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Post by baltipiesmuggler on Apr 25, 2015 16:51:01 GMT
Very extreme, calling him a liability. No, it's true! What do you call losing the ball as the last man after dithering about, passing 8 yards to their midfield time after time and being a yard behind play on numerous occasions? Made to look a fool at times by one of worst attacks in the league. Not for me - there has to be better out there.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 25, 2015 16:51:53 GMT
He's a liability. I won't be losing any sleep if we don't complete the deal. Very extreme, calling him a liability. I don't think it is. In possession he takes ridiculous risks and he gets beaten in way to many physical battles. Then there's his lack of pace...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 25, 2015 16:53:31 GMT
He was fucking awful before he made those two massive mistakes.
He missed a simple clearance that allowed Defoe in, in the first half, Defoe should've scored. And then he got beat in the air once or twice by Defoe then the coup de grace was when he got shoulder barged and went down like a sack of shit and whined about it. He's so bastard weak it's untrue.
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Post by clarkeda on Apr 25, 2015 16:54:51 GMT
Not the answer for me, decent cover though. He was shite today. Takes too long on the ball
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Post by wuzza on Apr 25, 2015 16:54:52 GMT
Problems with the whole back 4 today not just Wolly.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 16:56:05 GMT
Very extreme, calling him a liability. I don't think it is. In possession he takes ridiculous risks and he gets beaten in way to many physical battles. Then there's his lack of pace... It's pretty sad when lil Muniesa and Wilson are more physical in chllenges and aerials than Wollscheid who isn't small.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 25, 2015 16:56:15 GMT
Problems with the whole back 4 today not just Wolly. Good point. Will the Cameron police allow me to say he was crap again?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 25, 2015 16:56:26 GMT
It is an absolute travesty that Robert huth is plying his trade elsewhere.
Just spoke to my lad who was at the Burnley game and when I asked him how huth played he said "huth was awesome".
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Post by stokefanone on Apr 25, 2015 16:56:47 GMT
I think the problem Is the pairing of Wolly and Shaws. The don't work together. Wolly was good with either Muni or Wilson alongside him. We will have big problems next season if he continues with this pairing. I like Wolly but if Ryan is staying with us, I wouldn't sign him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 25, 2015 16:57:24 GMT
Cameron was wank.
Pieters played really well I thought bar his crossing.
Shawcross made one bad pass that helped with the Defoe chance but other than that I thought he was ok too.
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Post by timbo1988 on Apr 25, 2015 16:57:32 GMT
He is dreadful! Those saying he will come good what attributes do you think he has that mean he will be good for us?
He is very very slow, weak, can't jump, indecisive and his passing at times is suicidal!
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 16:58:14 GMT
It is an absolute travesty that Robert huth is plying his trade elsewhere. Just spoke to my lad who was at the Burnley game and when I asked him how huth played he said "huth was awesome". Huth alone will keep them up if they want it. He's going to win me thousands on a bet when he went over.
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Post by jonnybravo on Apr 25, 2015 16:58:32 GMT
Typical picking on wollscheid when even Ryan was just as poor
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Post by StokieAsh13 on Apr 25, 2015 16:58:49 GMT
Problems with the whole back 4 today not just Wolly. Good point. Will the Cameron police allow me to say he was crap again? I will he was awful! I actually thought Pieters was much better today though.
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Post by ohbottom on Apr 25, 2015 16:59:41 GMT
Problems with the whole back 4 today not just Wolly. Good point. Will the Cameron police allow me to say he was crap again? Go right ahead and say what you like! Personally, I thought he was Not Very Good, which is less bad than crap.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 25, 2015 16:59:43 GMT
I don't think it is. In possession he takes ridiculous risks and he gets beaten in way to many physical battles. Then there's his lack of pace... It's pretty sad when lil Muniesa and Wilson are more physical in chllenges and aerials than Wollscheid who isn't small. The hissy fit was also very reminiscent of Blackburn where he wanted to blame anyone after another fuck up.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 16:59:54 GMT
Problems with the whole back 4 today not just Wolly. Good point. Will the Cameron police allow me to say he was crap again? If he didn't have the pedestrian infront of him he might of had a better game with odemwingie on the line. The one-two walters fucked up with Cameron charging the box was laughable.
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Post by crowey on Apr 25, 2015 17:01:55 GMT
Bambi really did look like Bambi today
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 25, 2015 17:02:28 GMT
Good point. Will the Cameron police allow me to say he was crap again? If he didn't have the pedestrian infront of him he might of had a better game with odemwingie on the line. So just so we are clear, it was Jon's fault Geoff was crap?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:04:00 GMT
An appalling performance today, coming long after I'd made my mind up about him away at Blackburn.
There is so much wrong with his game, and it's stuff that you can't simply coach out of him.
His lack of pace is painful. Physically he is extremely weak.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 17:04:05 GMT
If he didn't have the pedestrian infront of him he might of had a better game with odemwingie on the line. So just so we are clear, it was Jon's fault Geoff was crap? No, but Walters is crap in playing a one two. Besides, Geoff didn't have the help Arnie gave pieters. Arnie had more tackles infront of the box than the entire backline did today... Huge difference in help.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:04:17 GMT
Good point. Will the Cameron police allow me to say he was crap again? If he didn't have the pedestrian infront of him he might of had a better game with odemwingie on the line. The one-two walters fucked up with Cameron charging the box was laughable. Can you not defend your man without sticking the boot into someone else? With the amount of stick some of our players are getting you'd think we are bottom of the league. Disgraceful.
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Post by Smudge_SCFC on Apr 25, 2015 17:04:51 GMT
Typical picking on wollscheid when even Ryan was just as poor Ryan wasn't great today but the undoubted weak link was Wolly. It's not treasonous to say that.
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Post by adamsson on Apr 25, 2015 17:05:49 GMT
It might have helped if the other players had moved around a bit when he was trying to pass the ball out.
Might not as well
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 25, 2015 17:06:36 GMT
It's pretty sad when lil Muniesa and Wilson are more physical in chllenges and aerials than Wollscheid who isn't small. The hissy fit was also very reminiscent of Blackburn where he wanted to blame anyone after another fuck up. The crazy thing is that it wasn't a foul. It was just shit, weak play.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 25, 2015 17:06:42 GMT
If he didn't have the pedestrian infront of him he might of had a better game with odemwingie on the line. The one-two walters fucked up with Cameron charging the box was laughable. Can you not defend your man without sticking the boot into someone else? With the amount of stick some of our players are getting you'd think we are bottom of the league. Disgraceful. I didn't say he was great. He was poor. As was Walters who was a pedestrian. Sorry you don't like the truth. Name one thing Walters contributed today besides a body... One cross, one interception... Wank.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 25, 2015 17:06:59 GMT
If only we had a good German centre half......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:06:59 GMT
It's pretty sad when lil Muniesa and Wilson are more physical in chllenges and aerials than Wollscheid who isn't small. The hissy fit was also very reminiscent of Blackburn where he wanted to blame anyone after another fuck up. What he really should have done is help up his hands and apologised. Pieters ended up pushing him in the face, he got that pissed off with him.
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Post by trigger on Apr 25, 2015 17:07:26 GMT
He's his own worse enemy, awful today, totally awfully.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 17:07:51 GMT
It might have helped if the other players had moved around a bit when he was trying to pass the ball out. Might not as well I think there is a bigger tactical issue with the way we are trying to pass the ball out as a team, rather than picking on individuals. We've seen ALL of our centre backs, including Ryan, get caught out like that this season. It's something we need to look at and tweak.
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