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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Jun 23, 2015 8:33:25 GMT
Edge, we had a discussion about your dictionary definition of terrorism, and I made the point that definitions change over time because they become obsolete. The original terrorism thread saw you cling mightily to a very black and white point of view, which I challenged you upon at the time. Your good and bad/justified and unjustified point, simply proves the point that sticking to tight definitions is futile and the world is a world of grey. I have nothing more to add than what I wrote in the previous thread. I'm using the 'definition' to 'define' something and I don't think that's an unreasonable position to take but I'll take your point that definitions change over time as a fair point and it is clearly a grey area as this discussion as proved. Secondly you're saying that I'm clinging mightily to a 'black and white' (justified/unjustified) point of view but I actually think this is more realistic than sticking to the ' black' view that ALL terrorism is bad that some have clearly displayed on this thread. I'm also well aware that there is plenty of ' grey' inbetween. There's nothing unreasonable about using a dictionary definition to base one's position off, where things get difficult is when you stick rigidly to an academic position and don't acknowledge areas where the statement falls on it's arse. That's what happened last night and you've adjusted your previously rigid point of view in an attempt to save face. Some of the things that have been said about you have been reprehensible and I my view you have been bullied and ganged up upon, however the way you set your stall out, has prevented me and probably others from trying to defend you. I'm glad that you've accepted that people with a different view, may have something relevant to say on the subject, even though it does not tie in with your viewpoint. I think there is hope for you yet!
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Post by kbillyh on Jun 23, 2015 8:39:35 GMT
Skankmonkey and kbillyh so far. Bathstokie might just be playing devils advocate with his contribution so far or he might agree with me. Theyre hardly Mastermind mate. Id take endorsement from kbillyh as an indication i was barking up the wrong tree. As i suggested before youre quite clearly a recent student with your naive ideals. You will learn. I'm not barking up the wrong tree when i call you a no mates shit fan. I mean, why is it you frequent a Stoke City message board again? Blessing us with his words of wisdom, after all we are just silly little Stoke City with so much to learn from his reflected glory. Here's an idea mate, fuck off over to a shit fan message board.
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Post by britsabroad on Jun 23, 2015 8:47:29 GMT
Theyre hardly Mastermind mate. Id take endorsement from kbillyh as an indication i was barking up the wrong tree. As i suggested before youre quite clearly a recent student with your naive ideals. You will learn. I'm not barking up the wrong tree when i call you a no mates shit fan. I mean, why is it you frequent a Stoke City message board again? Blessing us with his words of wisdom, after all we are just silly little Stoke City with so much to learn from his reflected glory. Here's an idea mate, fuck off over to a shit fan message board. Ive already explained why i post here, you just didnt understand. Besides, being a shit fan (as you call it) is a choice i made, and tomorrow i could change it. But you will always be stupid.
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Post by kbillyh on Jun 23, 2015 8:55:22 GMT
I'm not barking up the wrong tree when i call you a no mates shit fan. I mean, why is it you frequent a Stoke City message board again? Blessing us with his words of wisdom, after all we are just silly little Stoke City with so much to learn from his reflected glory. Here's an idea mate, fuck off over to a shit fan message board. Ive already explained why i post here, you just didnt understand. Besides, being a shit fan (as you call it) is a choice i made, and tomorrow i could change it. But you will always be stupid. See that's the difference you will never understand, we would NEVER even contemplate changing our football team. You are a completely different species from us and whereas i could explain why this is, i know you'd just justify it to yourself with a typical shit fan coping mechanism, miles away from the truth but one that will allow your aloofness to blossom. And you never did explain it either, remind me.....
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Post by britsabroad on Jun 23, 2015 9:07:01 GMT
Ive already explained why i post here, you just didnt understand. Besides, being a shit fan (as you call it) is a choice i made, and tomorrow i could change it. But you will always be stupid. See that's the difference you will never understand, we would NEVER even contemplate changing our football team. You are a completely different species from us and whereas i could explain why this is, i know you'd just justify it to yourself with a typical shit fan coping mechanism, miles away from the truth but one that will allow your aloofness to blossom. And you never did explain it either, remind me..... Could ≠would
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Post by kbillyh on Jun 23, 2015 9:12:39 GMT
See that's the difference you will never understand, we would NEVER even contemplate changing our football team. You are a completely different species from us and whereas i could explain why this is, i know you'd just justify it to yourself with a typical shit fan coping mechanism, miles away from the truth but one that will allow your aloofness to blossom. And you never did explain it either, remind me..... Could ≠would Same rules apply shit fan.
