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Post by blurtonstokie on Apr 5, 2015 17:54:15 GMT
When Gladbach beat bayern away two week ago the lad run the show.
The Germans av got a wealth of good young players. Think the the Bundesliga is the place to shop. Think if Greg Dyke is thinking of revamping or making changes to the youth set up he should try and get some German input
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 17:54:34 GMT
RB - Sam Bryan Defensive Midfielder - Johannes Geis/Niklas Stark Winger - Julian Draxler/Vaclav Cerny/Bernard Striker - Aleksandar Mitrovic/Vincent Aboubakar Draxler's a £40m Arsenal target, forget him. Like the look of Mitrovic from what I've seen. Mitrovic won't be far off a top side. He'd be in the 10-15M bracket. Hitting 1 in 2 for Anderlecht and in the Champions League.
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Post by Jimm on Apr 5, 2015 17:58:14 GMT
He is shit, very skint mans NZonzi. Always seems to be in relegation teams Lol fair enough, each to their own
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Post by iamcliveclarke on Apr 5, 2015 18:00:09 GMT
Don't think we should sign Wolli either, why settle for him if he's not pulling up trees? Should be aiming for better while we've already got a two first choice in my book with Ryan and Muni
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 5, 2015 19:04:51 GMT
Draxler's a £40m Arsenal target, forget him. Like the look of Mitrovic from what I've seen. Mitrovic won't be far off a top side. He'd be in the 10-15M bracket. Hitting 1 in 2 for Anderlecht and in the Champions League. Possibly, but he's been linked to Newcastle and Swansea and hot property Dutch and Belgian players often end up at middling Prem clubs.
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Post by nutterpotter on Apr 6, 2015 9:35:24 GMT
Looks perfect
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 10:05:17 GMT
In
John Souttar (Dundee United) £2.5m Alex Mowatt (Leeds Utd) £3.5m Sam Byram (Leeds Utd) £4.5m Victor Moses (Chelsea) £6m Sergi Roberto (Barcelona) Loan Adam Traore (Barcelona) Loan Phillip Wollscheid (Leverkusen) £3m Bas Dost (Wolfsburg) £15m
Funded by Sir Peter and the £10m sale of Asmir Begovic...........
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Post by blurtonstokie on Apr 6, 2015 10:28:10 GMT
Think the one thing most will agree on is that we are still looking for that 15-20 a goal a season man. I like Diouf but he reminds me too much od Ade Akinbeye. But to find a top foward we have got to be prepared to pay top dollar and have a list of targets already. I cnt see much point in trying bring in players like Bamford(i like the lad) who might cut it and chucking say £6mil at him. The time as come for s to take the plunge and spend on a proven player.
Jst whilst folk are on about Wolli. I like him but dnt think we shud sign him. Huth for me shud come bk. And we should look at bringng a young lad in on loan. I like the lad Aky from chelsea. Be very decent move for us.
But its jst my view
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Post by march4 on Apr 6, 2015 10:35:48 GMT
With Sorro going and Butland not yet ready, goalkeeper is already the main area to strengthen. If Bego goes we will have to spend major money in this area.
I can see only one expensive signing this summer and that should be Moses. However, it might have to be a keeper instead.
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Post by stokiejack on Apr 6, 2015 10:50:59 GMT
IN: Delofeu £6 million Moses £5 million Fer £6 million Tripper £5 million Ings Free Adama Traore Loan Wollscheid £3 million
Spend £25 million
OUT: Begovic £16 million Adam £4 million Palacios Free
Transfers in: £20 million
Butland
Trippier Shawcross muniesa pieters
Fer N'Zonzi
Delofeu Bojan Moses
Ings
Sub: Sorenson Arnautovic Adama Crouch Wollscheid Cameron Diouf
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 10:53:03 GMT
IN: Delofeu £6 million Moses £5 million Fer £6 million Tripper £5 million Ings Free Adama Traore Loan Wollscheid £3 million Spend £25 million OUT: Begovic £16 million Adam £4 million Palacios Free Transfers in: £20 million Butland Trippier Shawcross muniesa pieters Fer N'Zonzi Delofeu Bojan Moses Ings Sub: Sorenson Arnautovic Adama Crouch Wollscheid Cameron Diouf Ings won't be free as he's under 24 and he won't be coming here.
