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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 1, 2015 23:33:04 GMT
The mighty Trent. Britain's finest water course. A phenomenal river that goes South then North and feeds a few Towns and breweries on it's way. I'm in a dispute with a mate who reckons the 'Head of the Trent' is where Banky Brook from Bradeley meets a tributary in the Abbey. Lion's Paw above Knypo is my pitch. Any ideas? It's nowt more than a trickle through our City nowadays, from-whence-it-gets-it's-its name.
If I dam{n} it in Norton Green could I cause a drought in Nottingham and at the same time flood Joiners' Square?
I know it ends in the Humber Estuary, but where does the Trent start?
Ideas.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 0:09:12 GMT
The mighty Trent. Britain's finest water course. A phenomenal river that goes South then North and feeds a few Towns and breweries on it's way. I'm in a dispute with a mate who reckons the 'Head of the Trent' is where Banky Brook from Bradeley meets a tributary in the Abbey. Lion's Paw above Knypo is my pitch. Any ideas? It's nowt more than a trickle through our City nowadays, from-whence-it-gets-it's-its name. If I dam{n} it in Norton Green could I cause a drought in Nottingham and at the same time flood Joiners' Square? I know it ends in the Humber Estuary, but where does the Trent start? Ideas. I think the Trent is sourced in a field somewhere around Biddulph Moor chees.......probably the reason why it does not really flow through the City .....it's still nothing more than a stream really as it passes through Stoke ......greater things to follow though !
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 2, 2015 0:22:00 GMT
I think the Trent is sourced in a field somewhere around Biddulph Moor chees.......probably the reason why it does not really flow through the City .....it's still nothing more than a stream really as it passes through Stoke ......greater things to follow though ! [/quote]
If you are going with the Biddulph Moor Theory than you are on my side.................... Well done.
It was the damming at Knypersley Reservoir to feed the canals that changed it from a navigable river to a trickle. They found an ancient wooden canoe in the Abbey. {It's in the Museum.}
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Post by Northy on Jul 2, 2015 1:05:06 GMT
Another one for biddulph moor
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 2, 2015 6:15:22 GMT
Does anybody know if the Trent is navigable by canoe from source to the sea?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 2, 2015 6:24:49 GMT
With a river, you must start at the beginning. I located the source of the Trent (it isn't where the books say it is) in an unkempt field below the Staffordshire village of Biddulph Moor. For its first few miles it is no river, but a tiny, dark, secret brook, and I had to walk it.LinkMap
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Post by pumper on Jul 2, 2015 6:38:16 GMT
I was at the end of the canal the other day lol
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 2, 2015 6:40:24 GMT
A decade or more ago, I was out drinking in Notts with James Lovatt(RIP) & I was telling the natives about as a nipper I used to play in the Trent in it's infancy in Bucknall. Sailing leaf boats, making dams, looking for water creatures & at the end of the day would p!$$ in it. So as Notts people down river, they would have drank my p!$$! Oh, how we laughed...
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 2, 2015 6:49:52 GMT
A decade or more ago, I was out drinking in Notts with James Lovatt(RIP) & I was telling the natives about as a nipper I used to play in the Trent in it's infancy in Bucknall. Sailing leaf boats, making dams, looking for water creatures & at the end of the day would p!$$ in it. So as Notts people down river, they would have drank my p!$$! Oh, how we laughed... Very swallows and amazon's.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jul 2, 2015 6:51:52 GMT
A decade or more ago, I was out drinking in Notts with James Lovatt(RIP) & I was telling the natives about as a nipper I used to play in the Trent in it's infancy in Bucknall. Sailing leaf boats, making dams, looking for water creatures & at the end of the day would p!$$ in it. So as Notts people down river, they would have drank my p!$$! Oh, how we laughed... Very swallows and amazon's. And just a little bit gay.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 2, 2015 11:00:13 GMT
Very swallows and amazon's. And just a little bit gay. Homophobe
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Post by elystokie on Jul 2, 2015 11:43:36 GMT
There was a programme on the BBC where a bloke traced the source and travelled (most of) the river's length in a punt, doesn't seem to be available at the moment, I'm sure it's been on fairly recently. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00ydnf4Apparently there are 'several' sources all fairly close together up Biddulph way, from what I remember anyway, I'd like to see the programme again actually.
