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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 19:51:24 GMT
Here's a sight of the future PM and imminent leader of the opposition clashing, with the future leader of the opposition having his arse handed to him and turning into a rambling twitchy idiot. The last exchange is just embarrassing. He knows he's been made to look a fool and is desperate to try to have the last word! I don't especially care for Miliband but I think it's undeniable that he's having a good election campaign so far, much better than Cameron, whose consistently negative campaigning has backfired somewhat. Which is probably why BoJo has been wheeled out so much lately to try to persuade people that the Tories are fun and cuddly really. Cameron could be put out to pasture and dismissed both as Tory leader and as a man who just couldn't win elections in just over two weeks' time. Will we start to see some splits in the Tory ranks if they know they can't win or form the next government as polling day draws near? Who knows? Two weeks is a long time in politics as someone very nearly once said! www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32471755 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 20:24:41 GMT
I totally agree with you
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Apr 26, 2015 20:33:25 GMT
Milliband is a disgusting fuckwit who sounds like he's talking through his arse. God help the country if this prick gets in power. Some people have short memories and have already forgotten the total mess the cunts left the country in the last time we trusted them to run the country. They shouldn't be trusted to organise a piss up in a brewery, never mind run the country. Gouranga.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 20:40:18 GMT
I totally agree albert
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Post by salopstick on Apr 26, 2015 20:49:19 GMT
I thought miliband had his arse handed to him over not doing nothing about non Dom tax whilst he was running the treasurey
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 20:52:12 GMT
Milliband is a disgusting fuckwit who sounds like he's talking through his arse. God help the country if this prick gets in power. Some people have short memories and have already forgotten the total mess the cunts left the country in the last time we trusted them to run the country. They shouldn't be trusted to organise a piss up in a brewery, never mind run the country. Gouranga. I think you need to watch the video . If after watching it you come to the same conclusion then there are a number of consultant psychiatrists I can recommend. Boris is a complete idiot . I would rather vote UKIP than cast my vote in his direction. As for short memories ....we had a decade of growth under the last government . You need treating for amnesia . Gouranga . |
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Post by desman2 on Apr 26, 2015 21:01:00 GMT
Milliband is a disgusting fuckwit who sounds like he's talking through his arse. God help the country if this prick gets in power. Some people have short memories and have already forgotten the total mess the cunts left the country in the last time we trusted them to run the country. They shouldn't be trusted to organise a piss up in a brewery, never mind run the country. Gouranga. I think you need to watch the video . If after watching it you come to the same conclusion then there are a number of consultant psychiatrists I can recommend. Boris is a complete idiot . I would rather vote UKIP than cast my vote in his direction. As for short memories ....we had a decade of growth under the last government . You need treating for amnesia . Gouranga . Yes growth in immigration, welfare, public sector workers, waste and the list goes on |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 21:05:35 GMT
I think you need to watch the video . If after watching it you come to the same conclusion then there are a number of consultant psychiatrists I can recommend. Boris is a complete idiot . I would rather vote UKIP than cast my vote in his direction. As for short memories ....we had a decade of growth under the last government . You need treating for amnesia . Gouranga . Yes growth in immigration, welfare, public sector workers, waste and the list goes on I totally agree Des |
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Post by desman2 on Apr 26, 2015 21:06:56 GMT
Yes growth in immigration, welfare, public sector workers, waste and the list goes on I totally agree Des Shit, I forgot Blairs bank account |
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Post by salopstick on Apr 26, 2015 21:28:24 GMT
Here's a sight of the future PM and imminent leader of the opposition clashing, with the future leader of the opposition having his arse handed to him and turning into a rambling twitchy idiot. The last exchange is just embarrassing. He knows he's been made to look a fool and is desperate to try to have the last word! www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32471755For once I agree with Luke. I can see boris as a future PM and once again ed will be leader of the opposition |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 21:36:13 GMT
I think you need to watch the video . If after watching it you come to the same conclusion then there are a number of consultant psychiatrists I can recommend. Boris is a complete idiot . I would rather vote UKIP than cast my vote in his direction. As for short memories ....we had a decade of growth under the last government . You need treating for amnesia . Gouranga . Yes growth in immigration, welfare, public sector workers, waste and the list goes on The net migration figure is higher than when this shower of shit took over . The amount of millionaires has also exploded too . www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/26/net-migration-to-uk-higher-than-when-coalition-took-office |
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Post by desman2 on Apr 26, 2015 21:40:20 GMT
Of course it is. Theyre all the same and powerless to stop it. Itll get nasty in the end and no bugger can figure it out.
The excuse for the large number of immigrants was to pay for the aging population, which sounds reasonable till you ask how many will we need to pay for the extra 4 million when they get old.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 21:42:15 GMT
Do want to debate the Explosion in Zero hours contracts then ?
Did you personally become a Tory voter on the back of zero hours contracts ?
