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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 11:45:50 GMT
What Nzonzi had, and what I think we are still to replace, is presence. A player with the physical and footballing ability to impose himself on the game and dictate. Bit of ball winning, fair share of headers, good distribution, good engine, physically strong. Any team with a soft centre will be found out sooner or later and I hope its a position we are still looking to strengthen. 100% agree
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Post by themistocles on Aug 2, 2015 12:17:43 GMT
The same posters screaming that we should be spending money will be the first ones moaning about it if the transfer gamble doesn't come off. Money doesn't guarantee anything, the past 4 windows have shown that. We've signed 7 free transfers / cheap options this window, how many ware starters ? The squad is full of average free transfers ( sidwell Ireland,) we have yet to strengthen the right back position in 2 years through signing cheap options ( Johnson, Beardsley). You can't sign the "next level" players wanyamma, clasie, bony, dembele on free transfers. If money isn't available why has TS been preaching it all last season.
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Post by themistocles on Aug 2, 2015 12:24:30 GMT
The same posters screaming that we should be spending money will be the first ones moaning about it if the transfer gamble doesn't come off. Money doesn't guarantee anything, the past 4 windows have shown that. Second thoughts, I'm disappointed in myself for replying to you,your obviously after a bite, don't bother replying.
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 2, 2015 15:29:24 GMT
The same posters screaming that we should be spending money will be the first ones moaning about it if the transfer gamble doesn't come off. Money doesn't guarantee anything, the past 4 windows have shown that. We've signed 7 free transfers / cheap options this window, how many ware starters ? The squad is full of average free transfers ( sidwell Ireland,) we have yet to strengthen the right back position in 2 years through signing cheap options ( Johnson, Beardsley). You can't sign the "next level" players wanyamma, clasie, bony, dembele on free transfers. If money isn't available why has TS been preaching it all last season. What a load of knicker wetting bullshit (not surprisingly). It's funny how this squad of average freebies has got us 2 9th place finishes. It's a team game where you need a SQUAD, look at the injury problems we had last year. Which players have we signed that we categorically don't need? You seem to keep banging on about the same average freebies, yet negate to mention bojan, muniesa, affelay, diouf, odemwingie, I wonder why that is? We have had bids accepted that would smash our transfer record and make the players the highest payed stoke players ever. We can't do no more than wait and hope. If you're not happy with this process is pick another club. Could you also tell me what guarantees you get when you spend mega money on players? Oh yeah that's right, you can't. Anyway I'm not conversing with you again until you tell me what name you used to posts under.
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Post by themistocles on Aug 2, 2015 15:49:57 GMT
We've signed 7 free transfers / cheap options this window, how many ware starters ? The squad is full of average free transfers ( sidwell Ireland,) we have yet to strengthen the right back position in 2 years through signing cheap options ( Johnson, Beardsley). You can't sign the "next level" players wanyamma, clasie, bony, dembele on free transfers. If money isn't available why has TS been preaching it all last season. What a load of knicker wetting bullshit (not surprisingly). It's funny how this squad of average freebies has got us 2 9th place finishes. It's a team game where you need a SQUAD, look at the injury problems we had last year. Which players have we signed that we categorically don't need? You seem to keep banging on about the same average freebies, yet negate to mention bojan, muniesa, affelay, diouf, odemwingie, I wonder why that is? We have had bids accepted that would smash our transfer record and make the players the highest payed stoke players ever. We can't do no more than wait and hope. If you're not happy with this process is pick another club. Could you also tell me what guarantees you get when you spend mega money on players? Oh yeah that's right, you can't. Anyway I'm not conversing with you again until you tell me what name you used to posts under. I told you not to reply... This argument happens on a daily basis. You can call me knicker wetting whatever all you like you naive boring nob
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 2, 2015 15:51:10 GMT
What a load of knicker wetting bullshit (not surprisingly). It's funny how this squad of average freebies has got us 2 9th place finishes. It's a team game where you need a SQUAD, look at the injury problems we had last year. Which players have we signed that we categorically don't need? You seem to keep banging on about the same average freebies, yet negate to mention bojan, muniesa, affelay, diouf, odemwingie, I wonder why that is? We have had bids accepted that would smash our transfer record and make the players the highest payed stoke players ever. We can't do no more than wait and hope. If you're not happy with this process is pick another club. Could you also tell me what guarantees you get when you spend mega money on players? Oh yeah that's right, you can't. Anyway I'm not conversing with you again until you tell me what name you used to posts under. I told you not to reply... This argument happens on a daily basis. You can call me knicker wetting whatever all you like you naive boring nob So no comment on what name you used to post under then? No, thought not.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 2, 2015 16:01:30 GMT
We've signed 7 free transfers / cheap options this window, how many ware starters ? The squad is full of average free transfers ( sidwell Ireland,) we have yet to strengthen the right back position in 2 years through signing cheap options ( Johnson, Beardsley). You can't sign the "next level" players wanyamma, clasie, bony, dembele on free transfers. If money isn't available why has TS been preaching it all last season. What a load of knicker wetting bullshit (not surprisingly). It's funny how this squad of average freebies has got us 2 9th place finishes. It's a team game where you need a SQUAD, look at the injury problems we had last year. Which players have we signed that we categorically don't need? You seem to keep banging on about the same average freebies, yet negate to mention bojan, muniesa, affelay, diouf, odemwingie, I wonder why that is? We have had bids accepted that would smash our transfer record and make the players the highest payed stoke players ever. We can't do no more than wait and hope. If you're not happy with this process is pick another club. Could you also tell me what guarantees you get when you spend mega money on players? Oh yeah that's right, you can't. Anyway I'm not conversing with you again until you tell me what name you used to posts under. I will tell you what happens when you spend mega money on the right players, you win things like titles cups and things like Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea etc unless you have a pretty wank manager of course who spunks millions on the wrong players, it is not the fault of the present manager who it would appear has had very little to spend, he has made mistakes but all managers do however he can not keep pulling rabbits out of hats, Johnson was/is a very disappointing signing in the context or what we achieved last season.
