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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 21:14:06 GMT
......Well it looks that way doesn't it ? I'm talking about Dave Cameron's plans to perhaps consider Air strikes against IS in Syria and not just Iraq.
Should we or shouldn't we ?
If Dave the rave doesn't get the backing of parliament , then it won't go ahead . But at least he's showing willing and initiative . You see for each fighter killed , it means that they can't kill anymore ....I suppose it may be argued that all this may inflame the situation even more .
Either way , it should be a clean clinical technological war designed to make life difficult and grind the bastuurds down .
It's a tough one , isn't it ?
On balance , I'd have to say no . Just let them slug it out amongst themselves to the very last man . It's their war , on their soil and for their own ideological reasons .
Enough is enough . /i]
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 2, 2015 21:23:09 GMT
......Well it looks that way doesn't it ? I'm talking about Dave Cameron's plans to perhaps consider Air strikes against IS in Syria and not just Iraq.
Should we or shouldn't we ?
If Dave the rave doesn't get the backing of parliament , then it won't go ahead . But at least he's showing willing and initiative . You see for each fighter killed , it means that they can't kill anymore ....I suppose it may be argued that all this may inflame the situation even more .
Either way , it should be a clean clinical technological war designed to make life difficult and grind the bastuurds down .
It's a tough one , isn't it ?
On balance , I'd have to say no . Just let them slug it out amongst themselves to the very last man . It's their war , on their soil and for their own ideological reasons .
Enough is enough . /i] Build a fucking big wall like from 'escape from new york' around them. Once they're in that's it no way out. Let them fucking eat themselves. If people want it join them just pick em and drop em in. No sympathy for any of em. A fucking disgrace to humanity. Just leave the rest of us alone you horrible cunts. |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jul 2, 2015 21:25:48 GMT
Already bombing them
and gave them arms
And don't forget that this is the same, is, that dave and Co, wanted to help not so long ago
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 21:44:06 GMT
Already bombing them and gave them arms And don't forget that this is the same, is, that dave and Co, wanted to help not so long ago
Is there any future for the region ? Will it ever possess any humanity for its own innocent people. Do we need to spell it out to these idiotic evil bastuurds .
The flip side of the coin , is the message our more gullible and naive souls hear every day .
"How are our young Muslim brother and sisters being radicalised every day ?"
Personally , I don't care how many get radicalised as long as they do their fighting and dying abroad , but it isn't as easy as that is it ?
There aim is to promote a global conflict involving many different nations.
Pure evil is out there on our streets . |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 21:47:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 22:00:21 GMT
why is your writing all on its side lol
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 22:02:38 GMT
why is your writing all on its side lol Because I'm lying on my side ..... |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jul 2, 2015 22:37:19 GMT
Already bombing them and gave them arms And don't forget that this is the same, is, that dave and Co, wanted to help not so long ago
Is there any future for the region ? Will it ever possess any humanity for its own innocent people. Do we need to spell it out to these idiotic evil bastuurds .
The flip side of the coin , is the message our more gullible and naive souls hear every day .
"How are our young Muslim brother and sisters being radicalised every day ?"
Personally , I don't care how many get radicalised as long as they do their fighting and dying abroad , but it isn't as easy as that is it ?
There aim is to promote a global conflict involving many different nations.
Pure evil is out there on our streets . Assad was put into power by the West , who they thought they could get rid of easily when he wouldn't do as they wanted but it's back fired big time perhaps the best thing at the moment would be to help Assad and the Syrian people, and hope Gaddafi and Saddam can do a Lazarus |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 22:48:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 23:00:49 GMT
I'll be the first to admit however , that if I had lost friends or family out there then my thoughts might be different .
I don't know if that applies to everyone else , but it certainly does to me .
