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Post by countofmontecristo on Jun 22, 2015 23:37:30 GMT
Stauffenbergs bomb plot on Adolf '44. Excellent point. Yes....if you're a bit thick
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:38:08 GMT
Well at least I know how to,apply logic along with common sense .....you don't appear to understand either . I've got serious questions about your logic, the fact you've sided with mumf and carpslayer who both think Mandela, an internationally revered Nobel peace prize winner, is a terrorist who's actions cannot be justified speaks volumes. I'd love to know what some of you would have done in the repressive state of Apartheid in South Africa. Well quite frankly I'm not concerned about your concerns regarding my logic .....who on earth do you think you are that you may look down your nose at me ? When you have lived life a little bit more , you may pass judgement .....and I don't side with anyone I'm quite capable of forming my own opinions without the need to form allegiances ....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:39:12 GMT
I can't really be arsed to get involved in this but NO ACT OF TERRORISM CAN EVER BE JUSTIFIED!! To allow such thought would merely encourage acts of terrorism as there will always be someone to consider his actions just. Stauffenbergs bomb plot on Adolf '44. That was not an act of terrorism though was it ?
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jun 22, 2015 23:39:33 GMT
Stauffenbergs bomb plot on Adolf '44. An attack against soldiers during a war? Behave! A hypothetical bomb plot by German civilians at any time. Several in the 30's to choose from.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Jun 22, 2015 23:39:37 GMT
An attack against soldiers during a war? Behave! So why is it justified in a war but not in a repressive state that was guilty of human rights abuses like South Africa under Apartheid? WTF are you on?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:40:16 GMT
Yes....if you're a bit thick Indeed
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jun 22, 2015 23:40:26 GMT
Stauffenbergs bomb plot on Adolf '44. That was not an act of terrorism though was it ? see my post to count.
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 22, 2015 23:41:24 GMT
I've got serious questions about your logic, the fact you've sided with mumf and carpslayer who both think Mandela, an internationally revered Nobel peace prize winner, is a terrorist who's actions cannot be justified speaks volumes. I'd love to know what some of you would have done in the repressive state of Apartheid in South Africa. Well quite frankly I'm not concerned about your concerns regarding my logic .....who on earth do you think you are that you may look down your nose at me ? When you have lived life a little bit more , you may pass judgement .....and I don't side with anyone I'm quite capable of forming my own opinions without the need to form allegiances .... You looked your nose down first Bish. I was having a reasoned debate and then you went and said I'm lacking in logic and common sense. Hypocrite.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:42:15 GMT
I can't really be arsed to get involved in this but NO ACT OF TERRORISM CAN EVER BE JUSTIFIED!! To allow such thought would merely encourage acts of terrorism as there will always be someone to consider his actions just. Stauffenbergs bomb plot on Adolf '44. It was never considered as an act of terrorism at the time . Infact it was deemed as an act of Heroism by the allies .... It was also one small episode in a much greater chapter ....That of War. In War , you have what are called conspirators ....not terrorists. The French had the resistance . Again not terrorists in the conventional sense ....
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jun 22, 2015 23:43:47 GMT
Anyway I'm not supposed to be here. You ain't seen me right. Taps nose and logs out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:44:00 GMT
Well quite frankly I'm not concerned about your concerns regarding my logic .....who on earth do you think you are that you may look down your nose at me ? When you have lived life a little bit more , you may pass judgement .....and I don't side with anyone I'm quite capable of forming my own opinions without the need to form allegiances .... You looked your nose down first Bish. I was having a reasoned debate and then you went and said I'm lacking in logic and common sense. Hypocrite. I beg your pardon ?
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jun 22, 2015 23:45:25 GMT
Stauffenbergs bomb plot on Adolf '44. It was never considered as an act of terrorism at the time . Infact it was deemed as an act of Heroism by the allies .... It was also one small episode in a much greater chapter ....That of War. In War , you have what are called conspirators ....not terrorists. The French had the resistance . Again not terrorists in the conventional sense .... Several bomb plots by German civilians in '30s . Plus other assasination attempts by civilians
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Post by bathstoke on Jun 22, 2015 23:46:18 GMT
I still hold that view you clearly haven't been paying attention. What I am saying is that there is 'good terrorism' (justified) and 'bad terrorism' (unjustified). As far as I can see there can never be " Good " terrorism .....how can there be ? ....terrorism always for the most part ends up in innocent members of the public losing their lives in the the pursuit of someone's ideals .....that can never be " Good" or justifiable .....i think you may find yourself in a very small minority with your opinion on this issue Civilians always get killed in war
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:46:19 GMT
Anyway I'm not supposed to be here. You ain't seen me right. Taps nose and logs out. Okay....Cliiff....Don't forget to get the BIGDawg in before you go to bed.... Taps nose ....