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Post by themistocles on Aug 2, 2015 16:06:49 GMT
I told you not to reply... This argument happens on a daily basis. You can call me knicker wetting whatever all you like you naive boring nob So no comment on what name you used to post under then? No, thought not. That are you on about ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 16:09:23 GMT
What a load of knicker wetting bullshit (not surprisingly). It's funny how this squad of average freebies has got us 2 9th place finishes. It's a team game where you need a SQUAD, look at the injury problems we had last year. Which players have we signed that we categorically don't need? You seem to keep banging on about the same average freebies, yet negate to mention bojan, muniesa, affelay, diouf, odemwingie, I wonder why that is? We have had bids accepted that would smash our transfer record and make the players the highest payed stoke players ever. We can't do no more than wait and hope. If you're not happy with this process is pick another club. Could you also tell me what guarantees you get when you spend mega money on players? Oh yeah that's right, you can't. Anyway I'm not conversing with you again until you tell me what name you used to posts under. I will tell you what happens when you spend mega money on the right players, you win things like titles cups and things like Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea etc unless you have a pretty wank manager of course who spunks millions on the wrong players, it is not the fault of the present manager who it would appear has had very little to spend, he has made mistakes but all managers do however he can not keep pulling rabbits out of hats, Johnson was/is a very disappointing signing in the context or what we achieved last season.  Or you chase the dream like Leeds and go bust! And forgive me, where has Coates or the club say we haven't got money to spend?
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 2, 2015 16:10:28 GMT
What a load of knicker wetting bullshit (not surprisingly). It's funny how this squad of average freebies has got us 2 9th place finishes. It's a team game where you need a SQUAD, look at the injury problems we had last year. Which players have we signed that we categorically don't need? You seem to keep banging on about the same average freebies, yet negate to mention bojan, muniesa, affelay, diouf, odemwingie, I wonder why that is? We have had bids accepted that would smash our transfer record and make the players the highest payed stoke players ever. We can't do no more than wait and hope. If you're not happy with this process is pick another club. Could you also tell me what guarantees you get when you spend mega money on players? Oh yeah that's right, you can't. Anyway I'm not conversing with you again until you tell me what name you used to posts under. I will tell you what happens when you spend mega money on the right players, you win things like titles cups and things like Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea etc unless you have a pretty wank manager of course who spunks millions on the wrong players, it is not the fault of the present manager who it would appear has had very little to spend, he has made mistakes but all managers do however he can not keep pulling rabbits out of hats, Johnson was/is a very disappointing signing in the context or what we achieved last season.  There is absolute zero facts in that statement, just hyperbole.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 2, 2015 16:25:10 GMT
I will tell you what happens when you spend mega money on the right players, you win things like titles cups and things like Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea etc unless you have a pretty wank manager of course who spunks millions on the wrong players, it is not the fault of the present manager who it would appear has had very little to spend, he has made mistakes but all managers do however he can not keep pulling rabbits out of hats, Johnson was/is a very disappointing signing in the context or what we achieved last season. There is absolute zero facts in that statement, just hyperbole. Is that a fact then.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 2, 2015 16:26:49 GMT
I will tell you what happens when you spend mega money on the right players, you win things like titles cups and things like Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea etc unless you have a pretty wank manager of course who spunks millions on the wrong players, it is not the fault of the present manager who it would appear has had very little to spend, he has made mistakes but all managers do however he can not keep pulling rabbits out of hats, Johnson was/is a very disappointing signing in the context or what we achieved last season. Or you chase the dream like Leeds and go bust! And forgive me, where has Coates or the club say we haven't got money to spend? Are you saying it is Hughes's fault we are going for cheap options then ?, see Wolly is staying true to the erm promise he showed last season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 17:19:16 GMT
Or you chase the dream like Leeds and go bust! And forgive me, where has Coates or the club say we haven't got money to spend? Are you saying it is Hughes's fault we are going for cheap options then ?, see Wolly is staying true to the erm promise he showed last season. No, for every Wollschied there's a Bojan, but you can choose to ignore those facts if you like. Unless Harry Symers has been to see me and my mind is playing tricks, we have made bids for Konoplianka, Shaqiri and Yarmalenko. Do you honestly think we have done this without a pot to piss in, and just prayed to God they all said no so we didn't have to pull out and make the club look like a right bunch of pricks? Stop living by an agenda, it's getting tiresome.
