit in the bank than any other manager I've known at Stoke, and whose signings thus far have been impeccable. Things are looking in far better shape than the unwarranted mass hysteria on here would suggest. It's coming from three or four loud negative fucks and it's spreading, because they're relentlessly banging this drum. The club can't do right for doing wrong and I'm extremely satisfied with their targets as they're a class above what a lot of us can ever remember. If we miss out, I don't care, they clearly have backup plans and they'll continue to make shrewd dealings for the benefit of everyone associated with the club. The way a lot of people go on about our management team, you'd think that they were a bunch of utter fucking bumbling idiots who didn't know their arses from their elbows, when all evidence proves that do be utter cat shite. Very good so we are really pleased with our progress from last season, I like Hughes he has done miracles on a very limited budget, however impeccable is not how I and many others would view the signings of Bardsley, Sidwell, Wolfy, Johnson and Ireland, we have not replaced Zonz with a like for like player our defence is a shambles, the targets are ace but we do not seem capable of landing any of them so far, the situation with Ryan's injury is the biggest concern especially with the cover we now have in place. Ireland's not been a bad player, you haven't seen Johnson properly yet, Wolscheid came in cold halfway through a season and did a reasonable job despite one or two ballsups. That leaves you with Sidwell and Bardsley. Bardsley wasn't as bad as some made out, I can see the logic that we should only sign improvements and he wasn't one on Cameron but he wasn't much worse, so still not a shit signing. I might give you Sidwell but compare that to Bojan, Arnie, Diouf, Muniesa, Pieters, Odemwingie et al and he's done more than enough that to cover the "questionable" (not "shit") signing of Sidwell. And yes, Ryan is injured but again, we have short term cover in place and a month of window if we need a long term replacement. We don't even know that he's going to be out for any concerning amount of time. We did alright for five games in a row without him last time. Defence is a shambles based on what? Pre-season? If you think those games matter I can only assume you started watching football about twelve weeks ago. Man City lost 4-0 the other day, is their defence a shambles?
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Post by ayem on Aug 3, 2015 23:12:57 GMT
So if MVG or Affelay score once every five games from the mid. And they can. What is the loss of nzonzi. Don't get me wrong, I hated to see him leave. But if more scoring is what we brought in, what's the issue? We aren't so binary anymore. Faster movement forward with the ball gives us a different aspect. It's not worse, just different
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