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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:18:28 GMT
I think most can work out for themselves what a shocking piece of business this is, so won't say much else! West Brom to go down this year for me, though I think Pulis will most likely abandon ship before that happens.
Anyway, more importantly, for everyone having a moan about our business so far this summer, have a little think about it. I know who I would rather be in charge of my summer signings. We could still be making ones like this, so stay positive and start getting excited, it's gonna be another entertaining season whatever happens.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:20:58 GMT
He's a decent defender. £8m's worth I'm not sure but he'll strengthen their defence
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Post by Jug Bank Stokie on Jul 28, 2015 11:21:17 GMT
Tony throwing money down the drain. Who'd have thought it?
In all seriousness though, if Berahino goes - they are fucked.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 28, 2015 11:24:12 GMT
I think most can work out for themselves what a shocking piece of business this is, so won't say much else! West Brom to go down this year for me, though I think Pulis will most likely abandon ship before that happens. Anyway, more importantly, for everyone having a moan about our business so far this summer, have a little think about it. I know who I would rather be in charge of my summer signings. Stay positive and start getting excited, it's gonna be another entertaining season whatever happens. Just goes to show how differently we can see things. I think this is a good signing and Pulis has a pretty good track record (with a few exceptions) when it comes to CHs. Despite his (often stated on here) reluctance to give 'youth' a chance he is massively responsible for our current captain's progress (who he signed and played as a teenager) so I wouldn't take too many digs at his judgement in this area of the pitch. £8 Million is too much but, take a look around, young British players are crazily over priced. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:26:13 GMT
Southampton were linked with him only last week weren't they for around £10m?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 28, 2015 11:27:59 GMT
Highly rated I thought?
Certainly targeted by more than one Premier League side this summer and he's a 25 year old international in and English to English transfer
One question.
Chester or Wollscheid?
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Post by holdmedelilah on Jul 28, 2015 11:29:21 GMT
Good player, very effective. I dont think that TP's judgement is suspect but £8m is way too much....even for the 'homegrown' tag.
Good footballer, poor business but who cares... Boing bump
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Post by metalhead on Jul 28, 2015 11:29:22 GMT
8 million is fine until you realize he's 26 :\ Lot of money for a player who isn't outstanding but is probably at the peak of his game
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jul 28, 2015 11:29:45 GMT
Highly rated I thought? Certainly targeted by more than one Premier League side this summer and he's a 25 year old international in and English to English transfer One question. Chester or Wollscheid?
Wollscheid for five-and-a-half million quid less, thanks.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 28, 2015 11:35:32 GMT
Highly rated I thought? Certainly targeted by more than one Premier League side this summer and he's a 25 year old international in and English to English transfer One question. Chester or Wollscheid? World shakes in shock and surprise to see you attacking almost everything your club does when it comes to transfer dealings and defending to the hilt everything Pulis farts in the direction of! TPFC number one fan.  I'm sure you can find some excuse for it but I know what transfer dealings I prefer. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 28, 2015 11:36:18 GMT
Highly rated I thought? Certainly targeted by more than one Premier League side this summer and he's a 25 year old international in and English to English transfer One question. Chester or Wollscheid? See this is what I don't get after your speach yesterday. Every comment about Tone (or even west brom oddly) has to result in a swipe about Stoke from your good self. You can't have your cake and eat it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:36:43 GMT
Highly rated I thought? Certainly targeted by more than one Premier League side this summer and he's a 25 year old international in and English to English transfer One question. Chester or Wollscheid? Please tell me that is a joke? Highly rated at the age of 26? He has just been relegated in one of the worse defences in the league, part of a back 5 as well! Say what you will about Wolly, I know there isn't much point defending him on this board but I'm sure he put better performances in last season and like someone has already pointed out, did not cost £8 million! |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 28, 2015 11:37:30 GMT
Highly rated I thought? Certainly targeted by more than one Premier League side this summer and he's a 25 year old international in and English to English transfer One question. Chester or Wollscheid?
Wollscheid for five-and-a-half million quid less, thanks.
Doesn't really matter what the price tag is Gary. If you have a choice of two players and one is much better than the other then you'd surely take him even if he costs you good money. I'm not suggesting that he IS far better than Wolly (who I think has been judged far too quickly) but just that the financial argument means little if you can actually afford to pay for the better player. |
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Post by tcdobinghoff on Jul 28, 2015 11:40:50 GMT
He's a decent defender. £8m's worth I'm not sure but he'll strengthen their defence Who knows what players are worth these days but Hull fans will be gutted to lose him and may well be disappointed at £8m. What price a fully fit Shawcross ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:41:16 GMT
Highly rated I thought? Certainly targeted by more than one Premier League side this summer and he's a 25 year old international in and English to English transfer One question. Chester or Wollscheid? Wollscheid |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:41:55 GMT
I think most can work out for themselves what a shocking piece of business this is, so won't say much else! West Brom to go down this year for me, though I think Pulis will most likely abandon ship before that happens. Anyway, more importantly, for everyone having a moan about our business so far this summer, have a little think about it. I know who I would rather be in charge of my summer signings. Stay positive and start getting excited, it's gonna be another entertaining season whatever happens. Just goes to show how differently we can see things. I think this is a good signing and Pulis has a pretty good track record (with a few exceptions) when it comes to CHs. Despite his (often stated on here) reluctance to give 'youth' a chance he is massively responsible for our current captain's progress (who he signed and played as a teenager) so I wouldn't take too many digs at his judgement in this area of the pitch. £8 Million is too much but, take a look around, young British players are crazily over priced. He was a massive hindrance on Ryan Shawcross' career, as recently hinted by the player himself. Stopped him from showing that he was actually a decent footballer he is whilst his defensive attributes would have taken care of themselves, they are what he is naturally fantastic at. Anyway, I didn't start the thread for another Pulis tactics discussion, I wanted to point out that this is an awful piece of business, represents no real value for money and our signings under the current management are far more astute. p.s. wouldn't say 26 is particularly young |
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Jul 28, 2015 11:42:14 GMT
Highly rated I thought? Certainly targeted by more than one Premier League side this summer and he's a 25 year old international in and English to English transfer One question. Chester or Wollscheid? Wollscheid |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:42:45 GMT
Wollscheid for five-and-a-half million quid less, thanks.
