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Post by Davef on Dec 14, 2015 20:10:31 GMT
We'd be a better side with Wolly and Cameron out of it. So would England re Vardy. I'm pretty happy! Who we bringing in to replace them? Hummels and Matic? Nah, Matic is shit. Paul Pogba.
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Post by whydelilah on Dec 14, 2015 20:30:08 GMT
We'd be a better side with Wolly and Cameron out of it. So would England re Vardy. I'm pretty happy! Surely that depends upon who replaced Wolly and Cameron? Both are doing decent jobs in the positions they are currently playing in. If you don't specify who you are going to play in their place you might as well say we'd be better off without any particular player in the side. For example, unless Butland is the best keeper in the world, then we would be better off with him on the bench and replacing him with the best keeper in the world. He's talking complete arse gravy, Fornie. Don't waste your time trying to make sense of it.
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 14, 2015 20:35:07 GMT
What a shit finish by you vardy, absolute shit according to Bayern.
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Post by whydelilah on Dec 14, 2015 20:37:15 GMT
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Post by milky on Dec 14, 2015 20:38:01 GMT
I'm confused here..
We have an English player who has now scored 15 league goals this side of Christmas. .yet apparently he isn't any good according to some..???
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Post by stokemanusa on Dec 14, 2015 20:39:58 GMT
I'm confused here.. We have an English player who has now scored 15 league goals this side of Christmas. .yet apparently he isn't any good according to some..??? Some have no clue.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 14, 2015 20:42:41 GMT
Where have I mentioned harry Kane? 'He should be starting in the England team right now. Shouldn't even be a debate.' There is no mention of harry Kane there.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 14, 2015 20:44:40 GMT
Yet another goal for Vardy :-)
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Post by thehoof on Dec 14, 2015 20:46:52 GMT
Page 1 tells you everything that you need about the ability of some of our fans to spot a player.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 20:47:32 GMT
'He should be starting in the England team right now. Shouldn't even be a debate.' There is no mention of harry Kane there. Well assuming you actually watch international football you know that most teams including England mainly play with one striker. Assuming you have this knowledge and assuming you know that Harry Kane is a striker who represents England at international level then you should be able to acknowledge there is in fact a debate for who takes up England's striking role.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 20:48:34 GMT
Page 1 tells you everything that you need about the ability of some of our fans to spot a player. That is bollocks. I wasn't involved in that page but not even Leicester fans would have thought Vardy was capable of doing what he has done this season.
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Post by k on Dec 14, 2015 20:48:36 GMT
Woy has to drop Captain Rooney and go with Vardy & Kane up front. That front two will score goals, and they're relatively unknown in European football so could catch a few teams off-guard.
He won't though, as he wouldn't make a big decision like that, even though he knows its the right thing to do. I bet he's secretly hoping Rooney gets injured so the decision is made for him.
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Post by dieguito88 on Dec 14, 2015 20:51:22 GMT
Is pretty funny to read this thread from page 1 to see how many peoples knows fuck all about football
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Post by Bowyer83 on Dec 14, 2015 20:51:39 GMT
Anyone who doesn't think Vardy would be good enough for our team needs a serious reality check.
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Post by thehoof on Dec 14, 2015 20:57:21 GMT
Humphrey. You may be aware of the saying"better to say nothing and let people think you are a fool, ratherthan open your mouth and remove all doubt". The point being that wether or not Leicester fans expectedt him to be brilliant, it is our resident experts who on page 1 refer to him as shit.That is what is bollocks, I imagine that you can see that?
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Post by Davef on Dec 14, 2015 20:57:38 GMT
Page 1 tells you everything that you need about the ability of some of our fans to spot a player. That is bollocks. I wasn't involved in that page but not even Leicester fans would have thought Vardy was capable of doing what he has done this season. Quite probably not, but they didn't think he was "really shit" either.
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 14, 2015 21:05:49 GMT
Another reason to like him.....kicking Costa!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 21:10:25 GMT
That is bollocks. I wasn't involved in that page but not even Leicester fans would have thought Vardy was capable of doing what he has done this season. Quite probably not, but they didn't think he was "really shit" either. In the context of the original post and the fact this is the Oatcake and a bit of fun, the comments are probably understandable. And I imagine they didn't think he was quite up to the quality of this league, he was pretty ineffective last season. Of course, that doesn't really matter now though he still doesn't get in my England team.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 14, 2015 21:16:46 GMT
There is no mention of harry Kane there. Well assuming you actually watch international football you know that most teams including England mainly play with one striker. Assuming you have this knowledge and assuming you know that Harry Kane is a striker who represents England at international level then you should be able to acknowledge there is in fact a debate for who takes up England's striking role. You are making a lot of assumptions there but assuming that you do watch a lot of football, surely you can recognise that Jamie Vardy I the form player in the country, let alone form striker. You are also assuming Hodgson is making correct use of the players available to him whereas that isn't an assumption that I'm making. If we are playing one striker and we picked the most in form striker, then Jamie Vardy is your man right now. He's outshining, out performing and outscoring everyone, be they English or otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 21:35:27 GMT
Well assuming you actually watch international football you know that most teams including England mainly play with one striker. Assuming you have this knowledge and assuming you know that Harry Kane is a striker who represents England at international level then you should be able to acknowledge there is in fact a debate for who takes up England's striking role. You are making a lot of assumptions there but assuming that you do watch a lot of football, surely you can recognise that Jamie Vardy I the form player in the country, let alone form striker. You are also assuming Hodgson is making correct use of the players available to him whereas that isn't an assumption that I'm making. If we are playing one striker and we picked the most in form striker, then Jamie Vardy is your man right now. He's outshining, out performing and outscoring everyone, be they English or otherwise. We aren't playing now, we are playing a tournament at the end of the season. Form is temporary, class is permanent. If Sturridge is fit, he plays before anyone. Harry Kane is also a better all round striker and still scoring goals himself at the moment and did something similar to what Vardy is doing now last season.
