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Post by LGH87 on Apr 23, 2015 15:10:54 GMT
Had Bardsley's absence from the starting 11 recently been down to injury or the form of Cameron?
If I'm not mistaken I'm sure his dropping coincides with the emergence of the Rooney video, is this the reason that he's been dropped?
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Post by Robo10 on Apr 23, 2015 15:13:25 GMT
He played 3 games after that then injured his back didnt he?
Had 3 poor games from memory, I like him but a bit of a liability.
I for one was calling for GCam to go back in at right back, also offers more going forward (even if his crossing is shit - he occassionally pulls a pearler out!)
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 23, 2015 15:18:16 GMT
Bit of a strange one. No obvious trigger for it.
I've always thought he was a marginal upgrade at best - but the pecking order at least seemed settled with Geoff out of contract next summer and maybe on his way out and Bardsley contracted until 2017.
Now it all seems up in the air if Geoff retains his place.
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Post by LGH87 on Apr 23, 2015 15:19:02 GMT
He played 3 games after that then injured his back didnt he? Had 3 poor games from memory, I like him but a bit of a liability. I for one was calling for GCam to go back in at right back, also offers more going forward (even if his crossing is shit - he occassionally pulls a pearler out!) Your probably right, I just remember him being on the bench the next game after the incident came out because we were singing about it as he warmed up near the boothen. At different stages of the season I've wanted Bardsley & Cameron to start, I'm still not convinced by either of them and a right back has to be a priority in the summer. |
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Post by metalhead on Apr 23, 2015 15:21:05 GMT
I wonder if Geoff has had a change of heart regarding his positional play. I think Geoff has been very good at right back the last few games. Perhaps he's starting to embrace that role rather than reject it. Surely his dreams of being a centre back are all but over, and defensive midfield is going to be a tough one considering he's got plenty of capable competition.
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Post by southcarolinastokie on Apr 23, 2015 15:21:07 GMT
Cameron has performed better as the season has gone on. With the WC this summer, Cameron may have been a bit knackered and needed a spell out. Bardsley's form has done nothing to suggest he is a better RB than Cameron. A RB in the summer though is a must, neither of these two are good enough if we want to push higher in the league
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Post by 2004 on Apr 23, 2015 15:25:01 GMT
Cameron has been better than what Bardsley has shown recently.
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Post by redwhite on Apr 23, 2015 15:34:06 GMT
Cameron has shown on occasion that he can play the right back role very well. He's far from perfect but I'd stick with him ahead of Bardsley.
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Post by timbo1988 on Apr 23, 2015 15:35:03 GMT
He was majorly at fault for the West Brom goal and dropped after that!
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Post by obhstokie on Apr 23, 2015 15:39:40 GMT
Cameron at right back for me, but still think we need to buy a better one in the summer and move Bardsley on using Cameron as cover again like this year.
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Post by Northy on Apr 23, 2015 15:47:04 GMT
He was majorly at fault for the West Brom goal and dropped after that! I was going to say this incident probably did it as well |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 23, 2015 15:49:08 GMT
I wonder if Geoff has had a change of heart regarding his positional play. I think Geoff has been very good at right back the last few games. Perhaps he's starting to embrace that role rather than reject it. Surely his dreams of being a centre back are all but over, and defensive midfield is going to be a tough one considering he's got plenty of capable competition. Really?! I thought he was good at Chelsea but dreadful against Palace and poor on Saturday. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 23, 2015 15:56:26 GMT
I wonder if Geoff has had a change of heart regarding his positional play. I think Geoff has been very good at right back the last few games. Perhaps he's starting to embrace that role rather than reject it. Surely his dreams of being a centre back are all but over, and defensive midfield is going to be a tough one considering he's got plenty of capable competition. Really?! I thought he was good at Chelsea but dreadful against Palace and poor on Saturday. Careful. You know who will be accusing you of being you know what. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 23, 2015 16:28:55 GMT
Form, Geoff was defensively very sound at the back with the most tackles for us the otherday. He's also much faster at interlinking play and bringing the ball up to the frontline. Hughes sees the difference its had the last few games.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 23, 2015 16:53:41 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if Hughes dropped him at the weekend.
