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Post by DunnetHeadMoonraker on May 5, 2015 18:44:33 GMT
I live in the Caithness , Sutherland and Easter Ross constituency in the far north of the Scottish Highlands. For the last 14 years our MP has been the Liberal Democrat John Thurso ( Eton and too thick to go to university whose real name is John Sinclair and who was formerly a hereditary member of the House of Lords and whose constituency home is part of the Thurso castle estate )
The only reason I'll be voting for John Thurso is to try and stop the Scottish National Party winning the seat. Beware of the SNP as they are a loutish bunch of egotists whose sole ambition is to obtain independence for Scotland and they couldn't care less about the consequences. If Alex Salmond gets elected for the SNP in the Gordon constituency then I fear for the effective government in the UK as he is just a boorish trouble maker.
Rant over.
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Post by boothenboy75 on May 5, 2015 18:51:42 GMT
I think people should way up the situation where they live and do what they think best. I can understand why people in situations similar to yourself will lend their vote to another party to stop an even worse result where they live, but it will need enough people to register their dissatisfaction with the politicians in this country for any chance of change to take place.
Were you born up there mate or are you currently undertaking missionary work?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 19:03:24 GMT
The SNP will look after Scottish interests better than any of the mainstream political parties .
The true scots have had enough of being ruled by Westminister and I can't say I blame them .
I think Sturgeon is a great leader of the party , better than anything we have down here , but the one issue I would have is her opposition to Trident.
I'm not sure if that influences the electorate in west Glasgow however.
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Post by Linx on May 5, 2015 19:03:52 GMT
Waste of time where I live. My vote is wasted whatever I do, so I might as well vote for what I like. This must be one of the safest Tory seats in England.
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Post by Nick1984 on May 5, 2015 19:07:52 GMT
Not a huge fan of UKIP, but I'll be voting to keep Miliband, Balls and the SNP out.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 19:40:02 GMT
No matter what you do in Stoke, the never-done-any-different will ensure Labour get the vote.
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Post by upthefud on May 5, 2015 20:06:31 GMT
No matter what you do in Stoke, the never-done-any-different will ensure Labour get the vote. If Tory voters realise this and back UKIP you could see a shock. I'm voting UKIP. Tory's underestimate the resolve of the UKIP voter
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2015 20:11:56 GMT
No matter what you do in Stoke, the never-done-any-different will ensure Labour get the vote. If Tory voters realise this and back UKIP you could see a shock. I'm voting UKIP. Tory's underestimate the resolve of the UKIP voter My thinking too
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Post by craig67 on May 6, 2015 9:46:32 GMT
No matter what you do in Stoke, the never-done-any-different will ensure Labour get the vote. If Tory voters realise this and back UKIP you could see a shock. I'm voting UKIP. Tory's underestimate the resolve of the UKIP voter In Stoke? I doubt it.
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Post by stokeharry on May 6, 2015 10:03:41 GMT
If Tory voters realise this and back UKIP you could see a shock. I'm voting UKIP. Tory's underestimate the resolve of the UKIP voter My thinking too Mine too I'm voting with my heart UKIP all the way It's the correct decision
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Post by fortressbritannia on May 6, 2015 17:49:39 GMT
I'm voting Tory purely because I never want to see Labour in Stoke-on-Trent again.
If you're a skilled, qualified, educated individual there's absolutely nothing to keep you in the city. Standards are rising in the city, which is fantastic, more young people are staying on in education and going to university or achieving a good vocational education. We as a city should be mighty proud of that, we are naturing some incredibly bright and gifted people. But and this is the most infuriating thing about our city.
There's no future for them in Stoke-on-Trent, there's no way they can forge a good career for themselves. We lose so many 'good' people after putting do much time and effort into them. Until Labour wake up and smell the coffee I will never vote Labour. However I fully expect the rest of Stoke-on-Trent to roll over and have their tummy tickled based on some stupid out of date stereotype because they can't see what's in front of them.
I have considered voting for the City Independents but until they start realising that we are a city (not 5 towns) and that investing in Hanley is right for the city, I can't bring myself to do it.
Labour don't care.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 18:54:47 GMT
I'm voting Tory purely because I never want to see Labour in Stoke-on-Trent again. If you're a skilled, qualified, educated individual there's absolutely nothing to keep you in the city. Standards are rising in the city, which is fantastic, more young people are staying on in education and going to university or achieving a good vocational education. We as a city should be mighty proud of that, we are naturing some incredibly bright and gifted people. But and this is the most infuriating thing about our city. There's no future for them in Stoke-on-Trent, there's no way they can forge a good career for themselves. We lose so many 'good' people after putting do much time and effort into them. Until Labour wake up and smell the coffee I will never vote Labour. However I fully expect the rest of Stoke-on-Trent to roll over and have their tummy tickled based on some stupid out of date stereotype because they can't see what's in front of them. I have considered voting for the City Independents but until they start realising that we are a city (not 5 towns) and that investing in Hanley is right for the city, I can't bring myself to do it. Labour don't care. Good post. My daughter is about to go to Keele and looking 3 years down the line, there's not a hope in hell that she will be retained within these city boundaries. And neither should she be. I would implore anyone with the ability to do so, to leave this sorry hole behind and go and and make something of themselves. The things that are keeping me here are remaining family ties, and the fact that salary vs. cost-of-living is well in my favour. If either or both change, I'll be off like a shot.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 19:01:29 GMT
You can't take the will of the electorate for granted forever .....
A drastic change is required .
