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Post by superbojan on Jul 6, 2015 11:44:18 GMT
Don't get me wrong I am all up for a massive signing to make the world take notice of Stoke City F.C ( I mean imagine the potential revenue we might get offered) But I feel that if we spent all these summer months chasing Shaqiri for example, we might be missing the bigger picture. For a start, to me RB is by far our weak point. Yes we do need a winger ideally but the amount of goals we gave away from the right side was shocking. Geoff is a good player either as a back up centre half or in defensive midfield. I don't like him as a RB he seems to drift out of position to often and is a expert at giving away cheap free kicks. Bardsley is just rubbish at defending, decent at getting forward but struggles in one on one situations. Surely focusing on this position is a must rather than chasing players that are looking for excuses not to join us.
What I am basically saying is I would rather have a good RB and a winger rather than just a great winger. Ambition is all well and good but I think we would finish higher this season with a good RB and a good winger rather than just a great winger.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 6, 2015 11:46:44 GMT
Where is your evidence that we are not planning to bring in a right back?
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Post by nott1 on Jul 6, 2015 11:48:09 GMT
Nothing wrong with ambition!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 11:48:53 GMT
Don't get me wrong I am all up for a massive signing to make the world take notice of Stoke City F.C ( I mean imagine the potential revenue we might get offered) But I feel that if we spent all these summer months chasing Shaqiri for example, we might be missing the bigger picture. For a start, to me RB is by far our weak point. Yes we do need a winger ideally but the amount of goals we gave away from the right side was shocking. Geoff is a good player either as a back up centre half or in defensive midfield. I don't like him as a RB he seems to drift out of position to often and is a expert at giving away cheap free kicks. Bardsley is just rubbish at defending, decent at getting forward but struggles in one on one situations. Surely focusing on this position is a must rather than chasing players that are looking for excuses not to join us.
What I am basically saying is I would rather have a good RB and a winger rather than just a great winger. Ambition is all well and good but I think we would finish higher this season with a good RB and a good winger rather than just a great winger.
How do you know we aren't chasing any players in other positions? Do you seriously think that we will be chasing Shakiri and nobody else? |
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Post by superbojan on Jul 6, 2015 11:51:03 GMT
I worry we are wasting time instead of looking for the best players that we could attain yes. I am all up for signing him but I think get it done before Singapore or move on.
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Post by superbojan on Jul 6, 2015 11:52:52 GMT
Where is your evidence that we are not planning to bring in a right back? Never said we were not signing one. Just implying that maybe spending more time focusing on a position that needs addressing urgently is more important than chasing uninterested players. |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 6, 2015 11:53:15 GMT
Don't get me wrong I am all up for a massive signing to make the world take notice of Stoke City F.C ( I mean imagine the potential revenue we might get offered) But I feel that if we spent all these summer months chasing Shaqiri for example, we might be missing the bigger picture. For a start, to me RB is by far our weak point. Yes we do need a winger ideally but the amount of goals we gave away from the right side was shocking. Geoff is a good player either as a back up centre half or in defensive midfield. I don't like him as a RB he seems to drift out of position to often and is a expert at giving away cheap free kicks. Bardsley is just rubbish at defending, decent at getting forward but struggles in one on one situations. Surely focusing on this position is a must rather than chasing players that are looking for excuses not to join us.
What I am basically saying is I would rather have a good RB and a winger rather than just a great winger. Ambition is all well and good but I think we would finish higher this season with a good RB and a good winger rather than just a great winger.
An interesting post where you've asked a frankly ridiculous question and then gone on to recycle an old argument as if it's original. Must try harder. |
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Post by thebet365 on Jul 6, 2015 11:58:06 GMT
I worry we are wasting time instead of looking for the best players that we could attain yes. I am all up for signing him but I think get it done before Singapore or move on. We are not camped out at Inter Milans ground waiting for an answer. We can chase more than 1 player at a time. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 6, 2015 12:00:58 GMT
Don't get me wrong I am all up for a massive signing to make the world take notice of Stoke City F.C ( I mean imagine the potential revenue we might get offered) But I feel that if we spent all these summer months chasing Shaqiri for example, we might be missing the bigger picture. For a start, to me RB is by far our weak point. Yes we do need a winger ideally but the amount of goals we gave away from the right side was shocking. Geoff is a good player either as a back up centre half or in defensive midfield. I don't like him as a RB he seems to drift out of position to often and is a expert at giving away cheap free kicks. Bardsley is just rubbish at defending, decent at getting forward but struggles in one on one situations. Surely focusing on this position is a must rather than chasing players that are looking for excuses not to join us.
What I am basically saying is I would rather have a good RB and a winger rather than just a great winger. Ambition is all well and good but I think we would finish higher this season with a good RB and a good winger rather than just a great winger.
An interesting post where you've asked a frankly ridiculous question and then gone on to recycle an old argument as if it's original. Must try harder. Although I don't agree with him, that's perhaps a bit unfair; a post count of seven hardly implies he's on here all the time to read every single discussion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 12:05:01 GMT
Do people think we only have 1 member of staff when it comes to scouting and recruitment etc.?
Just because the papers are focussing on the shaqiri/kono deal over the last few weeks in no way implies that's all people are doing behind the scenes! It's not as if when you look at a player you therefore have to stop looking at everyone else until that deal is sorted/binned.