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Post by metalhead on Apr 23, 2015 16:55:07 GMT
Really?! I thought he was good at Chelsea but dreadful against Palace and poor on Saturday. Careful. You know who will be accusing you of being you know what. Come off it mate. People are allowed their opinions, but when the same people hammer one player regardless of if they play well or not? That is something else. Critical analysis is not the same as just being plain critical for shits and giggles. |
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Post by YounginStoke on Apr 23, 2015 16:58:07 GMT
It's like choosing between supporting Arsenal or United.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 17:16:57 GMT
Had Bardsley's absence from the starting 11 recently been down to injury or the form of Cameron? If I'm not mistaken I'm sure his dropping coincides with the emergence of the Rooney video, is this the reason that he's been dropped? It could be the Rooney video. Or it could be the more plausible reason that he was playing crap for a few games. It's Geoff's shirt at the moment. Despite some prematurely writing him off. Still, that's Bayern for you  |
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Post by nott1 on Apr 23, 2015 17:20:41 GMT
Injured I reckon.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Apr 23, 2015 17:21:58 GMT
Bardsley is a better player than Cameron, no matter how many times he does the "chop" achieving absolutely nothing (looks pretty though).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 17:26:12 GMT
Bardsley is a better player than Cameron, no matter how many times he does the "chop" achieving absolutely nothing (looks pretty though). If we're being honest, there's not a great deal between them. Geoff has his flaws and he's made his share of glaring errors this season. That is a reflection on Bards too though, and the fact he still hasn't managed to make the position his own. He's had many howlers, including Burnley at home where he got tore a new one. His defending away at the Baggies was atrocious too and his distribution is generally appalling. We need a new right back. |
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Post by Roy Cropper on Apr 23, 2015 17:27:37 GMT
Bardsley is a better player than Cameron, no matter how many times he does the "chop" achieving absolutely nothing (looks pretty though). If we're being honest, there's not a great deal between them. Geoff has his flaws and he's made his share of glaring errors this season. That is a reflection on Bards too though, and the fact he still hasn't managed to make the position his own. He's had many howlers, including Burnley at home where he got tore a new one. His defending away at the Baggies was atrocious too and his distribution is generally appalling. We need a new right back. He's more solid, and doesn't make daft mistakes (time and time again). In my opinion of course, and yes we do need a new one! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 17:27:44 GMT
New RB in the summer I reckon. Wilson and Geoff to be sold and Bardsley to stay as cover for RB and LB.
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Post by potterglen on Apr 23, 2015 17:40:33 GMT
Had Bardsley's absence from the starting 11 recently been down to injury or the form of Cameron? If I'm not mistaken I'm sure his dropping coincides with the emergence of the Rooney video, is this the reason that he's been dropped? He's a liability at times, might have something to do with it. |
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Post by potterglen on Apr 23, 2015 17:41:29 GMT
Bardsley is a better player than Cameron, no matter how many times he does the "chop" achieving absolutely nothing (looks pretty though). Haha, behave yourself. |
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Post by turtlefox on Apr 23, 2015 17:50:35 GMT
I'd rather keep Cameron than Bardsley. Bardsley does a good job but I think Cameron is underrated by some on here. For me he would be the one to keep but only as cover.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 23, 2015 17:58:03 GMT
Would not be too depressed if we don't bring in any new right backs as I think the two we have are OK, but in my view Cameron is the better of the two. Of course I can see that it's possible to improve our right back options, but as said they are both OK players. As things stand now I think a new winger and a defensive midfielder might be the two positions we really need to improve. Hopefully we'll buy Moses and hopefully we'll see a fully fit Odemwingie as well!  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2015 18:02:31 GMT
Had Bardsley's absence from the starting 11 recently been down to injury or the form of Cameron? If I'm not mistaken I'm sure his dropping coincides with the emergence of the Rooney video, is this the reason that he's been dropped? It could be the Rooney video. Or it could be the more plausible reason that he was playing crap for a few games. It's Geoff's shirt at the moment. Despite some prematurely writing him off. Still, that's Bayern for you 10er says he won't be here once the transfer deadline is shut in the summer.... He was shit (mainly with the ball his alleged strength) on Saturday too. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 18:04:07 GMT
It could be the Rooney video. Or it could be the more plausible reason that he was playing crap for a few games. It's Geoff's shirt at the moment. Despite some prematurely writing him off. Still, that's Bayern for you 10er says he won't be here once the transfer deadline is shut in the summer.... He was shit (mainly with the ball his alleged strength) on Saturday too. I'm surprised you haven't found a way to blame him for the goal too |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 23, 2015 18:05:47 GMT
10er says he won't be here once the transfer deadline is shut in the summer.... He was shit (mainly with the ball his alleged strength) on Saturday too. I'm surprised you haven't found a way to blame him for the goal too Wilson's fault me owd! He was about the worst outfield Stoke player for me the other day. EDIT-remembers Walters.....second worst. |
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