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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 16:26:06 GMT
Been saying all along since his last back prob that will be a regular thing now......very rarely clear up. Also been saying our defence is not prepared for a season with the crocks we have, yet all we constantly hear about is attacking players WALOFB .!!! ryan will always have this prob now, back probs are rarely cleared up.....muniesa= in and out with niggles.....Wilson =ditto......woolly = ditto.......ekka = niggley ditto's not eff'ing bollocks, just facts me owd furry eared cuntrag of a mate
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 14, 2015 16:28:29 GMT
ryan will always have this prob now.....muniesa= in and out with niggles.....Wilson =ditto......woolly = ditto.......ekka = niggley ditto's not eff'ing bollocks, just facts me owd furry eared cuntrag of a mate Maybe so but I don't recall you flagging up this problem and as you know I troll you 24/7
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2015 16:33:05 GMT
ryan will always have this prob now.....muniesa= in and out with niggles.....Wilson =ditto......woolly = ditto.......ekka = niggley ditto's not eff'ing bollocks, just facts me owd furry eared cuntrag of a mate Maybe so but I don't recall you flagging up this problem and as you know I troll you 24/7 I posted something similar the other day, and I've been telling people about it since ryan was injured last season......I didn't tell you as you're deaf as fuck
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Post by Okie Stokie. on Jul 14, 2015 16:37:05 GMT
I have it on very good authority ( Wink Wink ) that it's the bit of the spine that connects from top the of the shoulders to the bottom of the head.
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Post by jstoke7 on Jul 14, 2015 16:44:57 GMT
If we had kept Huth surely we wouldn't of signed Wolly? Regardless of what you think of their ability, we'd still have the same numbers of defenders and still be in the same situation. There's no way Huth would of stayed if he's been told he's 5th in the pecking order. Really 5th choice CB no wonder we sold him. Well by the looks of it Muni, Shawcross, Wilson and Wolly are all ahead of him in the pecking order, not saying I agree with it, just seems that's the way it is.
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Post by discokaraoke on Jul 14, 2015 19:53:47 GMT
The manager takes a precaution to make sure they're back stronger for the PL Season and this messageboard explodes. Good Move MH. I see where you are coming from, let's hope that is the case, selling Huth and his subsequent replacement does not look very clever at the moment. Huth fucking Huth, ffs he's basically been out of the side for the last TWO seasons! Two 9th placed finishes and plus goal difference last season. I can be cynical as well if you want, we nearly got relegated the last time he played a full season. But that's bollox as well! Have faith, and trust our manager, after all he ain't doing a bad job is he? Rant over. Have a nice day.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 14, 2015 20:53:37 GMT
I see where you are coming from, let's hope that is the case, selling Huth and his subsequent replacement does not look very clever at the moment. Huth fucking Huth, ffs he's basically been out of the side for the last TWO seasons! Two 9th placed finishes and plus goal difference last season. I can be cynical as well if you want, we nearly got relegated the last time he played a full season. But that's bollox as well! Have faith, and trust our manager, after all he ain't doing a bad job is he? Rant over. Have a nice day. Out of our side but no Leicester's, I imagine he played as many if not more games for Leicester as Wolly played for us, I have never said Hughes has done a bad job he has done an amazing job given the lack of funding, however this is a mistake that hopefully will not come back to kick us right in the bollox as you put it. Have a nice day
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 15, 2015 1:21:17 GMT
Put Muniesa on Lukaku and let Wollscheid or Wilson/ Cameron cover the rest... well be fine.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 15, 2015 3:49:10 GMT
I can personally attest to the fact that back problem can be with you for ever. I ruptured two disks in my lower back 40 years ago. It will be fine for 6 months then I'll throw it out doing almost nothing. When it goes into spasm it hurts like hell and I can hardly move.
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Post by meirparkpotter on Jul 15, 2015 4:22:09 GMT
I can personally attest to the fact that back problem can be with you for ever. I ruptured two disks in my lower back 40 years ago. It will be fine for 6 months then I'll throw it out doing almost nothing. When it goes into spasm it hurts like hell and I can hardly move. Same, the sciatica that accompanies my herniated discs can be a right pain in the arse too... Literally!
