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Post by Danstoke82 on Apr 21, 2015 7:15:42 GMT
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 21, 2015 7:17:39 GMT
There was no way Jurgen would go for a Klopp in that toilet after Big Sam had done a double flusher.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 21, 2015 7:22:54 GMT
Their ambition is way above their station. I would love it if they sack Big Sam and immediately get relegated next season with some spanish speaking continental style manager. Just in time to move into the Olympic Stadium with crowds of 10,000 and going bankrupt.
If only Carlsberg did relegations
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2015 7:30:59 GMT
I wonder if Levy is getting twitchy fingers?
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Post by foster on Apr 21, 2015 8:43:48 GMT
Klopp.. Ha ha.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 21, 2015 8:53:01 GMT
"The club would have been prepared to keep him had results and performances been better over that period."
What utter bull shit, they've wanted him gone all season.
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Post by hammered on Apr 21, 2015 9:17:43 GMT
Their ambition is way above their station. I would love it if they sack Big Sam and immediately get relegated next season with some spanish speaking continental style manager. Just in time to move into the Olympic Stadium with crowds of 10,000 and going bankrupt. If only Carlsberg did relegations  I suppose there's the "if you don't ask you don't get" argument but if the story is true, a clear indication that Sam or the players for that matter needn't bother to get on the coach for the remaining matches. Despite the previous rumours since Christmas - another clear message West Ham are hiring - Klopp I agree would be looking for a better gig than dancing to the pornos and I doubt we could finance any of the top managers anyway. West Ham have reached the Pulis point with Sam and as you saw the other week, we barely turn up these days. Whether it's a result of the uncertainty of Sam's contract, or we fluked the first half of the season and really we're shit - nobody knows - but it feels toxic at the moment with a majority not happy with the return (entertainment) on their season ticket now wishing a return to playing football over the pragmatic stability Sam brought us. Familiar? |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 21, 2015 9:30:03 GMT
Their ambition is way above their station. I would love it if they sack Big Sam and immediately get relegated next season with some spanish speaking continental style manager. Just in time to move into the Olympic Stadium with crowds of 10,000 and going bankrupt. If only Carlsberg did relegations I suppose there's the "if you don't ask you don't get" argument but if the story is true, a clear indication that Sam or the players for that matter needn't bother to get on the coach for the remaining matches. Despite the previous rumours since Christmas - another clear message West Ham are hiring - Klopp I agree would be looking for a better gig than dancing to the pornos and I doubt we could finance any of the top managers anyway. West Ham have reached the Pulis point with Sam and as you saw the other week, we barely turn up these days. Whether it's a result of the uncertainty of Sam's contract, or we fluked the first half of the season and really we're shit - nobody knows - but it feels toxic at the moment with a majority not happy with the return (entertainment) on their season ticket now wishing a return to playing football over the pragmatic stability Sam brought us. Familiar? Fair enough. Sam and West Ham was always a match made in hell and im surprised it has lasted this long to be honest. Nothing wrong with asking Klopp to join but you should have done it on the down-low. It serves no purpose to let this out in the news other than to unsettle the existing manager and players who will no longer give a shit for the rest of the season. I wouldnt be surprised if big Sam is purposefully setting the team up to play shit as a big fuck you to the dildos. Pulis was known to do the same thing when he didnt get his way. I think Allardyce had you playing genuinely good football earlier in the season and I reckon you have as much chance with him as anyone to finish top half of the league every season. |
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Post by trebor63 on Apr 21, 2015 9:42:20 GMT
I could have sworn that within the last few days talksport announced Sam had signed a two year extension. Obviously they got it wrong or I've been having some weird dreams.
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 21, 2015 10:03:23 GMT
Aren't there so many football clubs (plus the FA and FIFA) run by complete cretins who are only in it for the power, money, lime-light, and self-engrandisement? Len Shackleton had it right in his autobiography with the chapter called "The Average Director's Knowledge of Football" - a blank page. I think the same comment now applies when summarising their ability to manage such football enterprises. It is the unfortunate that the popularity and wealth of the game attracts such buffoons to take over so many top clubs and football administrations.
Are we lucky at Stoke to have owners who are fans?