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Jul 2, 2015 11:48:05 GMT
There was a programme on the BBC where a bloke traced the source and travelled (most of) the river's length in a punt, doesn't seem to be available at the moment, I'm sure it's been on fairly recently. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00ydnf4Apparently there are 'several' sources all fairly close together up Biddulph way, from what I remember anyway, I'd like to see the programme again actually. That was Tom Fort. He started his journey in a small canoe(?), at Trentham gardens as it was the first place that was deep enough to do this.
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Post by elystokie on Jul 2, 2015 11:50:05 GMT
There was a programme on the BBC where a bloke traced the source and travelled (most of) the river's length in a punt, doesn't seem to be available at the moment, I'm sure it's been on fairly recently. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00ydnf4Apparently there are 'several' sources all fairly close together up Biddulph way, from what I remember anyway, I'd like to see the programme again actually. That was Tom Fort. He started his journey in a small canoe(?), at Trentham gardens as it was the first place that was deep enough to do this. You're right about the Trentham Gardens bit, but it was definitely a punt, check the link :)
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Post by Northy on Jul 2, 2015 14:02:39 GMT
There was a programme on the BBC where a bloke traced the source and travelled (most of) the river's length in a punt, doesn't seem to be available at the moment, I'm sure it's been on fairly recently. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00ydnf4Apparently there are 'several' sources all fairly close together up Biddulph way, from what I remember anyway, I'd like to see the programme again actually. I watched that, then he had to change craft as the river was too fast/big to carry on in the punt
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Post by elystokie on Jul 2, 2015 14:03:56 GMT
There was a programme on the BBC where a bloke traced the source and travelled (most of) the river's length in a punt, doesn't seem to be available at the moment, I'm sure it's been on fairly recently. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00ydnf4Apparently there are 'several' sources all fairly close together up Biddulph way, from what I remember anyway, I'd like to see the programme again actually. I watched that, then he had to change craft as the river was too fast/big to carry on in the punt Can you remember when it was last shown NS?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2015 14:06:07 GMT
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Post by Northy on Jul 2, 2015 14:21:33 GMT
I watched that, then he had to change craft as the river was too fast/big to carry on in the punt Can you remember when it was last shown NS? I could say about 3 months ago, but then it would probably be 9 months ago he finished the programme off on a bike I think
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jul 2, 2015 14:23:39 GMT
With a river, you must start at the beginning. I located the source of the Trent (it isn't where the books say it is) in an unkempt field below the Staffordshire village of Biddulph Moor. For its first few miles it is no river, but a tiny, dark, secret brook, and I had to walk it.LinkMap What I found most interesting about that article is that the Trent marks the cultural border of "The North". I've always considered myself to be Northern, and Stoke to be a first Northern city.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 2, 2015 16:57:26 GMT
With a river, you must start at the beginning. I located the source of the Trent (it isn't where the books say it is) in an unkempt field below the Staffordshire village of Biddulph Moor. For its first few miles it is no river, but a tiny, dark, secret brook, and I had to walk it.LinkMap Cheers for those links. I watched Tom Fort's programme, but can't recall what was said about the source. The article is great, but doesn't do the specifics of the location. I'll have to browse in Webberley's for an hour and read the first chapter of th'book. I conna really make head nor tail of the map, but I've been looking at the S-o-T street map and it seems that the Trent emerges on Crowborough Road, Rock End, near Knypersley. About twenty years ago I walked up towards {what I thought would be} the source from Knypersley Reservoir. It seems my original thought that the source is in the Lion's Paw, off Sands Road, Brown Edge is about a 1000 metres off. On the map {page 20} it looks like that location is where it re-emerges after going underground for a couple of hundred metres. I reckon the water originates in an aquifer under Biddulph Moor/Lask Edge. Springing forth next to Crowborough Road. I'll head up for a look at the weekend. My mates contention is based more on semantics than geography, he reckons it only becomes known as the Trent once it's been joined by several other tributaries, in Abbey Hulton. But there is the 'Top of the Trent' pub in Biddulph and Trentside Cottages in Norton Green, both further north. I'm convinced he's got it wrong.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 2, 2015 17:49:06 GMT
