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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 30, 2015 19:40:35 GMT
Huddy was the first to moan when someone implied possible reasons for being an ex teacher And now he seems to be doing the same based on a party or maybe a given speech What a guy As usual you fail to read my OP properly. No real surprise there.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 30, 2015 19:41:22 GMT
Powell's name was bandied around in the past whenever the Kincorra Childrens Home Abuse was mentioned..that's been common knowledge for decades. Owd Enoch had strong links with Northern Ireland. Powell later went on to become an Ulster Unionist MP and the rumours again re-surfaced. Always thought he was very creepy. .a bit sinister and the man who invented Thatcherism before Mrs Thatcher had even become Prime Minister. A supply side monetarist follower of economics.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Mar 30, 2015 19:42:32 GMT
Powell's name was bandied around in the past whenever the Kincorra Childrens Home Abuse was mentioned..that's been common knowledge for decades. Owd Enoch had strong links with Northern Ireland. Powell later went on to become an Ulster Unionist MP and the rumours again re-surfaced. Always thought he was very creepy. .a bit sinister..despite all the adoration from his fans. Indeed...seems he still has a few on here.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 30, 2015 19:44:13 GMT
Hardly surprising. .so has Hitler probably ;-)
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Post by salopstick on Mar 30, 2015 19:59:08 GMT
Powell's name was bandied around in the past whenever the Kincorra Childrens Home Abuse was mentioned..that's been common knowledge for decades. Owd Enoch had strong links with Northern Ireland. Powell later went on to become an Ulster Unionist MP and the rumours again re-surfaced. Always thought he was very creepy. .a bit sinister and the man who invented Thatcherism before Mrs Thatcher had even become Prime Minister. A supply side monetarist follower of economics. So if the story is based on events of the 80s it should be DUP MP Enoch Powell
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Post by ukcstokie on Mar 30, 2015 20:04:08 GMT
Huddy was the first to moan when someone implied possible reasons for being an ex teacher And now he seems to be doing the same based on a party or maybe a given speech What a guy As usual you fail to read my OP properly. No real surprise there. So you're not trying to point score based on this alleged despicable act then?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 30, 2015 20:06:14 GMT
Am not sure whether Enoch was DUP or Ulster Unionist back then but I'm fairly certain he had left the Conservative Party.
People always remember Powell for his 'River Tiber foaming with blood' speech..but they forget he was the Architect of 'Thatcherism'..not Keith Joseph or Alan Walters. (No relation to SJW) and for some, that was his real achievement.
Ahead of his time?
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Post by salopstick on Mar 30, 2015 20:06:49 GMT
You don't have to agree with his politics to know he was a man who stood by his principles regardless of consequences to him. In that regards he is very much of the ilk of tony Benn
"Their brains should have told them that a man of Enoch’s controversial reputation would never for a moment have got away with the type of behaviour they are alleging he indulged in during the 1980s. The Establishment turned against Enoch in 1968 after the so-called Rivers of Blood speech; it would never have protected him for a second had it detected the slightest whiff of scandal."
Sal you may be right. Throw this out there to deflect from others
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 30, 2015 20:11:55 GMT
You don't have to agree with his politics to know he was a man who stood by his principles regardless of consequences to him. In that regards he is very much of the ilk of tony Benn "Their brains should have told them that a man of Enoch’s controversial reputation would never for a moment have got away with the type of behaviour they are alleging he indulged in during the 1980s. The Establishment turned against Enoch in 1968 after the so-called Rivers of Blood speech; it would never have protected him for a second had it detected the slightest whiff of scandal." Sal you may be right. Throw this out there to deflect from others Before he made that speech he was warned not to...the script had already been passed to Conservative Party Central Office and they were terrified of the repercussions. In those days Powell was seen as a better choice of leader than Heath, whom many Tories despised. Powell was hard Right, Heath soft Left. Despite that Powell went on to deliver the speech and committ political suicide.
