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Post by kustokie on Apr 26, 2015 15:10:42 GMT
Tin hat here!
Despite looking very shaky and making mistakes, we have only conceded 6 goals in the last six games. Unfortunately, we only managed to score 7. Of those 7 only 2 were scored by a recognized striker (Diouf). The rest were from midfield: Adam (3), Moses and Arnie. Clearly signing a good striker is highest priority for the Summer signings. Next get Huth back and get Bego some sessions with a Sports Psychologist because his confidence is totally shot. With his present form I don't any of the "big clubs" offering a lot money or giving him a starting role.
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 15:19:21 GMT
I said we should of gone £15m for benteke in january when his stock was low, we have fuck hope of benteke now in the summer. back to the £3.5m bet edging on strikers in the summer it will be. I'd like to know how many bets we have to edge before having the balls to splash out big on a player who is more than likely to tick all the boxes. Missed a trick there with Benteke.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 26, 2015 15:20:38 GMT
Not really, wasn't going to happen in January in the real world.
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 15:24:05 GMT
Not really, wasn't going to happen in January in the real world. it would of done with the right money, benteke was well out of form and villa looked to literally have no hope. Even them villa fans that come on here said with the right cash lerner would cash in. We'd of got him in that shape for £15M. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 26, 2015 15:26:13 GMT
Defence is most certainly a problem. We're rarely overrun because we keep the ball so much better but we continually dish out free gifts to teams and any meaningful effort from a side generally ends up in our net.
It's not far off being a shambles back there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 15:35:33 GMT
It's a good stat and a goal a game isn't bad but we aren't keeping enough clean sheets.
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 15:35:40 GMT
Not really, wasn't going to happen in January in the real world. certainly won't happen if you don't try |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 26, 2015 15:38:06 GMT
Not really, wasn't going to happen in January in the real world. it would of done with the right money, benteke was well out of form and villa looked to literally have no hope. Even them villa fans that come on here said with the right cash lerner would cash in. We'd of got him in that shape for £15M. One of them said that and what's to say he was right? It would've made literally no sense for them to do that, especially to a club like us. |
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Post by wokinghampotter on Apr 26, 2015 15:38:13 GMT
Whilst agreeing that Begovic is sadly lacking in confidence, there is still concern in defence. Wolly had a shaky time yesterday but equally Ryan had a number of moments as well.
I do not like to see so much interpassing between the back four across the front of the goal. It does not do my ticker any good at all! More angles made and more outlets offered for defenders to play the ball forward.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 26, 2015 15:42:55 GMT
Defence is most certainly a problem. We're rarely overrun because we keep the ball so much better but we continually dish out free gifts to teams and any meaningful effort from a side generally ends up in our net. It's not far off being a shambles back there. Certainly, it's a mess at the back. However, it's not the reason why we only won two of the last six games. We battered WHU and Sunderland and only got 2 goals and 2 points for our efforts. Should have won both those games, in which case we'd already have that magical 51 points and be in 8th place. |
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 15:43:04 GMT
it would of done with the right money, benteke was well out of form and villa looked to literally have no hope. Even them villa fans that come on here said with the right cash lerner would cash in. We'd of got him in that shape for £15M. One of them said that and what's to say he was right? It would've made literally no sense for them to do that, especially to a club like us. Lerner doesn't do sense though does he, they are a selling club under him now with cheap incomings, hence the reason they are suffering and my bet is Sherwood with his stock raised will walk in the summer when he doesn't cough up a decent transfer kitty. He's got a too big a head to hang around bringing in nothing players because his ego won't allow it |
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 26, 2015 15:47:53 GMT
Not havin a consistent back four has been the problem
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 26, 2015 15:49:28 GMT
One of them said that and what's to say he was right? It would've made literally no sense for them to do that, especially to a club like us. Lerner doesn't do sense though does he, they are a selling club under him now with cheap incomings, hence the reason they are suffering and my bet is Sherwood with his stock raised will walk in the summer when he doesn't cough up a decent transfer kitty. He's got a too big a head to hang around bringing in nothing players because his ego won't allow it Even he isn't daft enough to sell his best player in the middle of a relegation battle. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 15:50:53 GMT
midfielders sharing 'hospital passes' ad nauseum might just be part of the problem too
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 15:53:18 GMT