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Post by salopstick on Apr 26, 2015 21:44:29 GMT
Do want to debate the Explosion in Zero hours contracts then ? Did you personally become a Tory voter on the back of zero hours contracts ? Debate that with ed miliband. Half his MPs use them |
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Post by desman2 on Apr 26, 2015 21:46:22 GMT
My input on zero hours contracts is they are immoral, a tool for exploitation and should be illegal in all forms.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 21:49:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 21:52:32 GMT
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Post by desman2 on Apr 26, 2015 21:54:53 GMT
Ive no problems with a millionaire who has made it through there own hard work but it always concerns me at how they often become more greedy, the more they accumulate.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 22:06:24 GMT
I regularly visit wealthy people's houses , and equally I visit many who are not working . Through my life and in different capacities I have done this for over 30 odd years .
The difference in wealth between the two groups has never been greater . If you see it first hand rather than via the media then it is profoundly shocking.
There comes a point when if you have any compassion for those at the bottom of societies ladder , that you don't really want to witness their struggle. It's extremely sad and depressing .
Food banks , and loan sharks everywhere . Aldi and Lidls market share exploding , whilst Tesco is on its arse.
That does need an economist to work out what's happening .
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Post by desman2 on Apr 26, 2015 22:15:28 GMT
I regularly visit wealthy people's houses , and equally I visit many who are not working . Through my life and in different capacities I have done this for over 30 odd years . The difference in wealth between the two groups has never been greater . If you see it first hand rather than via the media then it is profoundly shocking. There comes a point when if you have any compassion for those at the bottom of societies ladder , that you don't really want to witness their struggle. It's extremely sad and depressing . Food banks , and loan sharks everywhere . Aldi and Lidls market share exploding , whilst Tesco is on its arse. That does need an economist to work out what's happening . I know what you are saying. I know a woman who was forced to give up a well paid job to look after an elderly relative and its a 24 hour job for her, because she lived at the same address and would be left without a home if the old woman had to go into care. She gets £61 a week allowance and is not exempt from her own prescription charges if shes ill. Shes not had one 24 hour period to herself for 2 years and shes saving the govt/council £21000 a year. Yet those able bodied idlers rake in more and more everytime they drop a sprog and its called poverty. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 22:27:55 GMT
There are idle wasters through out society . No government will cure this problem entirely . That has always been the case . The difference is that now we are also importing many like minded wasters from abroad which is compounding the problem . Thousands who have no skills and cannot speak English . This becomes an even bigger drain on our resources than our own wasters cause . Both main parties are powerless to do anything.
Step forward UKIP who propose coming out of Europe and exploiting the message I've just described .
The downside being Economic Armageddon....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 22:43:22 GMT
Here's another unexplored bomb ready to wreak havoc if Zero hour contracts are not abolished . Not only will it affect those who haven't got a private pension , but for the rest of society as a whole. This is because we will all have to bail them out in retirement , so the short term ism of Zero hour contracts only serves to make the richest few richer , whilst the rest of us have more tax to pay to fund those who don't have one. Graph 2 makes the point particularly profound when one looks at incomes in relation to earnings . The NHS is on everyone's lips at the moment , but the nuclear explosion is Pensions .... www.poverty.org.uk/65/index.shtml |
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Post by desman2 on Apr 26, 2015 22:49:05 GMT
Here's another unexplored bomb ready to wreak havoc if Zero hour contracts are not abolished . Not only will it affect those who haven't got a private pension , but for the rest of society as a whole. This is because we will all have to bail them out in retirement , so the short term ism of Zero hour contracts only serves to make the richest few richer , whilst the rest of us have more tax to pay to fund those who don't have one. Graph 2 makes the point particularly profound when one looks at incomes in relation to earnings . The NHS is on everyone's lips at the moment , but the nuclear explosion is Pensions .... www.poverty.org.uk/65/index.shtmlI cant for the life of me understand why now they are giving you the opportunity to start taking lump sums out of your pension pot, while reminding us that the state pension takes extraordinary amounts out of the state. Its obvious its desigtned to allow the more wealthy to do this without causing them too much trouble but its more likely going to be poorer people using it the most. Also all these loopholes which seem only to appear when it benefits the wealthy. No such loopholes for us. |
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Apr 26, 2015 22:52:27 GMT
Here's another unexplored bomb ready to wreak havoc if Zero hour contracts are not abolished . Not only will it affect those who haven't got a private pension , but for the rest of society as a whole. This is because we will all have to bail them out in retirement , so the short term ism of Zero hour contracts only serves to make the richest few richer , whilst the rest of us have more tax to pay to fund those who don't have one. Graph 2 makes the point particularly profound when one looks at incomes in relation to earnings . The NHS is on everyone's lips at the moment , but the nuclear explosion is Pensions .... www.poverty.org.uk/65/index.shtmlThat only goes to show the short term mentality of modern politics. Let's build a legacy for our children- nah! People on this forum spout the Thatcherite dogma as though it's the 1980s. Times have changed. Folk voted an unimaginative Margaret Thatcher because they were fed up of the unions. Folk are fed up of zero hour contracts, dogshit hourly rates, lack of social mobility....so they'll vote for Ed Milliband. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 23:01:39 GMT
