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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 20, 2015 9:53:32 GMT
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 20, 2015 10:20:12 GMT
Always comes across well - as Hughes said post-match, he actually seems to really like football, which is probably rarer than you'd think.
Seems a nice, affable bloke.
Still got some doubts about whether he'll be here next year though, as he enters his final year.
Some interesting contractual decisions coming up on Cameron, Wilson and Adam
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 20, 2015 10:27:27 GMT
Good listen, that.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 20, 2015 10:30:41 GMT
I wouldn't give Charlie another contract to be honest and would happily cash in on him this Summer. He brings probably half a dozen goals a season to the party and some intelligent passing, but his all-round game is too slow and his tackling non-existent. He's a bit of a cult figure I guess and other fans love to hate him, but, like Crouchie, his approach and style jars with what Hughes seems to be attempting to build.
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Post by mailman44 on Apr 20, 2015 10:32:32 GMT
In the Florida Oatcake Supporters Association our Charlie is always voted "Stoke player you'd like to throw a few jars back with at your local". Top lad who can hold his ale.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Apr 20, 2015 10:36:23 GMT
I wouldn't give Charlie another contract to be honest and would happily cash in on him this Summer. He brings probably half a dozen goals a season to the party and some intelligent passing, but his all-round game is too slow and his tackling non-existent. He's a bit of a cult figure I guess and other fans love to hate him, but, like Crouchie, his approach and style jars with what Hughes seems to be attempting to build. The manager is pretty gushing about him here www.stokesentinel.co.uk/Stoke-City/story-26356943-detail/story.htmlDoesn't look good in terms of a new contract though if there's nothing on the table by now. I presume they wont just let him run it down either? |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 20, 2015 10:41:36 GMT
If he is happy with a regular sub appearance from the bench I would give him a new contract for sure.
Hes the best game-changer we have when things are going well and we want to go Gung-Ho. Him and Crouchy really offer us a plan B and I think Hughes knows that Charles is well worth keeping.
To be honest I dont understand why Stoke fans want him gone. I think we will regret it if he leaves
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 20, 2015 10:46:22 GMT
He'd probably be happy to stay without a contract if we were fine with that as he'd leave as a free agent and get a pretty good deal for one big final payday. Or, we sell him for £4 million (?) and add a few million more and buy another midfielder. I'm sure there would be a few takers.
On another note, whilst he may come over as a good bloke, I have a very good friend who supports Blackpool and doesn't speak quite as highly, so there are always two sides……...
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Post by stokiejoe on Apr 20, 2015 10:46:36 GMT
Anybody listening to that must admire the way Charlie conducts himself. A lesson for a lot of players there. Wouldn't start him in many matches but he has shown he can make an impact coming off the bench so not wanting to throw that away unless we have a better replacement.
Very interesting comments about how big this summer transfer window will be in terms of moving on. Hopefully we could be in for a treat. My understanding is that we get about £75m if we finish 9th so no reason not to spend. The rewards from 2016/17 are even greater as 9th could be looking at £145m.
Standing still isn't a sensible option
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Post by agingerstokie on Apr 20, 2015 10:46:49 GMT
if he is sold it better be to an overseas team I would cry seeing one of his screamers go in our net
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Post by capto on Apr 20, 2015 11:13:40 GMT
He has his faults, but I can't think of another player we have that could have scored the second on Sat, bringing it down, when it was a bit behind him, and drilling it in?
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Post by Gods on Apr 20, 2015 11:26:36 GMT
I wouldn't give Charlie another contract to be honest and would happily cash in on him this Summer. He brings probably half a dozen goals a season to the party and some intelligent passing, but his all-round game is too slow and his tackling non-existent. He's a bit of a cult figure I guess and other fans love to hate him, but, like Crouchie, his approach and style jars with what Hughes seems to be attempting to build. Don't underestimate that. I'll hazard a guess, without looking it up, that however many Prem goals Charlie does have this season is more than all our other midfield options put together. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 20, 2015 11:52:43 GMT
I wouldn't give Charlie another contract to be honest and would happily cash in on him this Summer. He brings probably half a dozen goals a season to the party and some intelligent passing, but his all-round game is too slow and his tackling non-existent. He's a bit of a cult figure I guess and other fans love to hate him, but, like Crouchie, his approach and style jars with what Hughes seems to be attempting to build. Don't underestimate that. I'll hazard a guess, without looking it up, that however many Prem goals Charlie does have this season is more than all our other midfield options put together. Suppose it depends what you classify that 'number 10' role as though? And whether Adam will ever be trusted to play, consistently, in a deeper role than that from the start of a game? He played further back for the first time in an age against Palace, and had one of his best games in a Stoke shirt. But it seems to have been pretty much a one-off. Bojan got 5 from that advanced role in the 7 or 8 weeks we really saw him flourish, and hopefully will start whenever available there next year. If Charlie's happy to be primarily a supersub, and is happy to extend his contract in the knowledge that he'll mainly be chucked on when we need a bit of something from the bench, we'd be fools to move him on - but he may have eyes to move on to somewhere where he's more of a regular? We certainly do need more goals from out wide, with only Walters a threat. And will he play as much next year? It'll be interesting to see where Odemwingie will fit in. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 20, 2015 11:56:00 GMT
I wouldn't give Charlie another contract to be honest and would happily cash in on him this Summer. He brings probably half a dozen goals a season to the party and some intelligent passing, but his all-round game is too slow and his tackling non-existent. He's a bit of a cult figure I guess and other fans love to hate him, but, like Crouchie, his approach and style jars with what Hughes seems to be attempting to build. Half a dozen goals is pretty bloody good from a mid table midfielder |
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Post by jimmygscfc on Apr 20, 2015 12:32:08 GMT
I agree and we're short of goals from other midfielders so I don't underestimate the value. However, I only see him working in a three man midfield with N'Zonzi and a holding midfielder. Add Bojan to the mix and we then have one winger to play along with Diouf (or any other striker). I can't see how it would work with no presence on the right if we have Moses or Arnie on the left….
