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Post by wagstand on Jul 30, 2015 9:28:40 GMT
Made loads of signings in the window but having recouped £10 million from sale of Nzonzi and Huth we have a negative net spend of around £2 million.. We are in the lowest five spenders in the prem. I'm all for getting bargains when they are available but sooner or later lack of proper investment will catch up with us. It's no point linking us to all these big name players if we can't get these deals over the line. Either we are too unatractive to top players or we are not in the big league when it comes to paying the wages. Still need top winger, 20 goal a season striker and a proper replacement for Huth. Small time thinking regarding ground expansion and also transfer activity.. Come on Coatesy and Scholes, don't sit on your hands when we have the opportunity of a lifetime to get to the next level !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 9:33:06 GMT
Made loads of signings in the window but having recouped £10 million from sale of Nzonzi and Huth we have a negative net spend of around £2 million.. We are in the lowest five spenders in the prem. I'm all for getting bargains when they are available but sooner or later lack of proper investment will catch up with us. It's no point linking us to all these big name players if we can't get these deals over the line. Either we are too unatractive to top players or we are not in the big league when it comes to paying the wages. Still need top winger, 20 goal a season striker and a proper replacement for Huth. Small time thinking regarding ground expansion and also transfer activity.. Come on Coatesy and Scholes, don't sit on your hands when we have the opportunity of a lifetime to get to the next level ! Our strikers are fine.
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Post by block30row19 on Jul 30, 2015 9:34:37 GMT
Fuck Coates and Scholes off. And get you on the job. Sorted !!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 30, 2015 9:37:48 GMT
Ah, I see Benjie's cousin has joined us!
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Post by rovingpotter on Jul 30, 2015 9:37:53 GMT
You forgot the Bego money too!
Oh and no doubt the signing on fees for Johnson, Affelay and the loan fee to Chelsea for van Ginkel. Simple headline fees are not the whole picture.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 9:38:01 GMT
Made loads of signings in the window but having recouped £10 million from sale of Nzonzi and Huth we have a negative net spend of around £2 million.. We are in the lowest five spenders in the prem. I'm all for getting bargains when they are available but sooner or later lack of proper investment will catch up with us. It's no point linking us to all these big name players if we can't get these deals over the line. Either we are too unatractive to top players or we are not in the big league when it comes to paying the wages. Still need top winger, 20 goal a season striker and a proper replacement for Huth. Small time thinking regarding ground expansion and also transfer activity.. Come on Coatesy and Scholes, don't sit on your hands when we have the opportunity of a lifetime to get to the next level ! Yawn.
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Post by slother on Jul 30, 2015 9:39:37 GMT
I love it. We're making the other 19 teams in the league look like fucking amateurs. To achieve what we do with the outlay we do... You could make a good case that we should be given the trophy.
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Post by stokeyhunter on Jul 30, 2015 9:40:31 GMT
Made loads of signings in the window but having recouped £10 million from sale of Nzonzi and Huth we have a negative net spend of around £2 million.. We are in the lowest five spenders in the prem. I'm all for getting bargains when they are available but sooner or later lack of proper investment will catch up with us. It's no point linking us to all these big name players if we can't get these deals over the line. Either we are too unatractive to top players or we are not in the big league when it comes to paying the wages. Still need top winger, 20 goal a season striker and a proper replacement for Huth. Small time thinking regarding ground expansion and also transfer activity.. Come on Coatesy and Scholes, don't sit on your hands when we have the opportunity of a lifetime to get to the next level ! 'A proper replacement for Huth' Whilst i absolutely love Huth and i was disappointed he left i can not help but disagree with this statement. He played around ten matches for the club in two years. We have clearly coped without him over the last two years so we evidently have the depth to survive without him. I feel our strikeforce is fine. We have spent money on Joselu and lets see what he can do. Also for all of his critics last year Diouf scored eleven goals despite being played out of position, on the bench and missing time for the African Cup of Nations. A full stable season and hopefully we will reap the rewards. Lets not forget Bojan is back as well. It really is not the end of the world if we do not piss away money. People said exactly the same last season whilst the likes of Hull were spending huge sums of money....