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 2, 2015 17:29:45 GMT
We only tried either for unrealistic targets or for freebies. So many players out there we could have tried for !!!
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 2, 2015 17:33:26 GMT
We only tried either for unrealistic targets or for freebies. So many players out there we could have tried for !!! Send your cv in then, here's to champions league next season. Who needs Mark Hughes.
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Post by Stokeontrent on Aug 2, 2015 17:38:56 GMT
Freebies will only do you good for so long as above we have to many now; johnson, ireland, bardsley, sidwell, given to name a few
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 2, 2015 17:39:41 GMT
We only tried either for unrealistic targets or for freebies. So many players out there we could have tried for !!! Send your cv in then, here's to champions league next season. Who needs Mark Hughes. always the same vomit coming out of your cesspit mouth
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 2, 2015 17:46:57 GMT
Send your cv in then, here's to champions league next season. Who needs Mark Hughes. always the same vomit coming out of your cesspit mouth I don't know how you fucking dare, I've never seen you type anything positive about Stoke City. Did you send it in?
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 2, 2015 17:49:22 GMT
always the same vomit coming out of your cesspit mouth I don't know how you fucking dare, I've never seen you type anything positive about Stoke City. Did you send it in? Making more friends i see
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 2, 2015 17:51:57 GMT
I don't know how you fucking dare, I've never seen you type anything positive about Stoke City. Did you send it in? Making more friends i see Yet another excellent contribution rolls. I bet your loving all this negativity aren't you, like a pig in shit.
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 2, 2015 17:54:51 GMT
Making more friends i see Yet another excellent contribution rolls. I bet your loving all this negativity aren't you, like a pig in shit. What i love is people have finally sussed you out for what you are
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 2, 2015 18:01:26 GMT
Yet another excellent contribution rolls. I bet your loving all this negativity aren't you, like a pig in shit. What i love is people have finally sussed you out for what you are Really? Or is it more the company you keep?
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 2, 2015 18:09:23 GMT
always the same vomit coming out of your cesspit mouth I don't know how you fucking dare, I've never seen you type anything positive about Stoke City. Did you send it in? Of course I have dimwit, but that doesn't mean I cannot criticize because I want my team to become better and stronger you 're always trying to play the hero on this MB, a sort of self-styled enforcer, who do YOU think you are ???
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 2, 2015 18:11:34 GMT
I don't know how you fucking dare, I've never seen you type anything positive about Stoke City. Did you send it in? Of course I have dimwit, but that doesn't mean I cannot criticize because I want my team to become better and stronger you 're always trying to play the hero on this MB, a sort of self-styled enforcer, who do YOU think you are ??? I'm Exactly that fucknugget. Isn't it about time you went back supporting whatever team you did before? Take the fish botherer and dogroll with you?
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 2, 2015 18:13:38 GMT
Of course I have dimwit, but that doesn't mean I cannot criticize because I want my team to become better and stronger you 're always trying to play the hero on this MB, a sort of self-styled enforcer, who do YOU think you are ??? I'm Exactly that fucknugget. Isn't it about time you went back supporting whatever team you did before? Take the fish botherer and dogroll with you? You haven't got a fuckin clue
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2015 18:15:43 GMT
I don't know how you fucking dare, I've never seen you type anything positive about Stoke City. Did you send it in? Of course I have dimwit, but that doesn't mean I cannot criticize because I want my team to become better and stronger you 're always trying to play the hero on this MB, a sort of self-styled enforcer, who do YOU think you are ??? He's Marcus Hall...the punisher.
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 2, 2015 18:18:12 GMT
I've supported stoke city since I was 7 years old. All my friends in malta supported Liverpool, man utd, arsenal, juvenile, inter, milan. My beloved father whom I adored was a Tottenham Hotspur supporter. And yet I supported no team but stoke for the last 40 years despite the fact that I am NOT from stoke and could have supported any team I wanted to. So there you have it you stinking rat. Now go back to your miserable existence and try not to spend your dole money all at once
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Post by Kjones9 on Aug 2, 2015 18:18:42 GMT
I'm Exactly that fucknugget. Isn't it about time you went back supporting whatever team you did before? Take the fish botherer and dogroll with you? You haven't got a fuckin clue About what? Malteaser being a negative player hating cock smoker, or you being a negative, doom mongering, agenda driven tit?
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Post by malteser68 on Aug 2, 2015 18:24:43 GMT
You haven't got a fuckin clue About what? Malteaser being a negative player hating cock smoker, or you being a negative, doom mongering, agenda driven tit? The absolute absence if any matter between your eyes is proved beyond any reasonable doubt by your very username retard
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Aug 2, 2015 18:34:29 GMT
About what? Malteaser being a negative player hating cock smoker, or you being a negative, doom mongering, agenda driven tit? The absolute absence if any matter between your eyes is proved beyond any reasonable doubt by your very username retard Mate don't rise to the moron's bait its not worth it,he's the biggest WUM on the board and has no knowledge of Stoke City just a Johnny come lately.
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