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 19:11:09 GMT
You can't take the will of the electorate for granted forever ..... A drastic change is required . A generation or three down the line, it might well happen. At the minute, we have in Stoke a good proportion of dyed-in-the-wool 'reds', like my old man, who couldn't contemplate voting anything other than Labour. He'll vote Labour again, he's an intelligent bloke and I guarantee he wouldn't give Pervez and his cronies the steam off his piss, but it's just the 'done thing round here'. Oddly, he will vote Labour almost despite the people within the party, not because of them. Almost a vote for the rosette, regardless.
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Post by upthefud on May 6, 2015 19:20:09 GMT
I'm voting Tory purely because I never want to see Labour in Stoke-on-Trent again. If you're a skilled, qualified, educated individual there's absolutely nothing to keep you in the city. Standards are rising in the city, which is fantastic, more young people are staying on in education and going to university or achieving a good vocational education. We as a city should be mighty proud of that, we are naturing some incredibly bright and gifted people. But and this is the most infuriating thing about our city. There's no future for them in Stoke-on-Trent, there's no way they can forge a good career for themselves. We lose so many 'good' people after putting do much time and effort into them. Until Labour wake up and smell the coffee I will never vote Labour. However I fully expect the rest of Stoke-on-Trent to roll over and have their tummy tickled based on some stupid out of date stereotype because they can't see what's in front of them. I have considered voting for the City Independents but until they start realising that we are a city (not 5 towns) and that investing in Hanley is right for the city, I can't bring myself to do it. Labour don't care. Whilst I too don't want to see labour here, a vote for the Tories won't achieve your aim. Only UKIP can challenge to labour monopoly in this area.
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Post by fortressbritannia on May 6, 2015 20:20:55 GMT
I'm voting Tory purely because I never want to see Labour in Stoke-on-Trent again. If you're a skilled, qualified, educated individual there's absolutely nothing to keep you in the city. Standards are rising in the city, which is fantastic, more young people are staying on in education and going to university or achieving a good vocational education. We as a city should be mighty proud of that, we are naturing some incredibly bright and gifted people. But and this is the most infuriating thing about our city. There's no future for them in Stoke-on-Trent, there's no way they can forge a good career for themselves. We lose so many 'good' people after putting do much time and effort into them. Until Labour wake up and smell the coffee I will never vote Labour. However I fully expect the rest of Stoke-on-Trent to roll over and have their tummy tickled based on some stupid out of date stereotype because they can't see what's in front of them. I have considered voting for the City Independents but until they start realising that we are a city (not 5 towns) and that investing in Hanley is right for the city, I can't bring myself to do it. Labour don't care. Good post. My daughter is about to go to Keele and looking 3 years down the line, there's not a hope in hell that she will be retained within these city boundaries. And neither should she be. I would implore anyone with the ability to do so, to leave this sorry hole behind and go and and make something of themselves. The things that are keeping me here are remaining family ties, and the fact that salary vs. cost-of-living is well in my favour. If either or both change, I'll be off like a shot. I suspect that there are many more like yourself. Offer them a slightly better job or even the same in another city 90% off them will leave. I myself graduated from Keele a couple of years ago and I was always advised by lecturers and personal tutors, to look to leave Stoke. Unfortunately I'd advise your daughter to do the same.
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Post by desman2 on May 6, 2015 22:02:06 GMT
Tactical voting = voting for someone you dont want to keep out someone you dont want while not voting for the one you do want.
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Post by Squeekster on May 6, 2015 22:25:58 GMT
So what exactly has any government done for our area then?
Between them they've taken most things we had coal/steel and the pot banks themselves tried to hack it in Asia until the world told them it was a big mistake.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 23:01:45 GMT
Surely , tactical voting is only applicable in marginal constituencies where influence can be exerted .
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2015 23:27:27 GMT
If Tory voters realise this and back UKIP you could see a shock. I'm voting UKIP. Tory's underestimate the resolve of the UKIP voter In Stoke? I doubt it. I'm 36 years removed from Stoke ....things may have changed , I'm not sure if they have ....I'd be amazed if that happened in Stoke
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Post by yoc on May 7, 2015 11:43:04 GMT
Stoke-on-Trent the socialist utopia that Labour built? If Labour were in power long enough, the whole of the country would resemble Stoke?
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 12:17:12 GMT
i was thinking of voting tactically but couldn't decide whether to go for a diamond in midfield or just the standard 4-4-2
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 20:58:04 GMT
I've chosen to abstain. Mainly due to the fact that they're all a bunch of massive cunts.
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Post by mermaidsal on May 7, 2015 22:19:14 GMT
Yep, tactically voted Labour in Castle to keep the Tories out (here at least), if it was any less marginal I'd have followed my convinctions and voted Green.
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Post by northantsash on May 7, 2015 23:34:02 GMT
not living in the area any more, i would ask what have the labour done for stoke on trent in the last 10-15 years?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 0:48:52 GMT
You can't take the will of the electorate for granted forever ..... A drastic change is required . A generation or three down the line, it might well happen. At the minute, we have in Stoke a good proportion of dyed-in-the-wool 'reds', like my old man, who couldn't contemplate voting anything other than Labour. He'll vote Labour again, he's an intelligent bloke and I guarantee he wouldn't give Pervez and his cronies the steam off his piss, but it's just the 'done thing round here'. Oddly, he will vote Labour almost despite the people within the party, not because of them. Almost a vote for the rosette, regardless. There is something to be said for loyalty mate ....I admire it more than most things , it quite often turns into blind loyalty , that's something that won't alter until our parents generation has passed .....it's can be infuriating , but it's not a bad thing .
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