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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 6:47:00 GMT
....by the name of Lib/Lab/Con link |
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Post by steve66 on May 26, 2015 6:57:59 GMT
Is this first time you ever thought politics stinks!!!!!!
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Post by lawrieleslie on May 26, 2015 9:09:29 GMT
TBH most 16-17 yr old teenagers in my 6th Form tutor group, apart from immigration, wouldn't have the interest, time or motivation to understand the more complex issues at stake with in/out referendum. FFS many struggled to understand the process of a simple general election.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 10:26:11 GMT
TBH most 16-17 yr old teenagers in my 6th Form tutor group, apart from immigration, wouldn't have the interest, time or motivation to understand the more complex issues at stake with in/out referendum. FFS many struggled to understand the process of a simple general election. Easy minds to manipulate........ The EU has been brainwashing the fuckers for years now....... Apart from the kids in blurton high who are only interested in shagging and sniffing glue  |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 26, 2015 10:26:39 GMT
TBH most 16-17 yr old teenagers in my 6th Form tutor group, apart from immigration, wouldn't have the interest, time or motivation to understand the more complex issues at stake with in/out referendum. FFS many struggled to understand the process of a simple general election. Lawry, I can understand the dilemma.In some ways I wouldn't expect 16 -17 year old to be interested. They don't have to be, why should they at that age . BUT most of us ( and I include myself in this) go through life paying taxes, conforming and leaving decisions to 'them' and yet those decisions affect many aspects of our's and other's lives . Specifically on the EU I think that most of us presume that we get to vote for an MEP it operates like our Parliament, ostensibly with our interests at heart and democratically. It doesn't do either! |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 26, 2015 12:34:34 GMT
I think they should have the vote. If they are more pro-Europe, than is old fogies, then it's up to us to give them a reason to get out. Secondly, if the younger generation are so pro-Europe, then they will eventually put us back in at some time in the future.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 13:25:14 GMT
I think they should have the vote. If they are more pro-Europe, than is old fogies, then it's up to us to give them a reason to get out. Secondly, if the younger generation are so pro-Europe, then they will eventually put us back in at some time in the future. They're good to vote on a eu referendum soon, but not for a general election a few weeks back then? |
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Post by harryburrows on May 26, 2015 14:07:14 GMT
TBH most 16-17 yr old teenagers in my 6th Form tutor group, apart from immigration, wouldn't have the interest, time or motivation to understand the more complex issues at stake with in/out referendum. FFS many struggled to understand the process of a simple general election. Easy minds to manipulate........ The EU has been brainwashing the fuckers for years now....... Apart from the kids in blurton high who are only interested in shagging and sniffing glue We used to sniff the cellulose in the woodwork class , just as good  |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 26, 2015 14:07:39 GMT
I think they should have the vote. If they are more pro-Europe, than is old fogies, then it's up to us to give them a reason to get out. Secondly, if the younger generation are so pro-Europe, then they will eventually put us back in at some time in the future. They're good to vote on a eu referendum soon, but not for a general election a few weeks back then? I think that Labour would have lowered the age of voting if they had been in power, it would not surprise me in the least if 16 year olds, were more likely to vote Labour than Tory. I'm more interesting in what Cameron wants to do about it, as it puts him in a difficult situation; If he supports the referendum age being lowered, then he will be accused by many (you in particular) of being secretly pro-Europe If he supports the referendum age being lowered, then he will weaken his party's chance of being re-elected If he keeps things as they are, then he will be accused of condescension to young people. Are Scottish young people more intelligent and trustworthy than those in England and Wales? |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 14:34:17 GMT
They're good to vote on a eu referendum soon, but not for a general election a few weeks back then? I think that Labour would have lowered the age of voting if they had been in power, it would not surprise me in the least if 16 year olds, were more likely to vote Labour than Tory. I'm more interesting in what Cameron wants to do about it, as it puts him in a difficult situation; If he supports the referendum age being lowered, then he will be accused by many (you in particular) of being secretly pro-Europe If he supports the referendum age being lowered, then he will weaken his party's chance of being re-elected If he keeps things as they are, then he will be accused of condescension to young people. Are Scottish young people more intelligent and trustworthy than those in England and Wales? There's nowt secretly pro Europe about Cameron ......he's said many times he's pro Europe .......my reason for the thread is my line of thought is all three party leaders are pro Europe but it would look a stitch up if cam automatically gave youngsters the vote.....better to say labour liberals forced us......you know how they get together like they did with the Scott's ref  All the fucking same.....don't expect a fair one |
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on May 26, 2015 14:41:48 GMT
I think that Labour would have lowered the age of voting if they had been in power, it would not surprise me in the least if 16 year olds, were more likely to vote Labour than Tory. I'm more interesting in what Cameron wants to do about it, as it puts him in a difficult situation; If he supports the referendum age being lowered, then he will be accused by many (you in particular) of being secretly pro-Europe If he supports the referendum age being lowered, then he will weaken his party's chance of being re-elected If he keeps things as they are, then he will be accused of condescension to young people. Are Scottish young people more intelligent and trustworthy than those in England and Wales? There's nowt secretly pro Europe about Cameron ......he's said many times he's pro Europe .......my reason for the thread is my line of thought is all three party leaders are pro Europe but it would look a stitch up if cam automatically gave youngsters the vote.....better to say labour liberals forced us......you know how they get together like they did with the Scott's ref All the fucking same.....don't expect a fair one Like I say, I'm not that bothered about the kids voting, I'm far more concerned about what the question will be. |
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