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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 25, 2015 17:08:01 GMT
Typical picking on wollscheid when even Ryan was just as poor Ryan wasn't great today but the undoubted weak link was Wolly. It's not treasonous to say that. Agreed, saying it how you see it is now a crime on here. Wollsheid isn't as good as Huth and never will be. He isn't a natural defender and doesn't do the ugly stuff that gets you clean sheets very well at all. For that reason I'd steer clear because we have better and if we want to progress we need to improve the squad and he doesn't.
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Post by andylgr on Apr 25, 2015 17:08:00 GMT
At times wolly looks like he's playing in slow motion, way to causal at times. Why he lost his head with the liner I don't don't know, because it was his fuck up when he was dawdling on the ball that let wickham in second half.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 17:09:16 GMT
If only we had a good German centre half...... Told this was a dumb move and was chastised...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:09:16 GMT
Typical picking on wollscheid when even Ryan was just as poor That's ridiculous. Ryan, not at his best, knocks Wollscheid into a cocked hat.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 25, 2015 17:09:33 GMT
The hissy fit was also very reminiscent of Blackburn where he wanted to blame anyone after another fuck up. The crazy thing is that it wasn't a foul. It was just shit, weak play. His arrogant demeanour really pissed me off at Blackburn as it did today (and it seemed to annoy his teammates too). He makes silly mistakes and isn't strong enough or quick enough to recover.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 25, 2015 17:10:24 GMT
If he didn't have the pedestrian infront of him he might of had a better game with odemwingie on the line. The one-two walters fucked up with Cameron charging the box was laughable. Can you not defend your man without sticking the boot into someone else? With the amount of stick some of our players are getting you'd think we are bottom of the league. Disgraceful. Its never Cameron's fault if he has a crap game
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:14:00 GMT
Letting Huth go in favour of this guy, was stupid.
If we spend ANY money on Wollscheid, we have wasted it.
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Post by lordb on Apr 25, 2015 17:14:49 GMT
Three awful errors today.Three. On top of that he was generally bullied (again) this time by Wickham. I'm sorry but I've had enough of him. Wilson has made errors too but he's better. Huth is better than both.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:15:50 GMT
Three awful errors today.Three. On top of that he was generally bullied (again) this time by Wickham. I'm sorry but I've had enough of him. Wilson has made errors to but he's better. Huth is better than both. I counted three bad ones and four more pretty poor ones.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 25, 2015 17:17:34 GMT
Got to be honest, he gives me the shits.
Presumably Hughes was very much predisposed to making it permanent, but I don't think he's done enough to cement the idea in his head. There's a certain lackadaisical awkwardness about him.
Even for Ā£3m, not sure I'd bother. With Wilson, Muniesa (and Huth) here, the quality's the key, not the price tag.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:20:31 GMT
Got to be honest, he gives me the shits. Presumably Hughes was very much predisposed to making it permanent, but I don't think he's done enough to cement the idea in his head. There's a certain lackadaisical awkwardness about him. Even for Ā£3m, not sure I'd bother. With Wilson, Muniesa (and Huth) here, the quality's the key, not the price tag. Bang on. First half, he had to run from a standing start. It was pathetic. Ages ago, I had a tortoise that was faster out of the blocks.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 25, 2015 17:26:24 GMT
Two big mistakes today that could have cost us the game! His passing wasn't good either something he usually is very good at! That said Ryan has not been the same player after the injury either, or is it the partnership? I still want Huth back!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:27:26 GMT
He's got worse as the season has progressed. I wouldn't want him on a free !
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Post by Anto1962 on Apr 25, 2015 17:27:38 GMT
Shawcross was not as poor as Wollsheid, if it hadn't been for his magnificent block after Wollsceid had given possession away we would be talking about a loss now.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 17:27:58 GMT
Two big mistakes today that could have cost us the game! His passing wasn't good either something he usually is very good at! That said Ryan has not been the same player after the injury either, or is it the partnership? I still want Huth back! Partnership, Huth blocked people... Muniesa could catch most or slow them and Wolly well, he's slow and not physical enough.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 25, 2015 17:29:38 GMT
Two big mistakes today that could have cost us the game! His passing wasn't good either something he usually is very good at! That said Ryan has not been the same player after the injury either, or is it the partnership? I still want Huth back! Partnership, Huth blocked people... Muniesa could catch most or slow them and Wolly well, he's slow and not physical enough. I tend to agree that these two aren't the real deal together! HUTH!