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Jul 30, 2015 9:41:54 GMT
There is absolutely no chance of us signing a 20 goal a season striker. There are only ever about 3 plays every season who do that.
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Post by Block 22 on Jul 30, 2015 9:54:58 GMT
Made loads of signings in the window but having recouped £10 million from sale of Nzonzi and Huth we have a negative net spend of around £2 million.. We are in the lowest five spenders in the prem. I'm all for getting bargains when they are available but sooner or later lack of proper investment will catch up with us. It's no point linking us to all these big name players if we can't get these deals over the line. Either we are too unatractive to top players or we are not in the big league when it comes to paying the wages. Still need top winger, 20 goal a season striker and a proper replacement for Huth. Small time thinking regarding ground expansion and also transfer activity.. Come on Coatesy and Scholes, don't sit on your hands when we have the opportunity of a lifetime to get to the next level ! We don't need a Striker. We have more than enough Central Defensive options. A top winger would be nice but no need to be panicking, rushing into deals, being held at ransom by agents or paying over the odds for players. We are in a position now with a strong squad and a quality manager, we don't need to do deals that aren't in the best interest of the club.
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Post by ukcstokie on Jul 30, 2015 9:56:46 GMT
There is absolutely no chance of us signing a 20 goal a season striker. There are only ever about 3 plays every season who do that. Absolutely. But saying that, if we play Diouf all season as our striker I suspect he'll get close to 20 goals. So in one sentence the OP says we can't attract the top players, but want us to sign a 20 goals/season striker?
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 30, 2015 9:58:10 GMT
There really are some no nothing's on this board at the moment
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2015 10:02:03 GMT
20 goal a season striker is pie in the sky bullshit.
18m in, 7.5m out.
I do feel if that were to stay the same it's a fair criticism and a real indication of where the club is going and not Scholes' so far hot air. But we shall see!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 10:05:48 GMT
Couldn't agree more. Really need to spend . Freebies can only take you so far. Underwhelming window so far
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 30, 2015 10:06:04 GMT
Time yet bayern
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Post by wagstand on Jul 30, 2015 10:06:47 GMT
Judging by all the knicker wetting and speculation on this site all summer, I'm not the only one who would like to see some big signings made. Are we happy to stay in mid table or do we want to push on? I agree we have done brilliantly to finish where we have without massive outlay, but how long can we carry on doing it ? I think we have weakened the squad and recorded negative investment.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 10:13:34 GMT
While it would be nice to show our intent to play with the big boys, plenty of big money signings simply don't come off. I'd rather we signed 5 £8 million players than one Mesut Ozil or Andy Carroll
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Post by StokeAz on Jul 30, 2015 10:13:37 GMT
Made loads of signings in the window but having recouped £10 million from sale of Nzonzi and Huth we have a negative net spend of around £2 million.. We are in the lowest five spenders in the prem. I'm all for getting bargains when they are available but sooner or later lack of proper investment will catch up with us. It's no point linking us to all these big name players if we can't get these deals over the line. Either we are too unatractive to top players or we are not in the big league when it comes to paying the wages. Still need top winger, 20 goal a season striker and a proper replacement for Huth. Small time thinking regarding ground expansion and also transfer activity.. Come on Coatesy and Scholes, don't sit on your hands when we have the opportunity of a lifetime to get to the next level ! 20 goal a season? Like who? Aguero? Costa? They're the only strikers able to get that figure each year...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2015 10:13:55 GMT
I know hence the "we shall see" bit! It's still frustrating though not seeing him backed like TP used to be. He was given 12-15m a season to spend, I don't think we've even seen an indication we're genuinely willing to do that with Hughes so far.
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Post by StokeAz on Jul 30, 2015 10:14:48 GMT
While it would be nice to show our intent to play with the big boys, plenty of big money signings simply don't come off. I'd rather we signed 5 £8 million players than one Mesut Ozil or Andy Carroll we don't wanna pay out for 1 8m pound player... And I wouldn't want Carroll!