I said we should of gone £15m for benteke in january when his stock was low, we have fuck hope of benteke now in the summer. back to the £3.5m bet edging on strikers in the summer it will be. I'd like to know how many bets we have to edge before having the balls to splash out big on a player who is more than likely to tick all the boxes. Missed a trick there with Benteke. Doesn't matter what you say they wouldn't have fucking sold him in a million years. A relegation threatened side selling their best player, a goal getter no less, for a few quick quid in January? Give over.  |
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 15:54:40 GMT
Lerner doesn't do sense though does he, they are a selling club under him now with cheap incomings, hence the reason they are suffering and my bet is Sherwood with his stock raised will walk in the summer when he doesn't cough up a decent transfer kitty. He's got a too big a head to hang around bringing in nothing players because his ego won't allow it Even he isn't daft enough to sell his best player in the middle of a relegation battle. Wouldn't of put it past him, He was far from their best player at the time though and in his eyes it probably would of bought in 2 or 3 players for different positions to strengthen a weak team. Doesn't matter anyway because for all we hear of Stoke making the noises that we want these types of players a realistic bid hasnt been made for any as far as I'm aware. I wan't a nice houser up the westlands if someone is willing to sell me one for 50k  |
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 15:57:09 GMT
I said we should of gone £15m for benteke in january when his stock was low, we have fuck hope of benteke now in the summer. back to the £3.5m bet edging on strikers in the summer it will be. I'd like to know how many bets we have to edge before having the balls to splash out big on a player who is more than likely to tick all the boxes. Missed a trick there with Benteke. Doesn't matter what you say they wouldn't have fucking sold him in a million years. A relegation threatened side selling their best player, a goal getter no less, for a few quick quid in January? Give over. £15m benteke himself would of been wanting out of there, he's as good as useless to them if his heart isn't in it, again it doesn't matter anyway because until scfc back up their 'wanting top players' claims with 'wanting top player' money it's pointless discussing it |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 26, 2015 15:58:29 GMT
Even he isn't daft enough to sell his best player in the middle of a relegation battle. Wouldn't of put it past him, He was far from their best player at the time though and in his eyes it probably would of bought in 2 or 3 players for different positions to strengthen a weak team. Doesn't matter anyway because for all we hear of Stoke making the noises that we want these types of players a realistic bid hasnt been made for any as far as I'm aware. I wan't a nice houser up the westlands if someone is willing to sell me one for 50k They did what they needed to do and got rid of an unpopular and uninspiring manager. He was still a sizeable asset and one of their most important players - there was no way he was going unless one of the big boys offered silly money. Wouldn't be shocked to see him at Spurs next season. |
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 16:01:54 GMT
Wouldn't of put it past him, He was far from their best player at the time though and in his eyes it probably would of bought in 2 or 3 players for different positions to strengthen a weak team. Doesn't matter anyway because for all we hear of Stoke making the noises that we want these types of players a realistic bid hasnt been made for any as far as I'm aware. I wan't a nice houser up the westlands if someone is willing to sell me one for 50k They did what they needed to do and got rid of an unpopular and uninspiring manager. He was still a sizeable asset and one of their most important players - there was no way he was going unless one of the big boys offered silly money. Wouldn't be shocked to see him at Spurs next season. I'd make Spurs top contenders in the summer now definatly, I wouldn't of in January though, he'd goneb completely off the boil and didn't look interested, that was our chance with the right money |
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 26, 2015 16:04:15 GMT
Wolly is not a bad defender, but unfortunately he isn't close to being the defender Rob Huth is! Bring Huth back and the defence will be sorted!  |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 26, 2015 16:05:14 GMT
They did what they needed to do and got rid of an unpopular and uninspiring manager. He was still a sizeable asset and one of their most important players - there was no way he was going unless one of the big boys offered silly money. Wouldn't be shocked to see him at Spurs next season. I'd make Spurs top contenders in the summer now definatly, I wouldn't of in January though, he'd goneb completely off the boil and didn't look interested, that was our chance with the right money It still would have made zero sense in January. Why would he want to come here if he was available, why would Villa sell their asset when the consequences of doing that would have been diabolical, when does a middling club sell a star player to a rival or smaller club? I also think the defence clearly is a problem and has been all season. |
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Post by kustokie on Apr 26, 2015 16:05:40 GMT
Not havin a consistent back four has been the problem It's been a problem but not the problem why we're not scoring more goals. |
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Apr 26, 2015 16:08:58 GMT
Defence is definitely a problem.
We've been shaky all season and yesterday we looked like we could be carved open at will by one of the worst teams in the league. Great to watch as a neutral mind.
