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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2015 10:27:34 GMT
Well he has named 3 U21 centre halves for the Wrexham game - maybe they are crossing their fingers one of them is ok? The defence is by far the weakest part of our U-21 side.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 22, 2015 10:38:53 GMT
The loss of Shawcross wiould be a big blow , easily our best proper defender and at a tme where we will be getting used to a change of keeper and the loss of Nzonzi.
The others are all ok with their strengths and weaknesses for me Ryan and Muni are the best pair Wilson is good but always got an error in him and Cameron has done nothing to show me he can cope as a centre half in the hurly burly of our league . Wooly is a good all round player apart from his chronic lack of pace which teams will target the more they get to know him .
If there is any risk of Shawcross missing many games I think we are short but there are not too may great centre halves around which is why Terry is still the best at 35 and and a decent prosepct like Stones is so expensive , hopefully Ryan will be ok for the proper games , no need to risk him at this stage if he is right for Cologne that will do
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Post by Sfance on Jul 22, 2015 10:45:43 GMT
So many managers on here. Hughes mustn't know which way to turn, poor fellow.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2015 10:51:43 GMT
So many managers on here. Hughes mustn't know which way to turn, poor fellow. Yes I often remember you saying 'well the manager knows best, so Ill shut up' in the past
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 22, 2015 10:51:41 GMT
So many managers on here. Hughes mustn't know which way to turn, poor fellow. Simple question would you rather have Huth or Woolschied as cover.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2015 11:00:56 GMT
So many managers on here. Hughes mustn't know which way to turn, poor fellow. Yes I often remember you saying 'well the manager knows best, so Ill shut up' in the past
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Post by smokeontrent on Jul 22, 2015 11:19:29 GMT
Cameron has done nothing to show me he can cope as a centre half in the hurly burly of our league Cameron was absolutely superb against Everton in Singapore.
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Post by thestatusquo on Jul 22, 2015 12:17:05 GMT
I'm not sure what Cameron's best position is. He seems to get back into the team and plays well for a few games then his form dips and he's out again. I don't think his positional sense is great which is really important for a CB plus he really is not that great in the air.
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 22, 2015 12:26:48 GMT
Cameron looked well up for it in preseason. I wouldn't complain if he started ahead of Wolly at CB.
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Post by Sfance on Jul 22, 2015 12:43:41 GMT
I never thought of Pulis as a "manager." If I had to call him something positive I'd say he reminded me of a dimwitted sergeant major.
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Post by ryanbox360 on Jul 22, 2015 13:08:39 GMT
After having a read through this "enlightening" thread, I'm thrilled to learn that as a collective group of supporters, we know better than the manager, his coaching team, his scouting team, transfer deals, and most obviously, the medical team.
Yes, we should consider surgery for Ryan, because we supporters know best.
And the manger of a football club making a decision to SELL a player and replace him with someone he thinks is a better option??! What is this madness!!!
I think I shall go to sleep for a few weeks and await official news, rather than the highly accurate tosh that gets bounded about on here by armchair managers.
Everyone knows best don't they. Jaysus!
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 22, 2015 13:15:48 GMT
After having a read through this "enlightening" thread, I'm thrilled to learn that as a collective group of supporters, we know better than the manager, his coaching team, his scouting team, transfer deals, and most obviously, the medical team. Yes, we should consider surgery for Ryan, because we supporters know best. And the manger of a football club making a decision to SELL a player and replace him with someone he thinks is a better option??! What is this madness!!! I think I shall go to sleep for a few weeks and await official news, rather than the highly accurate tosh that gets bounded about on here by armchair managers. Everyone knows best don't they. Jaysus! Thing is Ryan, it's an internet football DISCUSSION forum. Yer know, like radio and TV football phone-in's, where fans of football are expected to express, erm ... THEIR opinions about their team. It's pretty much the whole POINT of posting on this forum.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 22, 2015 13:18:37 GMT
After having a read through this "enlightening" thread, I'm thrilled to learn that as a collective group of supporters, we know better than the manager, his coaching team, his scouting team, transfer deals, and most obviously, the medical team. Yes, we should consider surgery for Ryan, because we supporters know best. And the manger of a football club making a decision to SELL a player and replace him with someone he thinks is a better option??! What is this madness!!! I think I shall go to sleep for a few weeks and await official news, rather than the highly accurate tosh that gets bounded about on here by armchair managers. Everyone knows best don't they. Jaysus! Thing is Ryan, it's an internet football DISCUSSION forum. Yer know, like radio and TV football phone-in's, where fans of football are expected to express, erm ... THEIR opinions about their team. It's pretty much the whole POINT of posting on this forum. That and it gives the Samaritans a well deserved break.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 13:34:56 GMT
After having a read through this "enlightening" thread, I'm thrilled to learn that as a collective group of supporters, we know better than the manager, his coaching team, his scouting team, transfer deals, and most obviously, the medical team. Yes, we should consider surgery for Ryan, because we supporters know best. And the manger of a football club making a decision to SELL a player and replace him with someone he thinks is a better option??! What is this madness!!! I think I shall go to sleep for a few weeks and await official news, rather than the highly accurate tosh that gets bounded about on here by armchair managers. Everyone knows best don't they. Jaysus! What should we talk about? How to do a drop stitch?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2015 13:38:55 GMT
Thing is Ryan, it's an internet football DISCUSSION forum. Yer know, like radio and TV football phone-in's, where fans of football are expected to express, erm ... THEIR opinions about their team. It's pretty much the whole POINT of posting on this forum. That and it gives the Samaritans a well deserved break. Or in your case the Nurses.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 22, 2015 13:40:45 GMT
That and it gives the Samaritans a well deserved break. Or in your case the Nurses. I know, I'm sick of asking them to change your bed pan.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jul 22, 2015 13:47:23 GMT
After having a read through this "enlightening" thread, I'm thrilled to learn that as a collective group of supporters, we know better than the manager, his coaching team, his scouting team, transfer deals, and most obviously, the medical team. Yes, we should consider surgery for Ryan, because we supporters know best. And the manger of a football club making a decision to SELL a player and replace him with someone he thinks is a better option??! What is this madness!!! I think I shall go to sleep for a few weeks and await official news, rather than the highly accurate tosh that gets bounded about on here by armchair managers. Everyone knows best don't they. Jaysus! Thing is Ryan, it's an internet football DISCUSSION forum. Yer know, like radio and TV football phone-in's, where fans of football are expected to express, erm ... THEIR opinions about their team. It's pretty much the whole POINT of posting on this forum. It seems to be a point often overlooked on here these days. I'm generally very glass half full since Hughes took over and have agreed with nearly everything he's done since arriving but woe betide me if I say something which doesn't equate to happy clapping.