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Post by bolders on Apr 6, 2015 15:04:26 GMT
IN: Delofeu £6 million Moses £5 million Fer £6 million Tripper £5 million Ings Free Adama Traore Loan Wollscheid £3 million Spend £25 million OUT: Begovic £16 million Adam £4 million Palacios Free Transfers in: £20 million Butland Trippier Shawcross muniesa pieters Fer N'Zonzi Delofeu Bojan Moses Ings Sub: Sorenson Arnautovic Adama Crouch Wollscheid Cameron Diouf Ings won't be free as he's under 24 and he won't be coming here. Ings should cost between 2-3 mil compensation, we should be in for him though cause not many teams above us will give him first team football. If he wants to go to liverpool and sit on the bench or not even make it and eventually ruin his career then h is an idiot there have been numerous players going to big team ad not playing only to slip down he leagues
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 15:09:20 GMT
Bego signs new contract. Moses signs contract. Bojan fully fit. Wolfie signs. New DM signs. Traore signs. Austin signs. Rhodes signs.
That would do me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 15:32:17 GMT
Ings won't be free as he's under 24 and he won't be coming here. Ings should cost between 2-3 mil compensation, we should be in for him though cause not many teams above us will give him first team football. If he wants to go to liverpool and sit on the bench or not even make it and eventually ruin his career then h is an idiot there have been numerous players going to big team ad not playing only to slip down he leagues It will go to a tribunal and I reckon you'd be looking at between 6 and 10M for him.
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Post by nott1 on Apr 6, 2015 15:41:49 GMT
I'd rather let Wolfie go myself(The Bismark was more nimble) and bring Huth back in.
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Post by bolders on Apr 6, 2015 15:44:22 GMT
Ings should cost between 2-3 mil compensation, we should be in for him though cause not many teams above us will give him first team football. If he wants to go to liverpool and sit on the bench or not even make it and eventually ruin his career then h is an idiot there have been numerous players going to big team ad not playing only to slip down he leagues It will go to a tribunal and I reckon you'd be looking at between 6 and 10M for him. has it ever been that big of a fee in a tribunal?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 15:55:25 GMT
It will go to a tribunal and I reckon you'd be looking at between 6 and 10M for him. has it ever been that big of a fee in a tribunal? Has there ever been a bigger transfer at a tribunal?
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Post by bolders on Apr 6, 2015 16:09:31 GMT
Remember the Bostock one from palace that didnt make it to a mill i know it was 2008 but the hype about him was bigger than Ings
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Post by AlliG on Apr 6, 2015 18:14:06 GMT
Remember the Bostock one from palace that didnt make it to a mill i know it was 2008 but the hype about him was bigger than Ings Lets see: 4 appearances no goals versus 114 games & 43 goals. I think proven ability might be a bit more expensive than potential.
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Post by liathroid on Apr 6, 2015 18:52:47 GMT
Draxler is way too good for us. Dost is playing spectacularly well for the 2nd placed side in Germany. Yarmolenko is wanted by Paris Saint-Germain... its a Carlsberg window ,its all pretend
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Post by upthefud on Apr 7, 2015 17:00:52 GMT
So the general consensus is Whelan needs replacing and Arnie is doing just fine then?
Absolute madness some of these posts.
Begovic
Bardsley Shawcross Wolly Pieters
Whelan N'Zonzi
Bolasie Bojan Moses
Austin/Benteke
That's the dream team but Walters would still have a big part to play.
