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Post by songthrush01 on May 6, 2015 20:20:57 GMT
have to say whelan is a better captain,im not a whelan fan but he made a good captain in those few games.I think ryan is a little to laid back and not as vocal as whelan.
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Post by Davef on May 6, 2015 20:22:04 GMT
Great thread.
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Post by 2004 on May 6, 2015 20:25:47 GMT
Shawcross 100%. It affects Whelan's performances a lot more.
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Post by StokieNath on May 6, 2015 20:27:22 GMT
Shawcross by a mile.
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Post by songthrush01 on May 6, 2015 20:28:51 GMT
reason for saying it is how whelan came out after the blackburn game with hes rollickings,could you see ryan doing that? he hasent as of yet.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 20:30:56 GMT
reason for saying it is how whelan came out after the blackburn game with hes rollickings,could you see ryan doing that? he hasent as of yet. A captain has to be someone you can look up to, someone who starts every week and will do for years and is the best or one of the best players on the team. Whelan deserved a 'rollicking' himself after his shit performance at Blackburn, Shawcross is the only candidate for captain in the squad as far as I'm concerned and I'd have it no other way |
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Post by elystokie on May 6, 2015 20:33:55 GMT
Shawcross 100%. It affects Whelan's performances a lot more. Was going to post the same. |
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Post by songthrush01 on May 6, 2015 20:37:35 GMT
dont you think thou that when whelan came out after blackburn and said what he did that you felt that somebody cared and was passionate to feel the way we did on how we lost.plus after that we went undefeated while he was captain.
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Post by pottersrule on May 6, 2015 20:39:03 GMT
reason for saying it is how whelan came out after the blackburn game with hes rollickings,could you see ryan doing that? he hasent as of yet. A captain has to be someone you can look up to, someone who starts every week and will do for years and is the best or one of the best players on the team. Whelan deserved a 'rollicking' himself after his shit performance at Blackburn, Shawcross is the only candidate for captain in the squad as far as I'm concerned and I'd have it no other way I agree.It's a paradox though that we won 5 out of the 7 premier league games he was missing (including the qpr game when he got injured)But have won only 1 out of 7 since his return. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 6, 2015 20:40:52 GMT
We won the next 3 games after Blackburn but I think that might have been to do with how toss Villa, Hull and Everton were. The fact we managed to do it with Wollscheid and Wilson as Centre Halves though is not far from being a minor miracle!
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Post by songthrush01 on May 6, 2015 20:44:04 GMT
but was it a miracle and ryan is the weaklink maybe a bit to comfortable with his place guranteed.
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Post by chiefdelilah on May 6, 2015 20:45:46 GMT
but was it a miracle and ryan is the weaklink maybe a bit to comfortable with his place guranteed.  |
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Post by crownmeking on May 6, 2015 20:51:55 GMT
but was it a miracle and ryan is the weaklink maybe a bit to comfortable with his place guranteed. Keep off the crack owd. |
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 6, 2015 20:57:49 GMT
My word, really, honestly, you really really think that?
Not very often I'm lost for words, but I' m really struggling never thought this would be up for debate.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2015 21:02:00 GMT
Shawcross and to the shit bin with you!
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Post by thehoof on May 6, 2015 21:05:48 GMT
I don't mind a captain who deserves his place in the side.
Whelan is not a guaranteed starter and should not be.
Regarding Blackburn, other than shout his mouth off, Whelan was as culpable as anyone else.
He is a perfectly decent squad player, but if Stoke are serious about improving, then a replacement for Glen is a necessity in my opinion.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 6, 2015 21:18:47 GMT
Ryan is a terrific captain and centre half.
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Post by songthrush01 on May 6, 2015 21:25:26 GMT
like i said at the start im not a whelan fan.But is ryan a concept of not being dropped like now since hes injury,theres loads of fans out there not happy with there captains form,so is time to have proper vice captain like whelan for when the captains form is bad.
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Post by lastoftheldk on May 6, 2015 21:48:44 GMT
Whelan is a far better captain
Mistake by Tony to make Shawcross the captain when he did, but Tony being Tony , there was no going back
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Post by Davef on May 6, 2015 21:58:39 GMT
Whelan is a far better captain Mistake by Tony to make Shawcross the captain when he did, but Tony being Tony , there was no going back You must be chuffed there's another mentalist on the board. |
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Post by lastoftheldk on May 6, 2015 22:01:52 GMT
Whelan is a far better captain Mistake by Tony to make Shawcross the captain when he did, but Tony being Tony , there was no going back You must be chuffed there's another mentalist on the board. There is a full crew of you lot, |
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Post by Davef on May 6, 2015 22:02:39 GMT
"You lot"?
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Post by Pugsley on May 6, 2015 22:06:19 GMT
Whelan is a far better captain Mistake by Tony to make Shawcross the captain when he did, but Tony being Tony , there was no going back So why hasn't Hughes changed it? Ryan is the right man for the job, anything else is utter rubbish. |
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Post by lastoftheldk on May 6, 2015 22:08:39 GMT
Whelan is a far better captain Mistake by Tony to make Shawcross the captain when he did, but Tony being Tony , there was no going back So why hasn't Hughes changed it? Ryan is the right man for the job, anything else is utter rubbish. It's obvious why he hasn't changed it. whelan has always been the captain on the pitch, before that Delap was. |
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Post by metalhead on May 6, 2015 22:21:43 GMT
Ryan.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on May 6, 2015 22:23:29 GMT
Sometimes I don't think Ryan is captain material, and sometimes I do??????????
Whelan however has more passion about him..... however, he tends to bollock people quite often during the match without being captain, and bollockings don't always get the best out of players, some players thrive on encouragement rather than bollockings....
Therefore, I'd probably stick with Ryan!!!
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on May 6, 2015 22:27:20 GMT
like i said at the start im not a whelan fan.But is ryan a concept of not being dropped like now since hes injury,theres loads of fans out there not happy with there captains form,so is time to have proper vice captain like whelan for when the captains form is bad. Perhaps, and bare with me on this, our captains form may have dropped below his usual exemplary standard as he is constantly covering the right back and his centre half partner as well as being totally exposed by our defensive midfeilders. Just a thought. |
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Post by scfcwebby on May 6, 2015 23:01:32 GMT
Whelan always reminds me of Clive Clarke
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Post by stokemanusa on May 6, 2015 23:10:49 GMT
Whelan is a far better captain Mistake by Tony to make Shawcross the captain when he did, but Tony being Tony , there was no going back  |
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Post by stokemanusa on May 6, 2015 23:17:23 GMT
Here comes the Whelan is holier than thou crew even though he clearly isn't a good captain compared to Ryan.  Mental this has't even shitbinned yet. Well, it has he who shouldn't be criticized in it so I can see why it's still up.  |
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Mental this has't even shitbinned yet. Well, it has he who shouldn't be criticized in it so I can see why it's still up. 