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Post by pottersrule on Jul 22, 2015 13:56:01 GMT
So many managers on here. Hughes mustn't know which way to turn, poor fellow. Simple question would you rather have Huth or Woolschied as cover. That wasn't an option apparently,so it makes the question kind of irrelevant.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 22, 2015 14:18:26 GMT
Simple question would you rather have Huth or Woolschied as cover. That wasn't an option apparently,so it makes the question kind of irrelevant. As Huth was our player when Wolfy was signed it sort of was an option that the manager had , by the way which would you prefer ?
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 22, 2015 14:21:20 GMT
Simple question would you rather have Huth or Woolschied as cover. That wasn't an option apparently,so it makes the question kind of irrelevant. I think that this smiley is relevant.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 14:24:51 GMT
Shawcross had back problems last season. Did the medical staff think rest would fix him ? If so,have they dropped a bollock ? We saw how his form suffered when wasn't 100 % fit last season Looks like he won't be 100% going into this season,combined with a lack of games in pre-season it has to be a big worry
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Post by kustokie on Jul 22, 2015 14:45:19 GMT
I never thought of Pulis as a "manager." If I had to call him something positive I'd say he reminded me of a dimwitted sergeant major. Took some balls to say this. However, I tend to agree!
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 22, 2015 14:54:34 GMT
Why the Hell did we let Huth go? The decision looks more stupid by the minute. With doubts over Ryans back, it was and remains a stupid decision. Probably because in a team wanting to play the ball from the back, Huth doesn't fit. Add that to the fact Huth's turning looked very slow when he played for Leicester and that he was playing in a back five, hard to see how he would enhance the current Stoke team. Huth pre-injury of three years ago is a different story but that's not the player now. We have moved on.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2015 14:56:29 GMT
I never thought of Pulis as a "manager." If I had to call him something positive I'd say he reminded me of a dimwitted sergeant major. Took years of crystal meth taking to say this. However, I tend to agree!
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Post by ryanbox360 on Jul 22, 2015 15:40:11 GMT
After having a read through this "enlightening" thread, I'm thrilled to learn that as a collective group of supporters, we know better than the manager, his coaching team, his scouting team, transfer deals, and most obviously, the medical team. Yes, we should consider surgery for Ryan, because we supporters know best. And the manger of a football club making a decision to SELL a player and replace him with someone he thinks is a better option??! What is this madness!!! I think I shall go to sleep for a few weeks and await official news, rather than the highly accurate tosh that gets bounded about on here by armchair managers. Everyone knows best don't they. Jaysus! Thing is Ryan, it's an internet football DISCUSSION forum. Yer know, like radio and TV football phone-in's, where fans of football are expected to express, erm ... THEIR opinions about their team. It's pretty much the whole POINT of posting on this forum. Ahh, an OPINION you say. What, just like my post was mine? In my opinion, we should sign Messi and Ronaldo. If we don't, I'd say the club lacks ambition. You see that there, that's an opinion. It's also a load of shite....
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Post by jameselfletcher on Jul 22, 2015 15:51:17 GMT
Ok so it seems that the majority of people here want another cb, having not given Wolly a chance- if that is the case could someone please name viable options that would be both cheap and worthwhile. Cannot see us paying much for a cb if we do sign one and there doesn't seem to be much on the market right now.
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Post by philm87 on Jul 22, 2015 16:05:27 GMT
Really worried about this one. Surprising how well we coped without him last season. I don't think we will manage quite so well if this is going to be a more permanent thing.
We have taken him for granted a bit I think. If Shawcross is going to be in and out with injury, never regaining full fitness, then we will struggle to stand still never mind push forward.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 22, 2015 16:17:18 GMT
So called my cousin in Stafford who used to play with Chris the teams physio back in the 80's at the Vale. Apparently Ryan is getting injections in his back for sciatica flare ups... They come and go it seems so it's perplexing. He's on rest. Could be precautionary, or could get worse... No surgery needed at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 16:30:02 GMT
So called my cousin in Stafford who used to play with Chris the teams physio back in the 80's at the Vale. Apparently Ryan is getting injections in his back for sciatica flare ups... They come and go it seems so it's perplexing. He's on rest. Could be precautionary, or could get worse... No surgery needed at the moment. This is what I'm hinting at above. If he's having injections he'll be getting a lot of secondary nerve pain somewhere, depending on which disc it is. Also depending on hiw much disc material is bulging out. Each course of injections he has will be roughly two weeks out. That's what happened to me when I had them. The injections *can* sometimes only last 18 months in some cases.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 22, 2015 16:32:28 GMT
Lots of questions need asking, I don't think the answers would be too pretty!
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