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Post by liam007 on Jul 3, 2015 19:43:05 GMT
Top ten finishes the last two seasons,squad improving. We are some way of Champions League qualification,touch wood not a relegation side so surely the Cups have to be a major aim.It might cost us 5-10 points and a lower league position but i would settle for that for a trophy.Personally getting old now,to young to be at the 1972 League Final and had great days out at the Autoglass Finals.I know it's not easy but as a Stoke City fan that's surely the next dream.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 19:51:52 GMT
The loss of a world class keeper and midfield maestro in one go could set this target back slightly  |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 3, 2015 20:03:52 GMT
If he stays for another 5 years, we will win a cup and have a top 6 finish under mark Hughes guidance.
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Post by stokemanusa on Jul 3, 2015 20:06:17 GMT
If he stays for another 5 years, we will win a cup and have a top 6 finish under mark Hughes guidance. That's my consensus. We only just missed out on the FA cup but with an even better squad we could aim for several and hopefully land one. |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Jul 3, 2015 20:09:19 GMT
If he stays for another 5 years, we will win a cup and have a top 6 finish under mark Hughes guidance. Agree with that dave. A Leicester fan at work yesterday tried to tell me that Hughes was going to be their next manager and it had come from a very good source  |
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Post by petemac on Jul 3, 2015 20:23:11 GMT
If he stays for another 5 years, we will win a cup and have a top 6 finish under mark Hughes guidance. Yes please |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 20:55:08 GMT
These Leicester fans really are a jumped up lot aren't they?
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Post by pumper on Jul 3, 2015 21:27:45 GMT
If he stays for another 5 years, we will win a cup and have a top 6 finish under mark Hughes guidance. Yes please a top 6 finish is really hard, a cup run and maybe a win is great...but rather cynically, i'd prefer a top 5/6 over a cup tbh. |
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Jul 3, 2015 21:31:54 GMT
Due to the state of football nowadays, a top 6 finish would easily be a better achievement than a cup win.
Not that I'd mind a cup win..
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Post by pumper on Jul 3, 2015 21:40:25 GMT
Due to the state of football nowadays, a top 6 finish would easily be a better achievement than a cup win. Not that I'd mind a cup win.. its true, no matter how much the BBC tried to revive the "old girl" last season, it's now more about the league finish than it ever was before. there's only room for one cup today - and that's now the cl. its the only cup worth winning my word, the league cup really was a very big deal back in 1972...the fa cup was even more titanic. how things have changed |
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Post by discokaraoke on Jul 3, 2015 22:03:07 GMT
a top 6 finish is really hard, a cup run and maybe a win is great...but rather cynically, i'd prefer a top 5/6 over a cup tbh. WTF? You don't win anything coming 5th or 6th. We still talk about the 1972 cup win now! A cup win would outway even coming 2nd in the prem! |
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Post by pumper on Jul 3, 2015 22:10:17 GMT
a top 6 finish is really hard, a cup run and maybe a win is great...but rather cynically, i'd prefer a top 5/6 over a cup tbh. WTF? You don't win anything coming 5th or 6th. We still talk about the 1972 cup win now! A cup win would outway even coming 2nd in the prem! i think we have a difference of opinion on what is the more significant achievement. last season we saw chelsea knocked out by.....who was it? domestic cups are a sideshow these days, that's why its free to air ont BBC it costs £400 a year to watch pl. a club that finishes 5/6 earns almost £100mill. i dont get yer argument tbh |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 3, 2015 22:15:59 GMT
Disagree, the league is more important and imo is better for attracting players and obviously more money, I'm not saying don't take the cups seriously but the longevity is with the league.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Jul 3, 2015 22:22:32 GMT
WTF? You don't win anything coming 5th or 6th. We still talk about the 1972 cup win now! A cup win would outway even coming 2nd in the prem! i think we have a difference of opinion on what is the more significant achievement. last season we saw chelsea knocked out by.....who was it? domestic cups are a sideshow these days, that's why its free to air ont BBC it costs £400 a year to watch pl. a club that finishes 5/6 earns almost £100mill. i dont get yer argument tbh It's not about the bigger achievement it's about history and those special moments and days in history. I love this current team but won't be telling my grandchildren about the year we finished 6th in the Premier League. I'll be telling them about when we won the cup. The proof is that the team who won in 1972 were well down the league. But we still love them today. Sent from my GT-I8190N using proboards |
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Post by spitshaw on Jul 3, 2015 22:24:27 GMT
could have won the FA last year. grr
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Jul 3, 2015 22:28:27 GMT
I'm free in May.