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Post by lordb on Jul 30, 2015 10:19:39 GMT
30 July 2015
we havn't won any games yet either,Hughes out
Wait till window is shut
If the squad isn't good enough then (regardless of how much money spent) then 100% compalin/raise concerns
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 10:20:51 GMT
No surprise that some of the usual suspects have turned up on this thread.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 30, 2015 10:24:10 GMT
30 July 2015 we havn't won any games yet either,Hughes out Wait till window is shut If the squad isn't good enough then (regardless of how much money spent) then 100% compalin/raise concerns Come come, Lordb - I thought you would have realised by now that for many Stokies, it is far more fun to complain about something that hasn't happened yet. After all, if they wait and it never happens, the opportunity to have a good moan about it has been lost for ever!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2015 10:25:31 GMT
It hasn't happened for 2.1 seasons tbf.....
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Post by philb on Jul 30, 2015 10:25:55 GMT
I know hence the "we shall see" bit! It's still frustrating though not seeing him backed like TP used to be. He was given 12-15m a season to spend, I don't think we've even seen an indication we're genuinely willing to do that with Hughes so far. The difference with Pulis spending that money is that we were at a different level then than we are now or are aiming for. We got Crouch and Palacios for big money but they were marquee signings at the time and were quite happy to be playing PL football. To get the players we need to push for top 6-8 now is a lot harder as these players mostly want European football as well.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 30, 2015 10:29:28 GMT
I know hence the "we shall see" bit! It's still frustrating though not seeing him backed like TP used to be. He was given 12-15m a season to spend, I don't think we've even seen an indication we're genuinely willing to do that with Hughes so far. The difference with Pulis spending that money is that we were at a different level then than we are now or are aiming for. We got Crouch and Palacios for big money but they were marquee signings at the time and were quite happy to be playing PL football. To get the players we need to push for top 6-8 now is a lot harder as these players mostly want European football as well. But we're not even spending money on squad players on the whole. And only Joselu comes in at anything over 3m. It just seems strange to me!
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Post by discokaraoke on Jul 30, 2015 10:33:03 GMT
I know hence the "we shall see" bit! It's still frustrating though not seeing him backed like TP used to be. He was given 12-15m a season to spend, I don't think we've even seen an indication we're genuinely willing to do that with Hughes so far. The difference with Pulis spending that money is that we were at a different level then than we are now or are aiming for. We got Crouch and Palacios for big money but they were marquee signings at the time and were quite happy to be playing PL football. To get the players we need to push for top 6-8 now is a lot harder as these players mostly want European football as well. Correct on both accounts.
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Post by philb on Jul 30, 2015 10:38:04 GMT
The difference with Pulis spending that money is that we were at a different level then than we are now or are aiming for. We got Crouch and Palacios for big money but they were marquee signings at the time and were quite happy to be playing PL football. To get the players we need to push for top 6-8 now is a lot harder as these players mostly want European football as well. But we're not even spending money on squad players on the whole. And only Joselu comes in at anything over 3m. It just seems strange to me! Yes but some people are moaning that we've not improved the 1st 11 and got freebies who are just squad players so imagine the uproar if we'd paid millions for them, which incidentally some teams seem to be. Look at Pulis paying £7m for a defender that most haven't heard of!
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 30, 2015 10:40:48 GMT
I know hence the "we shall see" bit! It's still frustrating though not seeing him backed like TP used to be. He was given 12-15m a season to spend, I don't think we've even seen an indication we're genuinely willing to do that with Hughes so far. He being backed. Clearly Given, Afellay, Johnson came because our wages are competitive, Joselu and Van Ginkel will be on serious wages and 3 other signings have been added to the wage bill. We now have 2 teams that are competitive at PL level and we have made significant bids for star names. No evidence he is not being backed or asking for things and being refused, quite the opposite. For example, we currently have 8 front men, Diouf, Crouch, Joselu, Walters, Wingy, Arnie, Afellay and Moha, which is commitment by anyone's standards.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 10:41:02 GMT
If our target is Europa then it's depth of quality that we need and for once I agree with mayf .
2 decent players in every position fighting for the place is what we need.
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