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jul 2, 2015 23:04:03 GMT
Who was put into power by the West and was succeded by his son who was educated in a English public school, iirc, is his wife English as well ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 23:14:24 GMT
Who was put into power by the West and was succeded by his son who was educated in a English public school, iirc, is his wife English as well ? You said , that Assad was put into power by the West . I said he wasn't . You then quoted that his dad was ..... How far back into history do you want to go in order to try and prove that 'the west' is just as guilty for the evil atrocities we are now seeing ? One week , one year , one 9/11 ? What's this got to do with his wife and where he was educated ? It obviously hasn't altered his mindset has it ? |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jul 2, 2015 23:27:03 GMT
Who was put into power by the West and was succeded by his son who was educated in a English public school, iirc, is his wife English as well ? You said , that Assad was put into power by the West . I said he wasn't . You then quoted that his dad was ..... How far back into history do you want to go in order to try and prove that 'the west' is just as guilty for the evil atrocities we are now seeing ? One week , one year , one 9/11 ? What's this got to do with his wife and where he was educated ? It obviously hasn't altered his mindset has it ? His Dad was Assad as well you didn't say he wasn't put into power by the West not trying to prove anything do you wish everyone had a memory of a goldfish where he was educated is just another example of the connections. |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jul 2, 2015 23:33:10 GMT
Who was put into power by the West and was succeded by his son who was educated in a English public school, iirc, is his wife English as well ? You said , that Assad was put into power by the West . I said he wasn't . You then quoted that his dad was ..... How far back into history do you want to go in order to try and prove that 'the west' is just as guilty for the evil atrocities we are now seeing ? One week , one year , one 9/11 ? What's this got to do with his wife and where he was educated ? It obviously hasn't altered his mindset has it ? Where he was educated has a lot to do with it, taught to think that they are the elite and deserve everything, a natural right, all other people (working class ) are worthless to be used and abused thought a socialist like you would have known that |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 23:40:17 GMT
You said , that Assad was put into power by the West . I said he wasn't . You then quoted that his dad was ..... How far back into history do you want to go in order to try and prove that 'the west' is just as guilty for the evil atrocities we are now seeing ? One week , one year , one 9/11 ? What's this got to do with his wife and where he was educated ? It obviously hasn't altered his mindset has it ? His Dad was Assad as well you didn't say he wasn't put into power by the West not trying to prove anything do you wish everyone had a memory of a goldfish where he was educated is just another example of the connections. I think my Dad was called Mumf too ... The thing with Goldfish is that if you gave one a automatic weapon and it was stamped with "made in England" on it , then they still wouldn't be able to pull the trigger .... With humans it's slightly different . No amount of weaponry is dangerous , unless some evil bastuurd decides it's a good idea to use them . This differentiates/ separates the maker from the murderer or dictator . Assads dad is not responsible for what is now happening if you follow my drift . Similarly there are plenty of children from high ranking SS officers from the Second World War who went on to lead peaceful and fulfilled lives denouncing war at every opportunity . Every generation is responsible for its own actions . Assad may once again play a vital role in the current conflict as being the lesser of two evils. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 23:47:10 GMT
You said , that Assad was put into power by the West . I said he wasn't . You then quoted that his dad was ..... How far back into history do you want to go in order to try and prove that 'the west' is just as guilty for the evil atrocities we are now seeing ? One week , one year , one 9/11 ? What's this got to do with his wife and where he was educated ? It obviously hasn't altered his mindset has it ? Where he was educated has a lot to do with it, taught to think that they are the elite and deserve everything, a natural right, all other people (working class ) are worthless to be used and abused thought a socialist like you would have known that No no no .....that's rubbish . it's a figment of your vivid imagination . There are plenty of examples to the contrary ranging from left wing spies , to politicians , to Mathematicians .....the list is endless. Tens of thousands infact . An elite school doesnt make you elite . |
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Post by britsabroad on Jul 3, 2015 2:48:43 GMT
Who gives a shit how it started?
We put them in power so that means we should just leave them to it?
They werent our fault so lets bomb them to kingdom come?