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Post by jeycov on Jul 15, 2015 7:11:13 GMT
If he needs an op then surely it would happen asap. MH didn't sound too concerned.. Everton can steer clear of any (renewed ?) interest in him too
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 17, 2015 8:27:51 GMT
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Post by Gods on Jul 17, 2015 8:36:29 GMT
Does make you wish the management team hadn't fallen out with Robert Huth
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Post by kustokie on Jul 17, 2015 12:31:06 GMT
I am not one to panic, but this is a bit worrying.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 12:33:04 GMT
That was worth the 28 hour round trip on a plane, Clive. God help his back after 14 hours on one!
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 22, 2015 6:46:53 GMT
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Post by werrington on Jul 22, 2015 6:59:39 GMT
A bit misleading now the thread title has been edited
Muniesa is precautionary and 2 days after a 12 hour overnight long haul flight ( not including transfers ) players are not going to be risked especially at a Wrexham
Cmon lets have a bit of perspective eh
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Post by Davef on Jul 22, 2015 7:07:43 GMT
A bit misleading now the thread title has been edited Muniesa is precautionary and 2 days after a 12 hour overnight long haul flight ( not including transfers ) players are not going to be risked especially at a Wrexham Cmon lets have a bit of perspective eh Suits the argument though.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 22, 2015 7:09:56 GMT
Yeah don't agree with the thread title change.
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Post by AlanHansen on Jul 22, 2015 7:12:51 GMT
Plenty of cover the bigger risk is the 6 months it could take Bojan to get up to speed which with SN gone exposes the lack of midfield creativity which is chronic Now that's what you call Benji Plenty of cover my arse. If there's one signing we need to make before the window shuts then it's a decent centre half. Shawcross at best looks like he's going to miss a good few games this season, God forbid he's a long term causality. Muniesa is an option playing alongside Shawcross. Possibly the best one, but he's injury prone and I don't think really up to partnering our other options. I still have nightmares about him and Wolsheid A at Blackburn in the cup. Wolsheid. He's shown glimpses of being a decent player.but I don't think he's up to the level. See above re Blackburn, not to mention his other two total nightmare games. We should never have taken the option to sign him term. Wilson. Tried and tested and possibly our best other centre half (never thought I'd be saying that). However you can usually rely on him for at least stupid error a game and at this level it's from time to time going to cost you he game. Cameron. Saw him play at centre half at Spurs away and saw enough there to tell me he'll never be a Premiership centre half as long as he's got a hole in his arse. And don't give me he played well there in a pre season friendly in Singapore. Teixeira. Who knows, but would you want to go the season with him at centre half? No, neither would I. Come on Hughes, sort it out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2015 7:12:58 GMT
This makes letting Robert Huth go look even more ridiculous. Why the fuck take him on a twenty eight hour round flight when he's got a dodgy back. I know from experience once it starts to play up your back is never the same.
Hughes has been fantastic for Stoke but the decision to let The Big German go will bite him on the arse.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Jul 22, 2015 7:22:25 GMT
A bit misleading now the thread title has been edited Muniesa is precautionary and 2 days after a 12 hour overnight long haul flight ( not including transfers ) players are not going to be risked especially at a Wrexham Cmon lets have a bit of perspective eh Suits the argument though. Not my argument. I personally do not have a big issue with either Wolly, Geoffrey or Wilson filling in as they can all do a role Indeed I thought our captain, when he came back looked way off Our defensive record, despite feeling a tad fragile at times, coupled with our more attacking style really speaks for itself last season I have no agenda. However, Ryan is a big concern and sadly Muni is plagued by hamstrings and general tightness in the legs as a result of serious injury to the point that even he states he needs to train differently and requires constant help - no agenda, just facts
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Post by Davef on Jul 22, 2015 7:28:29 GMT
Suits the argument though. Not my argument. I personally do not have a big issue with either Wolly, Geoffrey or Wilson filling in as they can all do a role Indeed I thought our captain, when he came back looked way off Our defensive record, despite feeling a tad fragile at times, coupled with our more attacking style really speaks for itself last season I have no agenda. However, Ryan is a big concern and sadly Muni is plagued by hamstrings and general tightness in the legs as a result of serious injury to the point that even he states he needs to train differently and requires constant help - no agenda, just facts Well you don't know if Muniesa has been left out of tonight's squad because of injury, so perhaps it would be a good idea to change the thread title.