With a river, you must start at the beginning. I located the source of the Trent (it isn't where the books say it is) in an unkempt field below the Staffordshire village of Biddulph Moor. For its first few miles it is no river, but a tiny, dark, secret brook, and I had to walk it.Link[url href="http://wikimapia.org/12250170/Trent-Head-Well- source-of-River-Trent"]Map [/url][/quote]Cheers for those links. I watched Tom Fort's programme, but can't recall what was said about the source. The article is great, but doesn't do the specifics of the location. I'll have to browse in Webberley's for an hour and read the first chapter of th'book. I conna really make head nor tail of the map, but I've been looking at the S-o-T street map and it seems that the Trent emerges on Crowborough Road, Rock End, near Knypersley. About twenty years ago I walked up towards {what I thought would be} the source from Knypersley Reservoir. It seems my original thought that the source is in the Lion's Paw, off Sands Road, Brown Edge is about a 1000 metres off. On the map {page 20} it looks like that location is where it re-emerges after going underground for a couple of hundred metres. I reckon the water originates in an aquifer under Biddulph Moor/Lask Edge. Springing forth next to Crowborough Road. I'll head up for a look at the weekend. My mates contention is based more on semantics than geography, he reckons it only becomes known as the Trent once it's been joined by several other tributaries, in Abbey Hulton. But there is the 'Top of the Trent' pub in Biddulph and Trentside Cottages in Norton Green, both further north. I'm convinced he's got it wrong. [/quote] there's loads of Trent tributaries, so he has a point. A spring or a brook are not rivers. I find the Trent quite eerie when it finally goes into the Humber
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 2, 2015 18:05:33 GMT
The mighty Trent. Britain's finest water course. A phenomenal river that goes South then North and feeds a few Towns and breweries on it's way. I'm in a dispute with a mate who reckons the 'Head of the Trent' is where Banky Brook from Bradeley meets a tributary in the Abbey. Lion's Paw above Knypo is my pitch. Any ideas? It's nowt more than a trickle through our City nowadays, from-whence-it-gets-it's-its name. If I dam{n} it in Norton Green could I cause a drought in Nottingham and at the same time flood Joiners' Square? I know it ends in the Humber Estuary, but where does the Trent start? Ideas. Biddulph Moor mate!
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 2, 2015 18:17:19 GMT
The mighty Trent. Britain's finest water course. A phenomenal river that goes South then North and feeds a few Towns and breweries on it's way. I'm in a dispute with a mate who reckons the 'Head of the Trent' is where Banky Brook from Bradeley meets a tributary in the Abbey. Lion's Paw above Knypo is my pitch. Any ideas? It's nowt more than a trickle through our City nowadays, from-whence-it-gets-it's-its name. If I dam{n} it in Norton Green could I cause a drought in Nottingham and at the same time flood Joiners' Square? I know it ends in the Humber Estuary, but where does the Trent start? Ideas. Biddulph Moor mate! That's great. Do you know where exactly on th'Moor that is? {and what it says?}
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 7, 2015 21:13:54 GMT
Huddy you're online. Any more info about the above photo you posted mate?
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jul 7, 2015 21:15:32 GMT
Huddy you're online. Any more info about the above photo you posted mate? It's where the Labour Party berried socialism.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 7, 2015 21:17:13 GMT
Huddy you're online. Any more info about the above photo you posted mate? It's where the Labour Party berried socialism. Ras, Straw or Goose?
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jul 7, 2015 21:18:19 GMT
It's where the Labour Party berried socialism. Ras, Straw or Goose? Bloody spelcheckr
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Post by zelem on Jul 7, 2015 21:21:43 GMT
The image posted by Huddy is indeed the source of the Trent. This can be found in the field directly at the bottom of Trentley drive, Biddulph Moor
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jul 7, 2015 21:26:23 GMT
That'll learn yer. Trying to be a smart asre. I need more info about this Trent Obelisk, it's me clinching bit of info to stop the source being re-located to Abbey Hulton. My mate is serious and a former Counsellor, so has a bit of sway.
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jul 7, 2015 21:35:33 GMT
I've seen Abbey Well Spring water on sale from time to time, to perhaps he's on to something...
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