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 21, 2015 10:21:37 GMT
Their ambition is way above their station. I would love it if they sack Big Sam and immediately get relegated next season with some spanish speaking continental style manager. Just in time to move into the Olympic Stadium with crowds of 10,000 and going bankrupt. If only Carlsberg did relegations I suppose there's the "if you don't ask you don't get" argument but if the story is true, a clear indication that Sam or the players for that matter needn't bother to get on the coach for the remaining matches. Despite the previous rumours since Christmas - another clear message West Ham are hiring - Klopp I agree would be looking for a better gig than dancing to the pornos and I doubt we could finance any of the top managers anyway. West Ham have reached the Pulis point with Sam and as you saw the other week, we barely turn up these days. Whether it's a result of the uncertainty of Sam's contract, or we fluked the first half of the season and really we're shit - nobody knows - but it feels toxic at the moment with a majority not happy with the return (entertainment) on their season ticket now wishing a return to playing football over the pragmatic stability Sam brought us. Familiar? It does sound familiar in some respects yes but without wishing to re-open the Tony Pulis can of worms on this board again, I'm not sure that the bulk of our support had hang ups on the style of play per se that you lot seem to do with Big Sam. At times, our direct game under TP was a joy to behold. It was fast, it was aggressive, it was played on the front foot, it cared nothing for the oppositions reputation and it was very exciting. For me personally, and for many who I know, the style of football wasn't necessarily the problem. It was more the intent of our play (we had lost games before we even turned up away from home and that was creeping into our approach at home as well) and the fact that we were spending millions upon millions of pounds on players who a) didn't suit the way TP wanted to play and b) weren't even being utilised in the starting 11. I caught the back end of Allardyce's post match interview on Sunday and it was very Tony Pulis. Pulis, after yet another 3-0 defeat at the Etihad (where we got to their box only once in 90 minutes) was asked what it would take for him to bring a Stoke City to the Etihad and give them a game. "Give me 200m and I might be able to bring a team here that can compete" came the frosty reply. Sam said something along those lines on Sunday and it didn't wash with Stoke supporters under TP and no doubt West Ham supporters feel the same. I like West Ham as a club and was going to respond earlier to an early post that referenced West Ham playing in front of 10,000 fans, as that would never happen, as your recent flirtations with the Championship have proved. I suppose in some respects we can understand your feelings towards Big Sam but to be honest, I always thought that Big Sam is less of a dinosaur than Pulis and always saw him as a good potential alternative to TP. He has produced teams that play decent football when he's had the players at his disposal and West Ham seemed to be playing pretty well until the loss of Carroll through injury, who is a much better player than many outsiders would give him credit for. It's your club, you're entitled to your views on your manager. Many outsiders thought that I/we were mad for wanting rid of Pulis so who are we to comment on the wants of another clubs supporters? |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 21, 2015 12:13:44 GMT
There are similarities between the Pulis and Allardyce situations not least that to most 'outsiders' of your club, Allardyce is doing a perfectly acceptable job. Promotion,10th,12th and most likely 12th or 13th again doesn't strike most people as a sacking offence by any stretch. The fact us unless you're a West Ham fan, you just don't see the full picture. To me it looks like you bought some decent players in, in the Summer and after a good start your season has just petered out, which happens to lots of clubs every season.
I'd be more worried that your owners are chasing pie in the sky targets like Klopp to be honest. That says to me they haven't got a fucking clue what their next move is if they do get rid of a safe pair of hands like Fat Sam.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 21, 2015 12:23:44 GMT
It's a well known fact that if you get rid of your ultra pragmatic manager you will go down. There is no way you will improve your results, league position, number of goals scored, style of play and general entertainment. All you'll get is some tippy-tappy shit and get relegated.
Is that what you want? Is it?
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Post by deliasmith on Apr 21, 2015 12:25:29 GMT
Pulis wasn't let go because of the style of play. The directors and associated influential family members had been signalling for ages that they were not happy with his spending, and I think they detected an unpleasant aroma coming on the breeze from Poole. Big Sam, of course, is quite a different kettle of fish. Driven snow isn't in it.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 21, 2015 12:29:17 GMT
It's a well known fact that if you get rid of your ultra pragmatic manager you will go down. There is no way you will improve your results, league position, number of goals scored, style of play and general entertainment. All you'll get is some tippy-tappy shit and get relegated. Is that what you want? Is it? The Coates family did their due diligence though. It sounds like Dil & Do are just throwing shit in the air and hope it comes down wearing a diamond ring. There are loads of managers who could do better jobs at their respective clubs than Allardyce and Pulis. However, there are far, far more managers that couldn't. |
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Post by kustokie on Apr 21, 2015 12:41:57 GMT