Bizarre really,some people seem to think we're a small business holding with only 3 members of staff
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Post by superbojan on Jul 6, 2015 12:14:15 GMT
If people disagree with me that's fine. Not everyone is going to think the same. I am not about to spit dummy out over it like others who I won't mention.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 12:15:54 GMT
An interesting post where you've asked a frankly ridiculous question and then gone on to recycle an old argument as if it's original. Must try harder. Although I don't agree with him, that's perhaps a bit unfair; a post count of seven hardly implies he's on here all the time to read every single discussion. A new name an old head? |
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Post by superbojan on Jul 6, 2015 12:16:50 GMT
Also I hope you are right about us looking at other players but all seems very quiet.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 6, 2015 12:17:26 GMT
Do people think we only have 1 member of staff when it comes to scouting and recruitment etc.? Just because the papers are focussing on the shaqiri/kono deal over the last few weeks in no way implies that's all people are doing behind the scenes! It's not as if when you look at a player you therefore have to stop looking at everyone else until that deal is sorted/binned. Bizarre really,some people seem to think we're a small business holding with only 3 members of staff Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me one bit. But no, obviously we have many irons in the fire... surely? ....we do don't we? |
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Post by unknown182 on Jul 6, 2015 12:18:12 GMT
The best thing so far about this window is the investment into academy players. We're not putting all of our eggs in one basket.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 6, 2015 12:23:05 GMT
Although I don't agree with him, that's perhaps a bit unfair; a post count of seven hardly implies he's on here all the time to read every single discussion. A new name an old head? Who do you reckon? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 12:25:19 GMT
We are a great club, well run with money we should be ambitious. As for "star" players being out of reach you have to start somewhere is not Crouch a "star" ? Classic line from Field of Dreams " Build it and they will come "
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 12:42:25 GMT
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Post by kustokie on Jul 6, 2015 12:44:19 GMT
In a word "no". The signings and re-signings have been under the radar. The high-profle deals haven't panned out.
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Post by ruts66 on Jul 6, 2015 13:40:56 GMT
Also I hope you are right about us looking at other players but all seems very quiet. Quiet is probably a good thing where a club of our stature is concerned. I predict one or two quality signings will come out of nowhere and surprise us all... |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 6, 2015 13:51:54 GMT
Honestly prefer we go after the big guns and fail.
Compared to stocking the squad with more Phil Bardsleys and Steve Sidwells.
We can get the C-list players any time during August when things get more desperate. Its just disappointing we cant get one big signing through the gate now.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 6, 2015 13:56:01 GMT
Where is your evidence that we are not planning to bring in a right back? Never said we were not signing one. Just implying that maybe spending more time focusing on a position that needs addressing urgently is more important than chasing uninterested players. We already tried to sign a rb before the wingers we've been linked with, and I'm sure we are still trying for another, theres more than a couple of hours in a day, plenty of time yet. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 6, 2015 13:57:45 GMT
Also I hope you are right about us looking at other players but all seems very quiet. Good its better that way. |
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Post by foster on Jul 6, 2015 13:58:21 GMT
As a great man once said, 'It is better to try and fail, than to never try at all'.
(Foster - 2015)
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jul 6, 2015 13:59:01 GMT
Also I hope you are right about us looking at other players but all seems very quiet. The CLUB (as opposed to the media and the massed ranks of tweeters) have rarely said much about transfers until they happen. About the only comment they made about Konoplyanka was weeks after the media reported our interest, when Coates said it was taking along time to get resolved. Similarly the transfer of Joselu came pretty much out of the blue as far as statements from the club were concerned. And possibly the most significant signing since we got promoted, the signing of Bojan, was never discussed by anyone (club or media) until Hughes was spotted talking to him in a Cheshire hotel. Where Stoke are concerned "very quiet" is the way they prefer things to happen. Not their fault if the media frenzy erupts from time to time. We shouldall know by now that newspapers depend for sales upon column inches and headlines - whether accurate or not.  |
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Post by foster on Jul 6, 2015 14:04:43 GMT
Also I hope you are right about us looking at other players but all seems very quiet. The CLUB (as opposed to the media and the massed ranks of tweeters) have rarely said much about transfers until they happen. About the he only comment they made about Konoplyanka was weeks after the media reported our interest, when Coates said it was taking along time to get resolved. Similarly the transfer of Joselu came pretty much out of the blue as far as statements from the club were concerned. And possibly the most significant signing since we got promoted, the signing of Bojan, was never discussed by anyone (club or media) until Hughes was spotted talking to him in a Cheshire hotel. Where Stoke are concerned "very quiet" is the way they prefer things to happen. Not their fault if the media frenzy erupts from time to time. We shouldall know by now that newspapers depend for sales upon column inches and headlines - whether accurate or not. You said 'Column Inches'. *snigger |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 6, 2015 14:07:36 GMT
As a great man once said, 'It is better to try and fail, than to never try at all'. (Foster - 2015) "If at first you don't succeed, give up." "You tried your best and failed miserably. The lesson is, never try." "If something's hard to do, its not worth doing" H.Simpson 1999 |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 6, 2015 14:13:43 GMT
As a great man once said, 'It is better to try and fail, than to never try at all'. (Foster - 2015) I thought that was Danny Collins 2008 myself |
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Jul 6, 2015 14:48:53 GMT
If we weren't in the market for these type of players, people would be saying we aren't ambitious enough.
Can't win.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 6, 2015 15:04:30 GMT
We once put a bid in for Clive Mendonca, £700,000 if memory serves. We always make high profile bids for player we can never get! It's the Coates way!  |
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