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 16:09:42 GMT
Not havin a consistent back four has been the problem It's been a problem but not the problem why we're not scoring more goals. Thing is with how we play if we are to score more goals we need full backs with a good engine on them and a good cross. Cameron and Pieters imo are poor at the latter, they casn cross a ball well now and again but not often enough imo EDIT: 2 good full backs and with Bojan behind him, Walters would score 15 a season easy, i'm sure of it |
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 16:13:47 GMT
I'd make Spurs top contenders in the summer now definatly, I wouldn't of in January though, he'd goneb completely off the boil and didn't look interested, that was our chance with the right money It still would have made zero sense in January. Why would he want to come here if he was available, why would Villa sell their asset when the consequences of doing that would have been diabolical, when does a middling club sell a star player to a rival or smaller club? I also think the defence clearly is a problem and has been all season. I know if I was Benteke i'd like to play with the likes of Bojan in a decent attacking team where I am likely to score a shed load of goals, for a club with a sensible prolonged management and a proper board with the right intentions. If this was on the same money as Villa or even better slightly more with a nice juicy signing on bonus and a fresh start thrown in for good measure I'd be all for it. But that's me, it'd make perfect sense to me instead of staying at a selling club that might get relegated playing for numerous different managers & shit on field service |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 26, 2015 16:22:12 GMT
It still would have made zero sense in January. Why would he want to come here if he was available, why would Villa sell their asset when the consequences of doing that would have been diabolical, when does a middling club sell a star player to a rival or smaller club? I also think the defence clearly is a problem and has been all season. I know if I was Benteke i'd like to play with the likes of Bojan in a decent attacking team where I am likely to score a shed load of goals, for a club with a sensible prolonged management and a proper board with the right intentions. If this was on the same money as Villa or even better slightly more with a nice juicy signing on bonus and a fresh start thrown in for good measure I'd be all for it. But that's me, it'd make perfect sense to me instead of staying at a selling club that might get relegated playing for numerous different managers & shit on field service So you wouldn't, say, hold to to see if a bigger club that could match your Villa wages (a rumoured £80,000 a week) came in? Or instruct your agent to alert bigger clubs here and abroad to your availability? Or sit tight until the summer when clubs are more inclined to do business? How are they any more of a selling club than we are? |
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 16:23:19 GMT
How do you define a 'big club' anyway, if a big club means a big club like villa because they have a larger attendence and really nothing else in their favour compared to Stoke who for a ground of less than 30k attendence pisses all over villa in every other department, who is the bigger club? The club is as big as the boards ambition in my eyes.
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 16:26:59 GMT
I know if I was Benteke i'd like to play with the likes of Bojan in a decent attacking team where I am likely to score a shed load of goals, for a club with a sensible prolonged management and a proper board with the right intentions. If this was on the same money as Villa or even better slightly more with a nice juicy signing on bonus and a fresh start thrown in for good measure I'd be all for it. But that's me, it'd make perfect sense to me instead of staying at a selling club that might get relegated playing for numerous different managers & shit on field service So you wouldn't, say, hold to to see if a bigger club that could match your Villa wages (a rumoured £80,000 a week) came in? Or instruct your agent to alert bigger clubs here and abroad to your availability? Or sit tight until the summer when clubs are more inclined to do business? How are they any more of a selling club than we are? Villa under that chairman are doomed, Sherwood is a flash in the pan who will go in the summer, have a look at villas signings for the past 3 years and the success of them. They are holding onto the Premiership by the skin of their nails. If we a forward thinking club going in the right direction can't snatch their better players with proper tabled bids and be attractive to these said players then it's time to pack in. It's amazing what a bit of ambition could get with a manager thatswants to break the clubs transfer record to bring you in. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 16:27:19 GMT
Doesn't matter what you say they wouldn't have fucking sold him in a million years. A relegation threatened side selling their best player, a goal getter no less, for a few quick quid in January? Give over. £15m benteke himself would of been wanting out of there, he's as good as useless to them if his heart isn't in it, again it doesn't matter anyway because until scfc back up their 'wanting top players' claims with 'wanting top player' money it's pointless discussing it You're spouting such utter bollocks talking about how Benteke feels, what kind of owner their chairman is etc... You don't know what goes on behind closed doors so please stop telling us everyone elses' opinions for the love of god  You're posting some absolute bollocks |
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Post by viewfrominside on Apr 26, 2015 16:29:25 GMT
£15m benteke himself would of been wanting out of there, he's as good as useless to them if his heart isn't in it, again it doesn't matter anyway because until scfc back up their 'wanting top players' claims with 'wanting top player' money it's pointless discussing it You're spouting such utter bollocks talking about how Benteke feels, what kind of owner their chairman is etc... You don't know what goes on behind closed doors so please stop telling us everyone elses' opinions for the love of god You're posting some absolute bollocks Think it's you underselling scfc to be honest. Villa are on a downward spiral wether you can see it or not and if we can't steal their better players with everything we have in our favour it's time to pack in. At least trying to do it would be a start. |
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You're posting some absolute bollocks