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 23, 2015 9:31:16 GMT
I'm using the 'definition' to 'define' something and I don't think that's an unreasonable position to take but I'll take your point that definitions change over time as a fair point and it is clearly a grey area as this discussion as proved. Secondly you're saying that I'm clinging mightily to a 'black and white' (justified/unjustified) point of view but I actually think this is more realistic than sticking to the ' black' view that ALL terrorism is bad that some have clearly displayed on this thread. I'm also well aware that there is plenty of ' grey' inbetween. There's nothing unreasonable about using a dictionary definition to base one's position off, where things get difficult is when you stick rigidly to an academic position and don't acknowledge areas where the statement falls on it's arse. That's what happened last night and you've adjusted your previously rigid point of view in an attempt to save face. Some of the things that have been said about you have been reprehensible and I my view you have been bullied and ganged up upon, however the way you set your stall out, has prevented me and probably others from trying to defend you. I'm glad that you've accepted that people with a different view, may have something relevant to say on the subject, even though it does not tie in with your viewpoint. I think there is hope for you yet! I'm not guilty of 'adjusting' my position however I will accept that I'm guilty of not articulating my position well enough in the first place. I will take your other comments on board as feedback and reconsider the way I set my stall out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 9:31:41 GMT
I'm not barking up the wrong tree when i call you a no mates shit fan. I mean, why is it you frequent a Stoke City message board again? Blessing us with his words of wisdom, after all we are just silly little Stoke City with so much to learn from his reflected glory. Here's an idea mate, fuck off over to a shit fan message board. Ive already explained why i post here, you just didnt understand. Besides, being a shit fan (as you call it) is a choice i made, and tomorrow i could change it. But you will always be stupid. Lol as if you'd change sides lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 9:35:20 GMT
Ive already explained why i post here, you just didnt understand. Besides, being a shit fan (as you call it) is a choice i made, and tomorrow i could change it. But you will always be stupid. Lol as if you'd change sides lol When you could just change names
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Post by countofmontecristo on Jun 23, 2015 9:46:33 GMT
I'm not barking up the wrong tree when i call you a no mates shit fan. I mean, why is it you frequent a Stoke City message board again? Blessing us with his words of wisdom, after all we are just silly little Stoke City with so much to learn from his reflected glory. Here's an idea mate, fuck off over to a shit fan message board. Ive already explained why i post here, you just didnt understand. Besides, being a shit fan (as you call it) is a choice i made, and tomorrow i could change it. But you will always be stupid. Why not take control of the situation Brits? Just change your username to Shitfan and have done with it! The world's your lobster
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Post by countofmontecristo on Jun 23, 2015 9:53:50 GMT
There's nothing unreasonable about using a dictionary definition to base one's position off, where things get difficult is when you stick rigidly to an academic position and don't acknowledge areas where the statement falls on it's arse. That's what happened last night and you've adjusted your previously rigid point of view in an attempt to save face. Some of the things that have been said about you have been reprehensible and I my view you have been bullied and ganged up upon, however the way you set your stall out, has prevented me and probably others from trying to defend you. I'm glad that you've accepted that people with a different view, may have something relevant to say on the subject, even though it does not tie in with your viewpoint. I think there is hope for you yet! I'm not guilty of 'adjusting' my position however I will accept that I'm guilty of not articulating my position well enough in the first place. I will take your other comments on board as feedback and reconsider the way I set my stall out. ......'tis merely a flesh-wound!
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jun 23, 2015 9:58:20 GMT
... just visiting
To be a nuisance and take this back in a "circular" fashion.
Is there a list of "casualties" yet?
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Post by craig67 on Jun 23, 2015 10:09:59 GMT
Can I just say before anybody accuses me of it-that I am ************** and always will be.
Thank God I cleared that up.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 10:45:31 GMT
Can I just say before anybody accuses me of it-that I am ************** and always will be. Thank God I cleared that up. Well, you certainly have the head for it by the look of your avatar
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 23, 2015 11:14:42 GMT
He's spouting off on the 1863 red lion board ( ************** ) holding court and being supported bigdawg . Everyone gets a pasting Bish is a bumbling , old , senile , homosexual historian .
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Post by Davef on Jun 23, 2015 11:24:19 GMT
He's spouting off on the 1863 red lion board ( ************** ) holding court and being supported bigdawg . Everyone gets a pasting Bish is a bumbling , old , senile , homosexual historian . If any of you must go and read that thread fair enough, but please don't post a link to it on here. Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 11:25:12 GMT
Lol as if you'd change sides lol When you could just change names Are you saying ur ************** now lol
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jun 23, 2015 11:29:00 GMT
Dunner rub this lantern again mate. You don't know what will appear. <winky> PS. I reserve the right to come back and haunt crapslinger every time he says something foolish and/or offensive. Boo! He just did... Gives me plenty of leeway about sneaking back. The guy thinks "something he read on the internet" qualifies as evidence FFS. My cats smarter than that.
