Hairystool
Academy Starlet
Some days you just can't get rid of a bomb!
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Post by Hairystool on Apr 25, 2015 18:21:25 GMT
Great work by Erik to grasp the bull by the horns and intervene in Wolly's unmerited spat at the Lino.
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Post by mattythestokie on Apr 25, 2015 18:22:26 GMT
Fuck knows what Wolschied was complaining about.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 18:23:58 GMT
Great work by Erik to grasp the bull by the horns and intervene in Wolly's unmerited spat at the Lino. You forgot Ryan's last minute saving tackle, Adam's goal line clearance from a corner, Arnie's tracking back and Cameron's brushing of Defoe for clear goal scoring chances... Wolly was that bad nearly everyone had saved one of his mishaps.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Apr 25, 2015 18:34:33 GMT
Saved him from a certain red card. Absolutely stupid by Woolly and totally unmeritted. It was his cock up, end of story. Well done Pieters for realising what was going on.
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 25, 2015 18:37:37 GMT
What exactly is up with him? Every time he makes a mistake he picks a fight. He messed up an easy situation to leave Defoe one on one with Begovic and then he went off screaming at Hughes. He made an awful error to let them in and he went ballistic at the linesman and referee. He could easily have been sent off because he lost control. See also the games against Blackburn and Man City.
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Post by icelandpotter on Apr 25, 2015 18:38:20 GMT
Where was our captain to step in to sort this out????????
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 18:39:28 GMT
What exactly is up with him? Every time he makes a mistake he picks a fight. He messed up an easy situation to leave Defoe one on one with Begovic and then he went off screaming at Hughes. He made an awful error to let them in and he went ballistic at the linesman and referee. He could easily have been sent off because he lost control. See also the games against Blackburn and Man City. It was probably the worst CB perfromance in a while... He only needs to look at the footage to see mistakes all over the place getting our players out of position and chasing his fuck ups.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Apr 25, 2015 18:40:46 GMT
Where was our captain to step in to sort this out???????? He was making a tackle to save us from going down 1-2.
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Post by ladyinred on Apr 25, 2015 18:41:05 GMT
Where was our captain to step in to sort this out???????? Recovering from a fantastic, body-on-the-line goal saving challenge.
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Post by crowey on Apr 25, 2015 18:41:36 GMT
.... Please refer to my post on our last decent right back
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 25, 2015 18:42:48 GMT
What exactly is up with him? Every time he makes a mistake he picks a fight. He messed up an easy situation to leave Defoe one on one with Begovic and then he went off screaming at Hughes. He made an awful error to let them in and he went ballistic at the linesman and referee. He could easily have been sent off because he lost control. See also the games against Blackburn and Man City. He isn't good enough mate.Fucks up and then tries to deflect the blame.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 25, 2015 18:48:31 GMT
What exactly is up with him? Every time he makes a mistake he picks a fight. He messed up an easy situation to leave Defoe one on one with Begovic and then he went off screaming at Hughes. He made an awful error to let them in and he went ballistic at the linesman and referee. He could easily have been sent off because he lost control. See also the games against Blackburn and Man City. He's realising he's not good enough/embarrassed and trying to deflect, most people do it in that situation.
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Post by icelandpotter on Apr 25, 2015 18:48:40 GMT
Where was our captain to step in to sort this out???????? He was making a tackle to save us from going down 1-2. no Wolly was going mental at the lino after he did that. Say you're right and he was still getting up from the tackle etc, why didn't he reprimand him afterwards when they were back in position?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 18:49:26 GMT
What exactly is up with him? Every time he makes a mistake he picks a fight. He messed up an easy situation to leave Defoe one on one with Begovic and then he went off screaming at Hughes. He made an awful error to let them in and he went ballistic at the linesman and referee. He could easily have been sent off because he lost control. See also the games against Blackburn and Man City. I didn't see him falling out with Hughes, was this on the way back to the tunnel? Talk about sign your own death warrant, after that 'performance'
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 25, 2015 18:50:34 GMT
Sonkoesque today.
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 25, 2015 18:57:32 GMT
Ryan and Wolly are the worse possible central defensive partnership. It's not working, they look uncomfortable playing together and due to Wolly's snail like pace we have to play deeper with him in the side. I'd seriously play any of Wilson, Muniesa and Cameron alongside Ryan before Wolly. This is not a knee jerk reaction I've commented from day one that I'm not convinced by him and today was conclusive proof. The lad actually appeared slightly deranged in his outburst at the lino.
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 25, 2015 18:57:40 GMT
What exactly is up with him? Every time he makes a mistake he picks a fight. He messed up an easy situation to leave Defoe one on one with Begovic and then he went off screaming at Hughes. He made an awful error to let them in and he went ballistic at the linesman and referee. He could easily have been sent off because he lost control. See also the games against Blackburn and Man City. I didn't see him falling out with Hughes, was this on the way back to the tunnel? Talk about sign your own death warrant, after that 'performance' He had to mop up a ball sent over the top but messed it up and let Defoe through. Hughes had a go at him and he gave quite a lot back. It's not the first time, either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 19:02:15 GMT
I didn't see him falling out with Hughes, was this on the way back to the tunnel? Talk about sign your own death warrant, after that 'performance' He had to mop up a ball sent over the top but messed it up and let Defoe through. Hughes had a go at him and he gave quite a lot back. It's not the first time, either. I really hope Hughes has seen enough after today.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 19:08:57 GMT
Ryan and Wolly are the worse possible central defensive partnership. It's not working, they look uncomfortable playing together and due to Wolly's snail like pace we have to play deeper with him in the side. I'd seriously play any of Wilson, Muniesa and Cameron alongside Ryan before Wolly. This is not a knee jerk reaction I've commented from day one that I'm not convinced by him and today was conclusive proof. The lad actually appeared slightly deranged in his outburst at the lino. Cameron ahead of Wollscheid at centre half. I've seen it all today.