Theyre here and they need to be dealt with. How they got here is irrelevant and a stupid argument for those who just want to say something for the sake of being heard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 4:09:08 GMT
Was watching an interview on Bloomberg the other night regarding how to deal with ISIS...Charlie Rose asked this 5 star General have you ruled out a Nuclear Response, his reply, very coldly was " We have not ruled out anything"...
For anyone who has never seen Charlie Rose he is probably one of the best interviewers on TV, gets straight to the point, and takes no prisoners, but is also very concise and very well learned on the matters that he discusses.
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Post by Northy on Jul 3, 2015 6:29:36 GMT
Saddam and colonel gaddafi kept a lid on them, we helped to remove them with no real plan of what to do after and look what we have got now in their place
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Post by dutchstokie on Jul 3, 2015 6:55:12 GMT
As sure as the sun sets and rises, this will never stop. You kill a few of these terrorists, and others will take their place. You take out a few of the top leaders or whatever you want to call them and others will take their place. They will be seen as martyrs fighting for their beliefs. We are genuinely teetering on the abyss here..its a matter of when we have the mother of all wars not if..... Still - footy season starts in a few weeks !!!  |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Jul 3, 2015 11:11:25 GMT
This is one of the easier questions to answer.
Bomb the bastards in Syria as well as Iraq.
Justice, not revenge, for those people enjoying a peaceful holiday.
If we don't stop them NOW, they will carry out more and more massacres both in the UK and abroad.
We HAVE to strike back HARD in the name of a peaceful future.
Unlike the adventures elsewhere in the Middle East, this would be a just war and carry the support of the British people.
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Post by crapslinger on Jul 3, 2015 11:57:56 GMT
This is one of the easier questions to answer. Bomb the bastards in Syria as well as Iraq. Justice, not revenge, for those people enjoying a peaceful holiday. If we don't stop them NOW, they will carry out more and more massacres both in the UK and abroad. We HAVE to strike back HARD in the name of a peaceful future. Unlike the adventures elsewhere in the Middle East, this would be a just war and carry the support of the British people. All the British people from all faiths should be in support , the ones who are not should be impounded as a threat to national security, the sooner we start the better any one who feels they can not support it on religious grounds should be impounded or deported to the war zone. |
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 3, 2015 12:37:09 GMT
This is one of the easier questions to answer. Bomb the bastards in Syria as well as Iraq. Justice, not revenge, for those people enjoying a peaceful holiday. If we don't stop them NOW, they will carry out more and more massacres both in the UK and abroad. We HAVE to strike back HARD in the name of a peaceful future. Unlike the adventures elsewhere in the Middle East, this would be a just war and carry the support of the British people. Are you aware that ISIS is already being bombed in Syria as well as Iran? Just not by us. Hasn't had the desired impact so far or do you think our bombs are so much more effective than the bombs of the Americans, Canadians, Saudis and others? So, sadly, not one of the easier questions to answer. The way to resolve this is on the ground. Militarily and culturally. More aerial bombardment ain't likely to make much progress without effective action from the Arab armies fighting ISIS and from the moderate clerics taking on the radicals. |
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Post by pumper on Jul 3, 2015 12:58:47 GMT
relax, all the experts say that the gunman wasn't actually a part of ISIS, just a sympathetic loon. the fight in the middle east will burn itself out - they're killing each other, so we really don't need to be involved.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 13:29:03 GMT
Shud be about making the world a better place not revenge
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Post by starkiller on Jul 3, 2015 16:44:23 GMT
War propaganda never fails to have the desired effect.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 17:01:12 GMT
War propaganda never fails to have the desired effect. What propaganda ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 17:21:57 GMT
Non of you wud have wanted to bomb the Vatican after an I. Ra attack
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 17:26:52 GMT
Non of you wud have wanted to bomb the Vatican after an I. Ra attack Or protestants after an ulcer union attack |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 17:27:14 GMT
Non of you wud have wanted to bomb the Vatican after an I. Ra attack Or protestants after an ulcer union attack Ulster lol |
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