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 22, 2015 23:47:11 GMT
You looked your nose down first Bish. I was having a reasoned debate and then you went and said I'm lacking in logic and common sense. Hypocrite. I beg your pardon ? It's quite clear. Just because you're an old timer with 'experience' it doesn't give you the right to look down on me and tell me I'm lacking in common sense and logic. Then when I question your logic you come out with the 'who on earth do you think you are' line. You're a hypocrite.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:47:46 GMT
It was never considered as an act of terrorism at the time . Infact it was deemed as an act of Heroism by the allies .... It was also one small episode in a much greater chapter ....That of War. In War , you have what are called conspirators ....not terrorists. The French had the resistance . Again not terrorists in the conventional sense .... Several bomb plots by German civilians in '30s . Plus other assasination attempts by civilians .......and ? Was Germany at war in the 30 's ?
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Post by Skankmonkey on Jun 22, 2015 23:48:19 GMT
Anyway I'm not supposed to be here. You ain't seen me right. Taps nose and logs out. Okay....Cliiff....Don't forget to get the BIGDawg in before you go to bed.... Taps nose .... I'll treat that with the contempt you deserve. WUM Night Night.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:50:35 GMT
It's quite clear. Just because you're an old timer with 'experience' it doesn't give you the right to look down on me and tell me I'm lacking in common sense and logic. Then when I question your logic you come out with the 'who on earth do you think you are' line. You're a hypocrite. Well it's better than making yourself look absolutely bloody thick and stupid I suppose .... You were moaning about people calling you names only yesterday ,.... Jesus Wept .!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:51:47 GMT
As far as I can see there can never be " Good " terrorism .....how can there be ? ....terrorism always for the most part ends up in innocent members of the public losing their lives in the the pursuit of someone's ideals .....that can never be " Good" or justifiable .....i think you may find yourself in a very small minority with your opinion on this issue Civilians always get killed in war Of course they do ,it's the nature of the beast ......but we are talking about terrorism , not war as is in the excepted form that we understand it
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:52:26 GMT
Okay....Cliiff....Don't forget to get the BIGDawg in before you go to bed.... Taps nose .... I'll treat that with the contempt you deserve. WUM Night Night. I dont know ....Have I touched a raw nerve ? I may have to add you to the list ....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:53:55 GMT
It's quite clear. Just because you're an old timer with 'experience' it doesn't give you the right to look down on me and tell me I'm lacking in common sense and logic. Then when I question your logic you come out with the 'who on earth do you think you are' line. You're a hypocrite. And you my friend are a young fool .......
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:55:39 GMT
It's quite clear. Just because you're an old timer with 'experience' it doesn't give you the right to look down on me and tell me I'm lacking in common sense and logic. Then when I question your logic you come out with the 'who on earth do you think you are' line. You're a hypocrite. And you my friend are a young fool ....... And an idiot .!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:56:06 GMT
It's quite clear. Just because you're an old timer with 'experience' it doesn't give you the right to look down on me and tell me I'm lacking in common sense and logic. Then when I question your logic you come out with the 'who on earth do you think you are' line. You're a hypocrite. Well it's better than making yourself look absolutely bloody thick and stupid I suppose .... You were moaning about people calling you names only yesterday ,.... Jesus Wept .! Kids eh ?
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 22, 2015 23:56:37 GMT
It's quite clear. Just because you're an old timer with 'experience' it doesn't give you the right to look down on me and tell me I'm lacking in common sense and logic. Then when I question your logic you come out with the 'who on earth do you think you are' line. You're a hypocrite. And you my friend are a young fool ....... It's also quite clear that some other posters have made similar points or are backing my argument. Are they 'old fools' ? Hypocrite.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:57:00 GMT
And you my friend are a young fool ....... And an idiot .! That too
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 22, 2015 23:58:20 GMT
And you my friend are a young fool ....... And an idiot .! Tell me more about how Mandela is a bad terrorist. Fucking clueless.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:58:29 GMT
And you my friend are a young fool ....... It's also quite clear that some other posters have made similar points or are backing my argument. Are they 'old fools' ? Hypocrite. You seem to have a fixation with that word ....be careful
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2015 23:59:59 GMT
Tell me more about how Mandela is a bad terrorist. Fucking clueless. Language .....!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 0:01:20 GMT
And you my friend are a young fool ....... It's also quite clear that some other posters have made similar points or are backing my argument. Are they 'old fools' ? Hypocrite. Quite possibly .....who are they ?
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Post by edgepotter on Jun 23, 2015 0:03:09 GMT
It's also quite clear that some other posters have made similar points or are backing my argument. Are they 'old fools' ? Hypocrite. Quite possibly .....who are they ? Skankmonkey and kbillyh so far. Bathstokie might just be playing devils advocate with his contribution so far or he might agree with me.
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