Try and get fees for Sidwell, either Adam or Ireland and Arnie
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 7, 2015 17:06:09 GMT
So the general consensus is Whelan needs replacing and Arnie is doing just fine then? Absolute madness some of these posts. Begovic Bardsley Shawcross Wolly Pieters Whelan N'Zonzi Bolasie Bojan Moses Austin/Benteke That's the dream team but Walters would still have a big part to play. Try and get fees for Sidwell, either Adam or Ireland and Arnie Whelan will still have an important part to play, but he's in his 30s now, he's had a few injuries and we're approaching the time when he'll be perhaps more of a squad option/rotated player than a nailed on starter every week (which he is by default at the moment because nobody at the club can play that position anything like as well). Arnie is hit and miss but he's got talent and is a good option to have - he needs competition, not replacing IMO.
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Post by upthefud on Apr 7, 2015 19:30:28 GMT
So the general consensus is Whelan needs replacing and Arnie is doing just fine then? Absolute madness some of these posts. Begovic Bardsley Shawcross Wolly Pieters Whelan N'Zonzi Bolasie Bojan Moses Austin/Benteke That's the dream team but Walters would still have a big part to play. Try and get fees for Sidwell, either Adam or Ireland and Arnie Whelan will still have an important part to play, but he's in his 30s now, he's had a few injuries and we're approaching the time when he'll be perhaps more of a squad option/rotated player than a nailed on starter every week (which he is by default at the moment because nobody at the club can play that position anything like as well). Arnie is hit and miss but he's got talent and is a good option to have - he needs competition, not replacing IMO. I worry about replacing the spine. Whelan is our vice captain and so underrated. One of our top 5 performers yet again. Arnie has had competition. He's been unable to displace Diouf or SJW on the right wing. He's consistently struggled to make an impact when given a chance in the team. I think Hughes has lost patience, after all Arnie is supposed to be our best defensive winger yet he still couldn't start at Stamford Bridge when he had his two rivals playing up front and Moses was ineligible..
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Post by chiefdelilah on Apr 7, 2015 19:38:06 GMT
Whelan will still have an important part to play, but he's in his 30s now, he's had a few injuries and we're approaching the time when he'll be perhaps more of a squad option/rotated player than a nailed on starter every week (which he is by default at the moment because nobody at the club can play that position anything like as well). Arnie is hit and miss but he's got talent and is a good option to have - he needs competition, not replacing IMO. I worry about replacing the spine. Whelan is our vice captain and so underrated. One of our top 5 performers yet again. Arnie has had competition. He's been unable to displace Diouf or SJW on the right wing. He's consistently struggled to make an impact when given a chance in the team. I think Hughes has lost patience, after all Arnie is supposed to be our best defensive winger yet he still couldn't start at Stamford Bridge when he had his two rivals playing up front and Moses was ineligible.. I don't buy that - why lose patience now when he was just starting to play his way back into a bit of form? I'm not talking about getting rid of Whelan, I'm sure he'll play plenty of games next season. I still think it's possible to find an upgrade as good as he's been for us though, and it's a good time to look now, while Glenn's still got a season or two in him, than when his legs have gone.
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Post by upthefud on Apr 7, 2015 20:18:07 GMT
I worry about replacing the spine. Whelan is our vice captain and so underrated. One of our top 5 performers yet again. Arnie has had competition. He's been unable to displace Diouf or SJW on the right wing. He's consistently struggled to make an impact when given a chance in the team. I think Hughes has lost patience, after all Arnie is supposed to be our best defensive winger yet he still couldn't start at Stamford Bridge when he had his two rivals playing up front and Moses was ineligible.. I don't buy that - why lose patience now when he was just starting to play his way back into a bit of form? I'm not talking about getting rid of Whelan, I'm sure he'll play plenty of games next season. I still think it's possible to find an upgrade as good as he's been for us though, and it's a good time to look now, while Glenn's still got a season or two in him, than when his legs have gone. Arnies "little bit of form" is still not a patch on SJW's performances from the wing this season. Arnie simply has done enough and in a dream transfer thread he has to be one of those in serious risk of losing his place.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Apr 7, 2015 20:54:46 GMT
Christian Benteke.
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