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Post by lordb on Apr 20, 2015 12:35:59 GMT
I like him as the deepest player in our midfield 3
i.e. instead of Whelan.
However that is clearly only going to be appropriate in some games & not others.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 20, 2015 12:38:58 GMT
I agree and we're short of goals from other midfielders so I don't underestimate the value. However, I only see him working in a three man midfield with N'Zonzi and a holding midfielder. Add Bojan to the mix and we then have one winger to play along with Diouf (or any other striker). I can't see how it would work with no presence on the right if we have Moses or Arnie on the left…. There are very few games I would start him, but time and again he proves what a valuable player he can be coming off the bench. If he is happy with this state of affairs they we really should keep him |
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Post by kustokie on Apr 20, 2015 12:51:11 GMT
I like him as the deepest player in our midfield 3 i.e. instead of Whelan. However that is clearly only going to be appropriate in some games & not others. IMO a bit too risky playing Charlie in that position because he can't tackle and would give up a lot of free kicks in dangerous areas, not to mentioning picking up yellow and red cards. |
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Apr 20, 2015 13:14:55 GMT
At home, in the absence of Bojan, Charlie would always be in my starting 11 and would make a decent chunk of away starts too.
If he's having a stinker then haul him off at HT, but def start him over Ireland
He is the only genuinely positive midfielder we have. Every time he gets the ball he wants to turn toward goal and play an incisive pass or take a shot. At home against the lesser lates of this division he is exactly what is required.
Not only that but he will bag you 6-8 goals per season and they tend to be key goals as well. look through his goals for us and a decent old chunk of them are 3 pointers like saturdays, winners in tight games.
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Post by mrred on Apr 20, 2015 14:35:52 GMT
I know there's nothing to read into, but it never sits comfortably with me when a player refers to their club as 'they' rather than 'us'.
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Post by DannyStokie on Apr 20, 2015 14:51:45 GMT
He did actually say "we" a few times, and he wasn't referring to small things.
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Post by sutt on Apr 20, 2015 14:57:46 GMT
Don't see it as a bad thing that he is in the last year of his contract now, often this inspires players to perform better to either get a new deal or look a decent offering to other clubs. I'd have him in my side every week in cm, lads a match winner, as the comment above says he's bagged some important goals for us. Start him satdee with Nzonzi or in the 10 if Ireland's not fit
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Post by Plave on Apr 20, 2015 15:03:31 GMT
We need to keep him, if we are to push on we need 5 or 6 midfielders pushing for a place in the starting 3 and he's more than good enough to be one of them.
For me he wouldn't be a main starter but 7-10 starts and 15 or more sub apps (decent ones, 20 mins plus) in the league is where I can see him, which probably isn't too different than he's done this year. You can't underestimate half a dozen goals from a none regular starter either, how many players have done that for us in the premier league era? Let's have some realism eh.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 22:16:13 GMT
Don't underestimate that. I'll hazard a guess, without looking it up, that however many Prem goals Charlie does have this season is more than all our other midfield options put together. Suppose it depends what you classify that 'number 10' role as though? And whether Adam will ever be trusted to play, consistently, in a deeper role than that from the start of a game? He played further back for the first time in an age against Palace, and had one of his best games in a Stoke shirt. But it seems to have been pretty much a one-off. Bojan got 5 from that advanced role in the 7 or 8 weeks we really saw him flourish, and hopefully will start whenever available there next year. If Charlie's happy to be primarily a supersub, and is happy to extend his contract in the knowledge that he'll mainly be chucked on when we need a bit of something from the bench, we'd be fools to move him on - but he may have eyes to move on to somewhere where he's more of a regular? We certainly do need more goals from out wide, with only Walters a threat. And will he play as much next year? It'll be interesting to see where Odemwingie will fit in. I'd start him in that deeper role that he played in vs palace next year against some of the lower teams, especially at home, in games we're hoping to dominate and don't need the anchor man role Whelan plays. Especially considering we often struggle to break down these teams (see villa, leicester, burnley etc.) and could do with someone who can pull a goal or a brilliant assist from nowhere. |
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Post by likelyladgalizmo on Apr 20, 2015 22:24:49 GMT
Hope he stays. Best attacking midfielder since King Kav IMO.
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Post by mailman44 on Apr 20, 2015 23:00:06 GMT
Charlie Adam = Legend
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Post by RWChris on Apr 20, 2015 23:22:23 GMT
Interestingly, Charlie is our 4th top goalscorer in terms of PL goals.
Only Ric, Crouchy & SJW have more...
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Post by CalgaryPotter on Apr 21, 2015 3:46:01 GMT
Interestingly, Charlie is our 4th top goalscorer in terms of PL goals. Only Ric, Crouchy & SJW have more... That's a sad indictment of how shite our goal scoring has been over the past 6 years  |
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