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Post by pumper on Jul 3, 2015 22:33:00 GMT
i think we have a difference of opinion on what is the more significant achievement. last season we saw chelsea knocked out by.....who was it? domestic cups are a sideshow these days, that's why its free to air ont BBC it costs £400 a year to watch pl. a club that finishes 5/6 earns almost £100mill. i dont get yer argument tbh It's not about the bigger achievement it's about history and those special moments and days in history. I love this current team but won't be telling my grandchildren about the year we finished 6th in the Premier League. I'll be telling them about when we won the cup. The proof is that the team who won in 1972 were well down the league. But we still love them today. Sent from my GT-I8190N using proboards thats my point. it was different in 1972. and your grandchildren wont be telling their kids who won the league cup in 2014, no way |
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Post by discokaraoke on Jul 3, 2015 22:33:24 GMT
WTF? You don't win anything coming 5th or 6th. We still talk about the 1972 cup win now! A cup win would outway even coming 2nd in the prem! i think we have a difference of opinion on what is the more significant achievement. last season we saw chelsea knocked out by.....who was it? domestic cups are a sideshow these days, that's why its free to air ont BBC it costs £400 a year to watch pl. a club that finishes 5/6 earns almost £100mill. i dont get yer argument tbh Football along with any sport is about winning things like trophies, cups? You would seriously take a 5th or 6th place over winning a cup?  |
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Post by discokaraoke on Jul 3, 2015 22:39:44 GMT
It's not about the bigger achievement it's about history and those special moments and days in history. I love this current team but won't be telling my grandchildren about the year we finished 6th in the Premier League. I'll be telling them about when we won the cup. The proof is that the team who won in 1972 were well down the league. But we still love them today. Sent from my GT-I8190N using proboards thats my point. it was different in 1972. and your grandchildren wont be telling their kids who won the league cup in 2014, no wayWrong! I have come to the conclusion that you know fuck all about the emotions of true football fans.  |
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 3, 2015 22:47:46 GMT
WTF? You don't win anything coming 5th or 6th. We still talk about the 1972 cup win now! A cup win would outway even coming 2nd in the prem! i think we have a difference of opinion on what is the more significant achievement. last season we saw chelsea knocked out by.....who was it? domestic cups are a sideshow these days, that's why its free to air ont BBC it costs £400 a year to watch pl. a club that finishes 5/6 earns almost £100mill. i dont get yer argument tbh Chelsea were knocked out by Bradford, I'm certain Bradford fans will be talking about that game in 30 years time. |
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Post by pumper on Jul 3, 2015 22:54:33 GMT
thats my point. it was different in 1972. and your grandchildren wont be telling their kids who won the league cup in 2014, no wayWrong! I have come to the conclusion that you know fuck all about the emotions of true football fans. there goes 45 years of loyal, dedicated support down the drain then... |
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Post by pumper on Jul 3, 2015 22:58:24 GMT
i think we have a difference of opinion on what is the more significant achievement. last season we saw chelsea knocked out by.....who was it? domestic cups are a sideshow these days, that's why its free to air ont BBC it costs £400 a year to watch pl. a club that finishes 5/6 earns almost £100mill. i dont get yer argument tbh Chelsea were knocked out by Bradford, I'm certain Bradford fans will be talking about that game in 30 years time. precisely, a victory more notable than arsenal's ultimate cup win. thats my point |
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 3, 2015 23:05:23 GMT
Chelsea were knocked out by Bradford, I'm certain Bradford fans will be talking about that game in 30 years time. precisely, a victory more notable than arsenal's ultimate cup win. thats my point My point is that cup glory is a wonderful moment for supporters. The Autoglass Trophies we won bring back great memories for me as does the FA Cup Final obviously. If we finish 14th next season but win the FA Cup, Stoke supporters will talk about the cup winning side for years and won't even remember we finished 14th |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 3, 2015 23:07:01 GMT
Due to the state of football nowadays, a top 6 finish would easily be a better achievement than a cup win. Not that I'd mind a cup win.. Give me an FA Cup win over 6th. anyday, in years to come, fans will be talking about winning the FA Cup, not finishing 6th. We have finished in the top 5 before, but we still go on about our League Cup win more than when we finished in the top 5. |
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Post by pumper on Jul 3, 2015 23:09:58 GMT
precisely, a victory more notable than arsenal's ultimate cup win. thats my point My point is that cup glory is a wonderful moment for supporters. The Autoglass Trophys we won bring back great memories for me as does the FA Cup Final obviously. If we finish 14th next season but win the FA Cup, Stoke supporters will talk about the cup winning side for years and won't even remember we finished 14th absolutely, but do you think a cup win carried more prestige back in 1972? i think it did... our 2011 fa cup final was sandwiched betwixt 2 prem fixtures, right or wrong the pl does seem to have eaten everything else up. sad but true mate |
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Post by pumper on Jul 3, 2015 23:11:23 GMT
Due to the state of football nowadays, a top 6 finish would easily be a better achievement than a cup win. Not that I'd mind a cup win.. Give me an FA Cup win over 6th. anyday, in years to come, fans will be talking about winning the FA Cup, not finishing 6th. We have finished in the top 5 before, but we still go on about our League Cup win more than when we finished in the top 5. emphasis is different these days tho mate |
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 3, 2015 23:14:24 GMT
My point is that cup glory is a wonderful moment for supporters. The Autoglass Trophys we won bring back great memories for me as does the FA Cup Final obviously. If we finish 14th next season but win the FA Cup, Stoke supporters will talk about the cup winning side for years and won't even remember we finished 14th absolutely, but do you think a cup win carried more prestige back in 1972? i think it did... our 2011 fa cup final was sandwiched betwixt 2 prem fixtures, right or wrong the pl does seem to have eaten everything else up. sad but true mate I genuinely can't remember the FA cup final being sandwiched between two premier fixtures. I remember the FA Cup final, I haven't a fucking scooby what the two Premier league games were |
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Post by pumper on Jul 3, 2015 23:17:45 GMT
absolutely, but do you think a cup win carried more prestige back in 1972? i think it did... our 2011 fa cup final was sandwiched betwixt 2 prem fixtures, right or wrong the pl does seem to have eaten everything else up. sad but true mate I genuinely can't remember the FA cup final being sandwiched between two premier fixtures. I remember the FA Cup final, I haven't a fucking scooby what the two Premier league games were me neither, but i clearly remember that both those pl games drew higher viewing figures...2011 was a nadir for the fa cup |
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 3, 2015 23:21:05 GMT
We'll never agree on this but, if next season we need to win a game to finish 6th or win a cup semi final, I'd take the cup every time.
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Post by pumper on Jul 3, 2015 23:25:20 GMT
progression in the league for me, all day long
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