Doesn't really matter what the price tag is Gary. If you have a choice of two players and one is much better than the other then you'd surely take him even if he costs you good money. I'm not suggesting that he IS far better than Wolly (who I think has been judged far too quickly) but just that the financial argument means little if you can actually afford to pay for the better player. It does when Wollschied is better than him. |
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Post by stokebloke on Jul 28, 2015 11:43:02 GMT
TP will never get relegated.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 28, 2015 11:43:00 GMT
Highly rated I thought? Certainly targeted by more than one Premier League side this summer and he's a 25 year old international in and English to English transfer One question. Chester or Wollscheid? Please tell me that is a joke? Highly rated at the age of 26? He has just been relegated in one of the worse defences in the league, part of a back 5 as well! Say what you will about Wolly, I know there isn't much point defending him on this board but I'm sure he put better performances in last season and like someone has already pointed out, did not cost £8 million! Didn't we pay £6 Million (more in real terms than this deal) for an defender of similar age that had just been RELEGATED with Middlesbrough? I believe it was the same manager. |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jul 28, 2015 11:45:48 GMT
Please tell me that is a joke? Highly rated at the age of 26? He has just been relegated in one of the worse defences in the league, part of a back 5 as well! Say what you will about Wolly, I know there isn't much point defending him on this board but I'm sure he put better performances in last season and like someone has already pointed out, did not cost £8 million! Didn't we pay £6 Million (more in real terms than this deal) for an defender of similar age that had just been RELEGATED with Middlesbrough? I believe it was the same manager. Very interesting Doz but totally irrelevant.  |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jul 28, 2015 11:47:49 GMT
Doesn't really matter what the price tag is Gary. If you have a choice of two players and one is much better than the other then you'd surely take him even if he costs you good money. I'm not suggesting that he IS far better than Wolly (who I think has been judged far too quickly) but just that the financial argument means little if you can actually afford to pay for the better player. It does when Wollschied is better than him. That's why I made the point about not actually comparing their abilities, just that the financial argument is fairly irrelevant IF you believe the player you're shelling out on is much better. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:48:44 GMT
Good signing.......never understand why fans think that money matters ......that's the owners worry and costs you nothing
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Jul 28, 2015 11:48:49 GMT
They way some people are acting like this is a superb deal.
Laughable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:49:44 GMT
Please tell me that is a joke? Highly rated at the age of 26? He has just been relegated in one of the worse defences in the league, part of a back 5 as well! Say what you will about Wolly, I know there isn't much point defending him on this board but I'm sure he put better performances in last season and like someone has already pointed out, did not cost £8 million! Didn't we pay £6 Million (more in real terms than this deal) for an defender of similar age that had just been RELEGATED with Middlesbrough? I believe it was the same manager. Come on mate, there is a bit of a difference between Robert Huth, a Premier League winner and international for zee Germans and James Chester! And you say Pulis' judgement is solid in this area, off the top of my head for every Huth and Faye in the Premier League era there was a Sonko, Collins, Woodgate and Upson. The pedigree of the latter two meant they were good signings on paper, didnt take a footballing genius to know they were passed it. Our transfer policy is so much better now, words can't really do it justice. I think this could be the year Pulis gets found out. |
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Post by feynmann2 on Jul 28, 2015 11:51:10 GMT
Isn't a better debate Chester or Caulker?....assuming we may really be in for Caulker of course
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:53:33 GMT
Isn't a better debate Chester or Caulker?....assuming we may really be in for Caulker of course I wouldn't pay more than £8 million for Caulker in all honesty, obviously would have to in the current market but I would say he is the better player still. |
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Jul 28, 2015 11:53:35 GMT
Good signing.......never understand why fans think that money matters ......that's the owners worry and costs you nothing Until the season tickets go up. I'm on about west brom here not us |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:55:10 GMT
Okay here is another one, as the aim of the original post was to compare transfer policy. Muniesa for free or Chester for £8 million?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:55:35 GMT
Good signing.......never understand why fans think that money matters ......that's the owners worry and costs you nothing Because for most clubs, the amount they have to spend is not finite. So if your club has just spunked a load of money on someone you think is utter garbage (and I'm not talking about this deal, just generally), then there may not be much left to buy a player or two who can actually improve your club - which is what every supporter wants. Anyway, I'm old-school. I'm from a time when the club didn't have a pot to piss-in. Spending more than £250k still seems like alien territory to me.  |
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