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Post by staffordpotter78 on Apr 25, 2015 17:29:56 GMT
If Wollscheid's the answer then I'm still scratching my head to what the question is. He's like a slow reincarnation of Danny Collins
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Post by kurt on Apr 25, 2015 17:33:35 GMT
He is a likeable guy and i wish him all the best at Stoke but i canĀ“t remember seeing a worse defender performance than his today.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Apr 25, 2015 17:41:11 GMT
He's a liability. I won't be losing any sleep if we don't complete the deal. This. Huth is a far better defender. Shawcross misses Huth as well, it is so obvious. Hughes can stick his ball-playing centre halves where the sun dont shine. I want defenders who can defend first and foremost, not good enough. Huth is needed back with Wilson as cover...put the 3million towards a right back!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:43:21 GMT
After that performance today, I don't want us to sign him, and he is very slow.
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Post by BuzzB on Apr 25, 2015 17:45:52 GMT
I think that today he probably played himself out of a contract with that strop. Hughes isn't daft. We have better at the club in Muni and Huth.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 25, 2015 17:46:17 GMT
For a few minutes today he really lost it!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:47:02 GMT
He's a liability. I won't be losing any sleep if we don't complete the deal. This. Huth is a far better defender. Shawcross misses Huth as well, it is so obvious. Hughes can stick his ball-playing centre halves where the sun dont shine. I want defenders who can defend first and foremost, not good enough. Huth is needed back with Wilson as cover...put the 3million towards a right back! Spot on. I really hope we dont sign him. I hate the fannying around that has become part of our game at the back, its dangerous and unecessary. For me Ryan and Huthy should start next season with a new right back and Erik at left back.
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 25, 2015 17:48:57 GMT
I thought he was terrible today, and some of his other displays haven't been great either.
It's a definite 'no' from me. Huth, Shawcross, Muniesa. Wilson should be ample centre-half options for next season. I don't think Wollscheid's as good as any of that quartet to be honest.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:50:11 GMT
Les doesn't know his arse from his elbow.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:50:29 GMT
His performance at Blackburn was enough for me and even playin alongside shawcross he isn't convincing. Not good enough for where we are at. I hope we arent going to just shop in the bargain basement this summer again and instead invest in finding the quality we need to play next to ryan, and find a right back and proper centre forward
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Apr 25, 2015 17:52:11 GMT
The bloke is NOT GOOD ENOUGH for the premier league imo which i told Bowen today in no uncertain times during the game.The fact we let Huth go and replaced him with a fuckin pansy is a joke for me.He and Begovic need dropping until the end of season and then decide in the summer on the both of them.I also add that even when he arrives at the ground like today he's a loner and its pretty obvious he doesn't get on with many of the squad.Sorry Huth is a FAR SUPERIOR player then Wollscheid FACT.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 25, 2015 17:52:18 GMT
I can't believe he's had another hissy fit, his behaviour at Blackburn was bordering on pathetic. He did the same thing at another game around that time too? I can't remember which one it was. Jury's out for me, but I bringing back Huth is not a bad idea. Save the money and concentrate on getting Huth fit.
I do think we need to appreciate though the change in play will make us weaker in some aspects at the back. It's part of what holds players like whelan back at times
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 25, 2015 17:56:20 GMT
Wilson can't be fit enough to start. I can't see how the manager is picking Wollscheid ahead of him otherwise. I think today will convince the manager not to sign him permanently.
One thing I will say is that supporters should get behind the players at the game. We have plenty who can't wait to get on the backs of our lads from minute one.
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Post by rickyisgod on Apr 25, 2015 18:01:05 GMT
To summarise this thread he is fuckin garbage and I reckon I could run in quick sand faster than this Fooker!!
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