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Post by taytotheimpailer on Apr 25, 2015 19:10:03 GMT
Wilson is a better CB than Wollscheid. He clearly lost the ball and then talked himself into a yellow card and then continued his argument. Had a mare today and was half expecting him to be substituted at one point.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 19:22:14 GMT
He was making a tackle to save us from going down 1-2. no Wolly was going mental at the lino after he did that. Say you're right and he was still getting up from the tackle etc, why didn't he reprimand him afterwards when they were back in position? He'd already had Pieters and Walters ripping into him. Not sure a further reprimand would have helped the situation. Pieters' intervention wasn't overly protective either. Once he'd shepherded Wollscheid away from the linesman, he was particularly forceful in making his disdain known. At one point, I'm sure he aimed a little smack at Wollscheid's face. Maybe it was a friendly tap and I'm reading the situation wrongly, but it didn't look that matey to me. Walters didn't look like he was trying to boost the German's confidence either. None of it looked all that friendly, which is unusual for Pieters in particular as he's usually the first player to try to reassure a teammate who's dropped a clanger. I'm all in favour of giving players time to settle in, but when you're on loan, you have to make a good impression quickly. Wollscheid hasn't done anywhere near enough in my opinion. I can't believe we can't find a better frontline centre half elsewhere
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 25, 2015 19:24:31 GMT
Utter dross today.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 19:26:06 GMT
Ryan and Wolly are the worse possible central defensive partnership. It's not working, they look uncomfortable playing together and due to Wolly's snail like pace we have to play deeper with him in the side. I'd seriously play any of Wilson, Muniesa and Cameron alongside Ryan before Wolly. This is not a knee jerk reaction I've commented from day one that I'm not convinced by him and today was conclusive proof. The lad actually appeared slightly deranged in his outburst at the lino. Cameron ahead of Wollscheid at centre half. I've seen it all today. I wouldn't go that far... But I don't think Cameron would of had that massive succession of errors in that 5-10 minute span or even Wilson, for all his costly mistakes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 19:28:21 GMT
Cameron ahead of Wollscheid at centre half. I've seen it all today. I wouldn't go that far... But I don't think Cameron would of had that massive succession of errors in that 5-10 minute span or even Wilson, for all his costly mistakes. It was a horrid 10 minutes. The stuff of nightmares. But it worries me that it could wipe out 4 months of good performances from fans minds, especially considering none of them led to goals today (thankfully).
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 25, 2015 19:28:23 GMT
Ryan and Wolly are the worse possible central defensive partnership. It's not working, they look uncomfortable playing together and due to Wolly's snail like pace we have to play deeper with him in the side. I'd seriously play any of Wilson, Muniesa and Cameron alongside Ryan before Wolly. This is not a knee jerk reaction I've commented from day one that I'm not convinced by him and today was conclusive proof. The lad actually appeared slightly deranged in his outburst at the lino. Cameron ahead of Wollscheid at centre half. I've seen it all today. I'm talking about a central defensive partnership, Wolly and Ryan together look very very poor. Wolly seems to take the main striker leaving Ryan as the cover. Wolly then gets bullied out of it leaving Ryan instinctively drawn towards Wolly leaving them both too narrow. When Ryan is with any of the others I've mentioned, including Cameron, he takes the main striker and 9 times out of 10 bullies the striker leaving the partner more flexible to cover the wider areas. Probably all shit but in my mind it's sensible shit.
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 25, 2015 19:30:56 GMT
I wouldn't go that far... But I don't think Cameron would of had that massive succession of errors in that 5-10 minute span or even Wilson, for all his costly mistakes. It was a horrid 10 minutes. The stuff of nightmares. But it worries me that it could wipe out 4 months of good performances from fans minds, especially considering none of them led to goals today (thankfully). See, opinions eh? 4 months of good performances? Clearly we all see games differently.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 19:31:14 GMT
I wouldn't go that far... But I don't think Cameron would of had that massive succession of errors in that 5-10 minute span or even Wilson, for all his costly mistakes. It was a horrid 10 minutes. The stuff of nightmares. But it worries me that it could wipe out 4 months of good performances from fans minds, especially considering none of them led to goals today (thankfully). It was a mind altering performance for some. I for one always suspected his pace since day 1 and that would be the main problem with him but his passing and positioning today was so bad I'd love to pick Hughes mind after that match. If only Muniesa was healthy this season comes to my mind. I think Muniesa needs the rest like Bojan and we could possibly see Wilson next match if not another chance for Phillip to prove his inclusion into the plans.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 25, 2015 19:32:08 GMT
I wouldn't go that far... But I don't think Cameron would of had that massive succession of errors in that 5-10 minute span or even Wilson, for all his costly mistakes. It was a horrid 10 minutes. The stuff of nightmares. But it worries me that it could wipe out 4 months of good performances from fans minds, especially considering none of them led to goals today (thankfully). It was more than 10 minutes and he's had more dodgy games than good ones.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 19:33:13 GMT
It was a horrid 10 minutes. The stuff of nightmares. But it worries me that it could wipe out 4 months of good performances from fans minds, especially considering none of them led to goals today (thankfully). It was more than 10 minutes and he's had more dodgy games than good ones. Yes but he had a 10 minute span that was truly awful where they had several goal scoring chances they missed.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 25, 2015 19:34:00 GMT
It was more than 10 minutes and he's had more dodgy games than good ones. Yes but he had a 10 minute span that was truly awful where they had several goal scoring chances they missed. That was the nadir but he was dodgy throughout.
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