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Post by njpotter on Dec 14, 2015 21:40:32 GMT
Page 1 of this thread is hilarious. Not that anyone could have possibly predicted this kind of season from him, but it's still pretty funny to look back at.
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Post by thehoof on Dec 14, 2015 21:42:17 GMT
Humphrey, I think I've sussed you- you are Bayern are you not?
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Post by 2004 on Dec 14, 2015 21:50:49 GMT
For all of you getting smug about page 1 at the time we were right. £15m for a 28 year old striker with 4 goals and 1 PL season under his belt suggested he wasn't really that good. He won't start a single game at the Euros.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 14, 2015 21:57:25 GMT
You are making a lot of assumptions there but assuming that you do watch a lot of football, surely you can recognise that Jamie Vardy I the form player in the country, let alone form striker. You are also assuming Hodgson is making correct use of the players available to him whereas that isn't an assumption that I'm making. If we are playing one striker and we picked the most in form striker, then Jamie Vardy is your man right now. He's outshining, out performing and outscoring everyone, be they English or otherwise. We aren't playing now, we are playing a tournament at the end of the season. Form is temporary, class is permanent. If Sturridge is fit, he plays before anyone. Harry Kane is also a better all round striker and still scoring goals himself at the moment and did something similar to what Vardy is doing now last season. It will be a short tournament , as usual, where name players will be shoe horned into a starting 11 whilst far better options sit on their arse, or worse still sun loungers, doing nothing.
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Post by thehoof on Dec 14, 2015 22:01:56 GMT
For all of you getting smug about page 1 at the time we were right. £15m for a 28 year old striker with 4 goals and 1 PL season under his belt suggested he wasn't really that good. He won't start a single game at the Euros. "Fucking hell, he really is shite." Say no more.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 22:09:35 GMT
We aren't playing now, we are playing a tournament at the end of the season. Form is temporary, class is permanent. If Sturridge is fit, he plays before anyone. Harry Kane is also a better all round striker and still scoring goals himself at the moment and did something similar to what Vardy is doing now last season. It will be a short tournament , as usual, where name players will be shoe horned into a starting 11 whilst far better options sit on their arse, or worse still sun loungers, doing nothing. Well if you're applying that to the two players I mentioned and Jamie Vardy I'm afraid you are far from the truth. Daniel Sturridge is the second best striker in the league when he is fit.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 14, 2015 22:13:41 GMT
It will be a short tournament , as usual, where name players will be shoe horned into a starting 11 whilst far better options sit on their arse, or worse still sun loungers, doing nothing. Well if you're applying that to the two players I mentioned and Jamie Vardy I'm afraid you are far from the truth. Daniel Sturridge is the second best striker in the league when he is fit. When he's fit? He hasn't been fit for a season and a half and has been fit for only 1 season in his career to date. As someone who watches as much football as you do, I thought you'd know that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 22:13:56 GMT
Humphrey, I think I've sussed you- you are Bayern are you not? You've sussed the square root of fuck all, I'm afraid. I have more than my fair share of arguments with him. It is stupid to criticise the remarks on the first page, by all means laugh at them and think how wrong they were but that is it. Nobody saw his current form coming, absolutely nobody. My only contribution to this thread has been I wouldn't pick him for the Euros.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2015 22:16:45 GMT
Well if you're applying that to the two players I mentioned and Jamie Vardy I'm afraid you are far from the truth. Daniel Sturridge is the second best striker in the league when he is fit. When he's fit? He hasn't been fit for a season and a half and has been fit for only 1 season in his career to date. As someone who watches as much football as you do, I thought you'd know that. That bares very little relevance to any of the points I have made and that is why I said 'when he is fit.' That is because the whole point of my argument has been from the very start that if all striking options are available Vardy should not be heading to France. If for example Sturridge and maybe another is injured Vardy would be a welcome replacement.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 14, 2015 22:20:22 GMT
When he's fit? He hasn't been fit for a season and a half and has been fit for only 1 season in his career to date. As someone who watches as much football as you do, I thought you'd know that. That bares very little relevance to any of the points I have made and that is why I said 'when he is fit.' That is because the whole point of my argument has been from the very start that if all striking options are available Vardy should not be heading to France. If for example Sturridge and maybe another is injured Vardy would be a welcome replacement. Sturridge has done absolutely nothing to merit his inclusion in that squad. Vardy has done more than enough. Woy will go with you. Doesn't make it right.
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