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Post by iamcliveclarke on Jul 22, 2015 7:34:30 GMT
I bet you everyone will be ready come the Liverpool game, calm the fuck down
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Post by iamcliveclarke on Jul 22, 2015 7:38:09 GMT
I bet you everyone will be FIT AND ready come the Liverpool game, calm the fuck down
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 22, 2015 7:48:22 GMT
Plenty of cover the bigger risk is the 6 months it could take Bojan to get up to speed which with SN gone exposes the lack of midfield creativity which is chronic Now that's what you call Benji Plenty of cover my arse. If there's one signing we need to make before the window shuts then it's a decent centre half. Shawcross at best looks like he's going to miss a good few games this season, God forbid he's a long term causality. Muniesa is an option playing alongside Shawcross. Possibly the best one, but he's injury prone and I don't think really up to partnering our other options. I still have nightmares about him and Wolsheid A at Blackburn in the cup. Wolsheid. He's shown glimpses of being a decent player.but I don't think he's up to the level. See above re Blackburn, not to mention his other two total nightmare games. We should never have taken the option to sign him term. Wilson. Tried and tested and possibly our best other centre half (never thought I'd be saying that). However you can usually rely on him for at least stupid error a game and at this level it's from time to time going to cost you he game. Cameron. Saw him play at centre half at Spurs away and saw enough there to tell me he'll never be a Premiership centre half as long as he's got a hole in his arse. And don't give me he played well there in a pre season friendly in Singapore. Teixeira. Who knows, but would you want to go the season with him at centre half? No, neither would I. Come on Hughes, sort it out. Would you be saying that we need another centre back if Huth was still here? The reality of the situation is that we DO have enough cover, the question is, do we have the RIGHT cover? To all intents and purpose Hughes has swapped Huth for Wollscheid, he clearly thinks, all things being equal, that Wollscheid is a BETTER option in his squad than Huth is. Whether Hughes has called this one right or not remains to be seen but we can't have an infinite number of centre backs on the books, simply because we as supporters don't have faith in his judgement. Hughes has nailed his colours to the mast on this one and we have to hope he's called it right.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2015 7:51:33 GMT
A bit misleading now the thread title has been edited Muniesa is precautionary and 2 days after a 12 hour overnight long haul flight ( not including transfers ) players are not going to be risked especially at a Wrexham Cmon lets have a bit of perspective eh Suits the argument though. The argument that our best centre halves have been injury prone this last 12 months? That"'s not argument, it's fact. The argument is whether the next two cabs on the rank are anywhere near good enough for a run in the side.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 22, 2015 7:51:54 GMT
I can't see the link or the detail behind it, only the hysteria that is following.
Let me add to that hysteria. Muniesa seemed to be struggling in the Singapore game and seemed to be limping as he left the field.
I would never have let Huth go but we've been without him for the best part of 2 seasons and improved each year so it really isn't that big a deal.
Any thought of losing Ryan for lengthy periods would be a worry but it is way too early to hit panic mode just yet.
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Post by AlanHansen on Jul 22, 2015 7:57:02 GMT
I'd have kept Huth. I'm not the manager though and don't have the detail he has.
Cameron isn't really a CH, in fact he just isn't one.
Let's forget Tex.
Wilson is a CH/LB, not forgetting that he's also "supposed" to be a midfielder.
Wolsheid is the managers choice CH I think. And it's actually his natural position.
Muni is a CH/LB.
So when you look at it properly there are options, but they're just that.
Wolsheid is the only other specialist CH. God help us if Shawcross is out for a prolonged period.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 22, 2015 8:00:27 GMT
We need another Centre Half if we're serious about progressing. Too many doubts about Muniesa playing four games in a row. Too many doubts about Woolschied, Wilson and Cameron playing over an extended period and doubts beginning to creep in over Shawcross' health.
It's an absolute dogs dinner in waiting.
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