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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 25, 2015 16:07:27 GMT
We know that. But what's with this death wish stuff we've started playing?
Really was shameful at times.
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Apr 25, 2015 16:09:36 GMT
Around the 86th minute or so I was expecting us to bring Bego up for a corner if we got one in injury time.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 25, 2015 16:10:07 GMT
Defended horribly today.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 25, 2015 16:12:53 GMT
To be fair we did play with only two defenders today!
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Post by 2004 on Apr 25, 2015 16:13:08 GMT
I hope Muniesa is back ASAP
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Post by slother on Apr 25, 2015 16:13:26 GMT
We know that. But what's with this death wish stuff we've started playing? Really was shameful at times. The playing out from the back was insane when Zonz was marked because Adam and Ireland were way up the pitch and Pieters and Cameron were positioned like wingers. I think that's why Crouch came on. Sparky was indicating it might be time to go a bit longer.
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Post by obhstokie on Apr 25, 2015 16:13:27 GMT
It really bugs me when defenders piss about with the ball, I'm all up for a good passing game from the back but when nothings on and someone running at you just belt the ball! Not worth giving a goal away, plus with Diouf Crouch or Walters up top there's a good chance we'll keep it.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 16:14:32 GMT
Wolly did his best to give away a goal, luckily everyone besides him hadn't done the same. Barring Begovic.
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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 25, 2015 16:15:08 GMT
Dont know what went on at the back today....instead of control and pass it was control, bobble, control, dither and then pass.
All 4 looked shaky today I thought. No communication
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 25, 2015 16:15:26 GMT
We know that. But what's with this death wish stuff we've started playing? Really was shameful at times. I only listened to the match, Momo, but it sounded like we were under the cosh for large parts of the second half. What is the problem? Is it a lack of discipline or a lack of ability?
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 16:15:49 GMT
We know that. But what's with this death wish stuff we've started playing? Really was shameful at times. The playing out from the back was insane when Zonz was marked because Adam and Ireland were way up the pitch and Pieters and Cameron were positioned like wingers. I think that's why Crouch came on. Sparky was indicating it might be time to go a bit longer. There was a lack of movement. There always is from our midfielders off the ball.
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Post by ohbottom on Apr 25, 2015 16:48:40 GMT
2nd half our defenders looked like they were wearing roller-skates. Especially Wolly.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Apr 25, 2015 17:07:01 GMT
Our weakness this season has been sloppy defending , an area to work on in the Summer , may be a way back for Huth , seems to be doing well at Leicester
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Post by wuzza on Apr 25, 2015 17:08:05 GMT
None of them did well. Bego's lack of confidence and communication seems to have spread through the defence. The management really need to get back to basics for the rest of the season and stop encouraging some of the suicidal stuff.
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Post by retired1 on Apr 25, 2015 17:10:02 GMT
We know that. But what's with this death wish stuff we've started playing? Really was shameful at times. I only listened to the match, Momo, but it sounded like we were under the cosh for large parts of the second half. What is the problem? Is it a lack of discipline or a lack of ability? Both.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 25, 2015 17:13:01 GMT
We know that. But what's with this death wish stuff we've started playing? Really was shameful at times. It's spreading throughout the team for me and it's one thing that is pissing me right off and the main reason we won't keep clean sheets. It starts with Bego and then Wolly, then Cameron and it scares the Bejeezus out of me. Even Ryan has started doing it a bit!
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 25, 2015 17:14:01 GMT
Slaughtering players at the ground from minute one will not get the best out of them. Some of the comments from so called Stoke fans today were an absolute disgrace. Shameful stuff.
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Post by Stokeontrent on Apr 25, 2015 17:14:16 GMT
Hopefully next week we will see
Butland
Pieters Muni Shawcross Bardsley
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 25, 2015 17:14:18 GMT
I don't think we were ever 'under the cosh' to be fair. They are a dreadful side who we gave several great chances to because of piss poor preparation as a defensive unit and a general sense of panic.
It really was fucking woeful at times.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 25, 2015 17:15:58 GMT
We created all of their best chances for them.
Wolly needs to realise that sometimes he just needs to fucking launch it.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 17:17:18 GMT
Slaughtering players at the ground from minute one will not get the best out of them. Some of the comments from so called Stoke fans today were an absolute disgrace. Shameful stuff. Normal there and on here.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 25, 2015 17:20:02 GMT
It doesn't help when half of them can't defend.
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Post by crowey on Apr 25, 2015 17:23:45 GMT
....eeerrrr Butland & Huth please Leslie
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:25:44 GMT
We are our own worst enemies sometimes. The 1st 10 minutes was just sideways,backwards and more sideways between the defenders and all it does is encourage the opposiotn to push you back which then leads to panic. You've then got us still not concentrating from corners,turning our backs on the corner taker and leaving ourselves 2 on 1. Add Bego to that who still after all these years manages to kick the ball straight into touch....as well as his 1 customary mistake per match. Then you've got the big German who quite frankly is too much of a tart to be a centre half and Ryan who looks a shadow of his former self.
All in all we were dog shite at the back .A decent team would have hammered us today
We need a new defensive coach
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 25, 2015 17:29:20 GMT
I don't think we were ever 'under the cosh' to be fair. They are a dreadful side who we gave several great chances to because of piss poor preparation as a defensive unit and a general sense of panic. It really was fucking woeful at times. Absolutely correct Sheikhy, they were the worst side (and by some distance) to visit the Brit this season and (almost unbelievably) we conspired to gift them the game with utterly atrocious defending.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 25, 2015 17:30:52 GMT
We seem unable to keep a clean sheet right now! This must be sorted quickly!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:44:36 GMT
Some of that stuff today was appalling. I felt sure we were going to give them the game!
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Post by stokesaint1 on Apr 25, 2015 18:01:13 GMT
Beggo needs to be "rested" for a week or two, some excellent saves but some awful mistakes, which he certainly wasn't making last season. Butland deserves a chance. As for Wolfy, he's got to be dropped, what a cock up and then tries to blame the linesman. Clown! Good job Pieters got hold of him or he'd have deservedly gone off. Then bugger me, two minutes later he almost repeats the stupid act. Save your money Stoke, not good enough for us, I'd prefer the Belin Wall, that is Huth, any day of the week, or Muniesia, or even Wilson.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 25, 2015 18:01:19 GMT
Ireland and Adam on the same pitch. And Cameron and wolly up to their usual tricks. What do you expect? Sidwell in for Adam. Bardsley in for Cameron and muni in for wolly next week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 18:07:06 GMT
Ireland and Adam on the same pitch. And Cameron and silly up to their usual tricks. What do you expect? Sidwell in for Adam. Beardsley in for Cameron and muni in for wolly next week. Adam and Ireland along with Arnie were our best players, they dont deserve to be dropped. I agree on Cameron though he was woeful.
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