Their ambition is way above their station. I would love it if they sack Big Sam and immediately get relegated next season with some spanish speaking continental style manager. Just in time to move into the Olympic Stadium with crowds of 10,000 and going bankrupt. If only Carlsberg did relegations I suppose there's the "if you don't ask you don't get" argument but if the story is true, a clear indication that Sam or the players for that matter needn't bother to get on the coach for the remaining matches. Despite the previous rumours since Christmas - another clear message West Ham are hiring - Klopp I agree would be looking for a better gig than dancing to the pornos and I doubt we could finance any of the top managers anyway. West Ham have reached the Pulis point with Sam and as you saw the other week, we barely turn up these days. Whether it's a result of the uncertainty of Sam's contract, or we fluked the first half of the season and really we're shit - nobody knows - but it feels toxic at the moment with a majority not happy with the return (entertainment) on their season ticket now wishing a return to playing football over the pragmatic stability Sam brought us. Familiar? Hammered: For what it's worth I went to the match with my mate and we had a great time. Last time time we were there was in the 70s! The atmosphere was so much better than in one of the new, sterile stadiums (dare I say like the old days). We are planning to go back next season to experience the atmosphere for the last time. What's the general feeling about moving to the Olympic Stadium? |
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Post by metalhead on Apr 21, 2015 12:54:21 GMT
Their ambition is way above their station. I would love it if they sack Big Sam and immediately get relegated next season with some spanish speaking continental style manager. Just in time to move into the Olympic Stadium with crowds of 10,000 and going bankrupt. If only Carlsberg did relegations If Carlsberg did relegations, it'd be West Ham, Arsenal, and Liverpool. I'd fucking cum in my pants. |
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Post by pyrus on Apr 21, 2015 13:08:43 GMT
WHU used Allardyce to stabilise their Premiership status until they got to their new ground. But his contract has come to an end with a year to go. They can't offer him a new contract because he will want one for longer than the year it will take them to move home. So they need a brand shiny new manager a year early. This new manager needs to produce football played by eleven standard Premiership players as if they were eleven Cruyffs.
Trouble is, there are only 17 managers per season who can keep a club in the Premiership. Only about twelve of those are guaranteed to do that and Sam is one of them. This leaves a small pool of domestically based managers. If they want one that produces football 'the West Ham way' then you have even fewer to go at, all of whom are happily employed elsewhere. So they will probably go for someone currently working abroad.
Why do I suspect that Harry Redknapp and his knees were lined up for this weeks ago?
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Post by thestatusquo on Apr 21, 2015 13:10:09 GMT
Their ambition is way above their station. I would love it if they sack Big Sam and immediately get relegated next season with some spanish speaking continental style manager. Just in time to move into the Olympic Stadium with crowds of 10,000 and going bankrupt. If only Carlsberg did relegations Martinez has been linked apparently. |
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Post by onionman on Apr 21, 2015 13:23:40 GMT
Their ambition is way above their station. I would love it if they sack Big Sam and immediately get relegated next season with some spanish speaking continental style manager. Just in time to move into the Olympic Stadium with crowds of 10,000 and going bankrupt. If only Carlsberg did relegations I suppose there's the "if you don't ask you don't get" argument but if the story is true, a clear indication that Sam or the players for that matter needn't bother to get on the coach for the remaining matches. Despite the previous rumours since Christmas - another clear message West Ham are hiring - Klopp I agree would be looking for a better gig than dancing to the pornos and I doubt we could finance any of the top managers anyway. West Ham have reached the Pulis point with Sam and as you saw the other week, we barely turn up these days. Whether it's a result of the uncertainty of Sam's contract, or we fluked the first half of the season and really we're shit - nobody knows - but it feels toxic at the moment with a majority not happy with the return (entertainment) on their season ticket now wishing a return to playing football over the pragmatic stability Sam brought us. Familiar? When Big Sam was proving everyone wrong with his free-flowing attack-minded football, it had a definite ring of Pulis in the good spells. At the time, it feels like he's finally cracked it, but all it takes is a couple of injuries or loss of form to key men, or simply the opposing managers double-marking the key men, and it unravels pretty quickly. And then you have the frustration of watching lacklustre football while knowing things don't actually have to be like this. From the outside looking in, it seems to have unfolded in a similar way at West Ham. Where is Russell Brand now by the way? He was loving a piece of the action earlier in the season. |
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Post by stokiejoe on Apr 21, 2015 13:25:10 GMT
The biggest problem Sam faces is that he has all but been told he's going, his contract is up in June? or a year at most. That must have an effect on the players as it totally undermines his authority. A lesser man than Sam would have walked out by now. Big Sam is what he is just as Pulis is, and that isn't meant disrespectfully. Both are managers who have demonstrated that they can get you up and keep you up.
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Post by rednwhite43 on Apr 21, 2015 17:01:10 GMT
Deluded or what, correct me if im wrong but when we played them at the brit im sure i heard there lot singing. ......we're gonna win the league. ...... hee hee
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 21, 2015 21:57:34 GMT
They might be owned by a couple of knobheads but you can't argue with is.... Olympic Stadium |
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