............And I haven't got a cat, but the one I was imagining when I typed it looked pretty pleased with itself. Bastard.
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 23, 2015 11:32:45 GMT
He's spouting off on the 1863 red lion board ( ************** ) holding court and being supported bigdawg . Everyone gets a pasting Bish is a bumbling , old , senile , homosexual historian . If any of you must go and read that thread fair enough, but please don't post a link to it on here. Thank you. Ok Dave , why not ? It's like history repeating itself
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jun 23, 2015 11:34:18 GMT
He's spouting off on the 1863 red lion board ( ************** ) holding court and being supported bigdawg . Everyone gets a pasting Bish is a bumbling , old , senile , homosexual historian . That's terrible... He missed out 'cricket loving'.
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Post by britsabroad on Jun 23, 2015 11:37:31 GMT
He's spouting off on the 1863 red lion board ( ************** ) holding court and being supported bigdawg . Everyone gets a pasting Bish is a bumbling , old , senile , homosexual historian . I imagine it wont take them long to realise all the new members that have joined in the last day or two and are posting furiously in that thread are all actually the same person...
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 23, 2015 11:40:12 GMT
He's spouting off on the 1863 red lion board ( ************** ) holding court and being supported bigdawg . Everyone gets a pasting Bish is a bumbling , old , senile , homosexual historian . That's terrible... He missed out 'cricket loving'. Yes indeed , his description was a little off the mark , he's not homosexual is he ? Wouldn't take issue with all the rest though
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 11:41:40 GMT
He's spouting off on the 1863 red lion board ( ************** ) holding court and being supported bigdawg . Everyone gets a pasting Bish is a bumbling , old , senile , homosexual historian . If any of you must go and read that thread fair enough, but please don't post a link to it on here. Thank you. Here here i knew I'd agree with you one day david
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 23, 2015 11:42:36 GMT
He's spouting off on the 1863 red lion board ( ************** ) holding court and being supported bigdawg . Everyone gets a pasting Bish is a bumbling , old , senile , homosexual historian . I imagine it wont take them long to realise all the new members that have joined in the last day or two and are posting furiously in that thread are all actually the same person... He's had one or two welcomes and the general view is the oatcake members are a bunch of c--nuts , wonder what they will think in a couple of weeks though
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Post by Davef on Jun 23, 2015 11:43:11 GMT
If any of you must go and read that thread fair enough, but please don't post a link to it on here. Thank you. Ok Dave , why not ? It's like history repeating itself He's banned from our message board. Linking his contributions on another one more or less means he's appearing on here. Any chance we can put an end to this tedious subject?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 11:44:29 GMT
That's terrible... He missed out 'cricket loving'. Yes indeed , his description was a little off the mark , he's not homosexual is he ? Wouldn't take issue with all the rest though Maybe he was getting mixed up with me .....it must get complicated to differentiate between other posters when your about a dozen yourself edit just read davef's post shhhhtum
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 23, 2015 11:44:58 GMT
Ok Dave , why not ? It's like history repeating itself He's banned from our message board. Linking his contributions on another one more or less means he's appearing on here. Any chance we can put an end to this tedious subject? Ok fair enough
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Post by britsabroad on Jun 23, 2015 11:48:56 GMT
I imagine it wont take them long to realise all the new members that have joined in the last day or two and are posting furiously in that thread are all actually the same person... He's had one or two welcomes and the general view is the oatcake members are a bunch of c--nuts , wonder what they will think in a couple of weeks though I did like his appeal to the 'decent' folk on here to join him over there. By 'decent' folk i presume he means his alter egos.
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 23, 2015 12:06:09 GMT
He's had one or two welcomes and the general view is the oatcake members are a bunch of c--nuts , wonder what they will think in a couple of weeks though I did like his appeal to the 'decent' folk on here to join him over there. By 'decent' folk i presume he means his alter egos. Do you want to be in my gang ? He has a massive ego to feed
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Post by Gods on Jun 23, 2015 12:37:54 GMT
He's spouting off on the 1863 red lion board ( ************** ) holding court and being supported bigdawg . Everyone gets a pasting Bish is a bumbling , old , senile , homosexual historian . Must admit I had never heard of an '1863 red lion' board. Just checked it out and they only seem to be about 4 posters on there and 2 of them are ************** in a couple of his current incarnations. It's pretty much content free in all truth, I think the intent is that it is somehow a little 'edgy' but I just don't think there is enough there to see me swinging by again any time soon.
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