Fucking hell Mumf, guardian?.......you're better than that and dont try try to justify the last governments 13 yrs......most of that government should be behind bars now not be allowed to try again |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 23:02:23 GMT
Here's another unexplored bomb ready to wreak havoc if Zero hour contracts are not abolished . Not only will it affect those who haven't got a private pension , but for the rest of society as a whole. This is because we will all have to bail them out in retirement , so the short term ism of Zero hour contracts only serves to make the richest few richer , whilst the rest of us have more tax to pay to fund those who don't have one. Graph 2 makes the point particularly profound when one looks at incomes in relation to earnings . The NHS is on everyone's lips at the moment , but the nuclear explosion is Pensions .... www.poverty.org.uk/65/index.shtmlThat only goes to show the short term mentality of modern politics. Let's build a legacy for our children- nah! People on this forum spout the Thatcherite dogma as though it's the 1980s. Times have changed. Folk voted an unimaginative Margaret Thatcher because they were fed up of the unions. Folk are fed up of zero hour contracts, dogshit hourly rates, lack of social mobility....so they'll vote for Ed Milliband. I know ....Many on here and in society as a whole only see the headline grabbing images. They do not see the bigger picture. Short term ism and greed weigh heavily on most people's egos . It is a sad fact of life. Thatcher once declared " society , what society .?" Perhaps she refused to see the bigger picture . Perhaps she was one of the fortunate ones that didn't need to .... |
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Post by desman2 on Apr 26, 2015 23:04:17 GMT
Here's another unexplored bomb ready to wreak havoc if Zero hour contracts are not abolished . Not only will it affect those who haven't got a private pension , but for the rest of society as a whole. This is because we will all have to bail them out in retirement , so the short term ism of Zero hour contracts only serves to make the richest few richer , whilst the rest of us have more tax to pay to fund those who don't have one. Graph 2 makes the point particularly profound when one looks at incomes in relation to earnings . The NHS is on everyone's lips at the moment , but the nuclear explosion is Pensions .... www.poverty.org.uk/65/index.shtmlThat only goes to show the short term mentality of modern politics. Let's build a legacy for our children- nah! People on this forum spout the Thatcherite dogma as though it's the 1980s. Times have changed. Folk voted an unimaginative Margaret Thatcher because they were fed up of the unions. Folk are fed up of zero hour contracts, dogshit hourly rates, lack of social mobility....so they'll vote for Ed Milliband. To be honest though, no government can force any employer to pay someone more than the minimum wage. Any chance of putting pressure on employers to do so was squashed with Browns catastrophic tax credit scheme. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 23:08:18 GMT
Fucking hell Mumf, guardian?.......you're better than that and dont try try to justify the last governments 13 yrs......most of that government should be behind bars now not be allowed to try again Don't run the risk of embarrassing yourself ....go to bed . I don't know why you are shouting your mouth off and casting aspersions .....you paid for private education .   FFS ! Many can't pay for food or fuel ....and many work full time (but not as plasterers granted ) I'll leave you to ponder ... Goodnight . Mumf |
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Apr 26, 2015 23:14:25 GMT
That only goes to show the short term mentality of modern politics. Let's build a legacy for our children- nah! People on this forum spout the Thatcherite dogma as though it's the 1980s. Times have changed. Folk voted an unimaginative Margaret Thatcher because they were fed up of the unions. Folk are fed up of zero hour contracts, dogshit hourly rates, lack of social mobility....so they'll vote for Ed Milliband. To be honest though, no government can force any employer to pay someone more than the minimum wage. Any chance of putting pressure on employers to do so was squashed with Browns catastrophic tax credit scheme. There has to be a way for working folk to have a minimum standard of living protected by law. I guess I'm promulgating a pre thatcher era, of price and wage controls. The free market has gone too far. Folk only want a chance, that's all. |
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Post by desman2 on Apr 26, 2015 23:25:02 GMT
To be honest though, no government can force any employer to pay someone more than the minimum wage. Any chance of putting pressure on employers to do so was squashed with Browns catastrophic tax credit scheme. There has to be a way for working folk to have a minimum standard of living protected by law. I guess I'm promulgating a pre thatcher era, of price and wage controls. The free market has gone too far. Folk only want a chance, that's all. I agree with you, but when tax credits were introduced they were available to anyone who had kids. Evenm the workshy got them for kids which meant more kids more free cash. They should only have gone to low earners which just might have encouraged some of the lazy fuckers out there to put some effort in. And it cant be said that the lazy out there are small in number when our left wing friends keep telling us that the brits are too lazy to work so we need all these foreigners coming in who then add to the great tax credit bill. |
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