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Post by salopstick on Mar 30, 2015 20:32:15 GMT
You don't have to agree with his politics to know he was a man who stood by his principles regardless of consequences to him. In that regards he is very much of the ilk of tony Benn "Their brains should have told them that a man of Enoch’s controversial reputation would never for a moment have got away with the type of behaviour they are alleging he indulged in during the 1980s. The Establishment turned against Enoch in 1968 after the so-called Rivers of Blood speech; it would never have protected him for a second had it detected the slightest whiff of scandal." Sal you may be right. Throw this out there to deflect from others Before he made that speech he was warned not to...the script had already been passed to Conservative Party Central Office and they were terrified of the repercussions. In those days Powell was seen as a better choice of leader than Heath, whom many Tories despised. Powell was hard Right, Heath soft Left. Despite that Powell went on to deliver the speech and committ political suicide. Exactly right or wrong he did what he thought right. Some of his views have been proved right. Some of his His opinions on eec, Falklands etc are routinely repeated by others today
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2015 20:35:22 GMT
You don't have to agree with his politics to know he was a man who stood by his principles regardless of consequences to him. In that regards he is very much of the ilk of tony Benn "Their brains should have told them that a man of Enoch’s controversial reputation would never for a moment have got away with the type of behaviour they are alleging he indulged in during the 1980s. The Establishment turned against Enoch in 1968 after the so-called Rivers of Blood speech; it would never have protected him for a second had it detected the slightest whiff of scandal." Sal you may be right. Throw this out there to deflect from others Before he made that speech he was warned not to...the script had already been passed to Conservative Party Central Office and they were terrified of the repercussions. In those days Powell was seen as a better choice of leader than Heath, whom many Tories despised. Powell was hard Right, Heath soft Left. Despite that Powell went on to deliver the speech and committ political suicide. Ted Heath was he not a bit on the iffy side certainly got shafted by the NUM, Thatcher exacted revenge though with the help of our wonderful Police force.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 30, 2015 20:38:27 GMT
Before he made that speech he was warned not to...the script had already been passed to Conservative Party Central Office and they were terrified of the repercussions. In those days Powell was seen as a better choice of leader than Heath, whom many Tories despised. Powell was hard Right, Heath soft Left. Despite that Powell went on to deliver the speech and committ political suicide. Ted Heath was he not a bit on the iffy side certainly got shafted by the NUM, Thatcher exacted revenge though with the help of our wonderful Police force. Everyone got shafted by the NUM especially it's own members
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2015 20:39:32 GMT
Before he made that speech he was warned not to...the script had already been passed to Conservative Party Central Office and they were terrified of the repercussions. In those days Powell was seen as a better choice of leader than Heath, whom many Tories despised. Powell was hard Right, Heath soft Left. Despite that Powell went on to deliver the speech and committ political suicide. Exactly right or wrong he did what he thought right. Some of his views have been proved right. Some of his His opinions on eec, Falklands etc are routinely repeated by others today An intellectual version of Arthur Scargill both mocked and derided for their prophecies, both pretty close to the truth in hindsight though from different ends of the political spectrum, both mad as a bucket of frogs or were they
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2015 20:43:09 GMT
Ted Heath was he not a bit on the iffy side certainly got shafted by the NUM, Thatcher exacted revenge though with the help of our wonderful Police force. Everyone got shafted by the NUM especially it's own members Ask the ex miners of their opinion of Thatcher if you want a true comparison
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Post by RichieBarkerOut! on Mar 30, 2015 20:59:33 GMT
It gets me, how people go on about paedos here and paedos there, and how unsafe it is to be a child these days, but it strikes me that I must have got through the 70's unscathed. I'm more and more convinced that it's safer to be a child now, that it's ever been! Seeing that Huddy has come up with such a spurious political points scoring vehicle, how about certain Labour connections to the Paedophile Information Exchange? I'm not scoring points at all. I'm pointing out that yet another politician from the past is now being investigated. I made no accusations that he's guilty, simply that he is under investigation. I do wish you and other would read my OP properly. I'm sorry, you're correct. I seem to have mistaken you for a political opportunist.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 30, 2015 21:23:12 GMT
Ted Heath was he not a bit on the iffy side certainly got shafted by the NUM, Thatcher exacted revenge though with the help of our wonderful Police force. Everyone got shafted by the NUM especially it's own members Yeah..that's why they got redundancy payments on average of £30,000 when Thatcher closed the Mining Industry down. And that's the reason the Tories hate the NUM because they fought for their members and massively improved their pay and conditions. And we don't want any of that do we? Just turn the clock back 50 years..and the only way to do that is Divide and Rule and Smash the Unions.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 30, 2015 21:28:26 GMT
Everyone got shafted by the NUM especially it's own members Yeah..that's why they got redundancy payments on average of £30,000 when Thatcher closed the Mining Industry down. And that's the reason the Tories hate the NUM because they fought for their members and massively improved their pay and conditions. And we don't want any of that do we? Just turn the clock back 50 years..and the only way to do that is Divide and Rule and Smash the Unions. Whatever , you can re write history if you like , I remember the reality of what scargill and his Marxist agenda did to the rest of the country
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 21:46:56 GMT
Yeah..that's why they got redundancy payments on average of £30,000 when Thatcher closed the Mining Industry down. And that's the reason the Tories hate the NUM because they fought for their members and massively improved their pay and conditions. And we don't want any of that do we? Just turn the clock back 50 years..and the only way to do that is Divide and Rule and Smash the Unions. Whatever , you can re write history if you like , I remember the reality of what scargill and his Marxist agenda did to the rest of the country Unions sold the steel workers down the river too
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 30, 2015 21:53:47 GMT
Whatever , you can re write history if you like , I remember the reality of what scargill and his Marxist agenda did to the rest of the country Unions sold the steel workers down the river too Indeed they did mate Let's not forget self appointed NUM self appointed president for life scargill and his shabby court case with his own Union who now disown him
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Post by salopstick on Mar 30, 2015 22:05:08 GMT
Everyone got shafted by the NUM especially it's own members Yeah..that's why they got redundancy payments on average of £30,000 when Thatcher closed the Mining Industry down. And that's the reason the Tories hate the NUM because they fought for their members and massively improved their pay and conditions. And we don't want any of that do we? Just turn the clock back 50 years..and the only way to do that is Divide and Rule and Smash the Unions. Yeah let's bring back closed shops at the same time
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Post by kinetic on Mar 31, 2015 1:09:56 GMT
Connections ?? Outright supported it. Now they talk about on-line grooming Check out your mates in the EDL mate...it doesn't make pretty reading at all. Look fella I cant ever remember having have a membership card turn up for a edl demo the labour party on the other hand is it 38 serving MPs have been investigated ??? labour25.com/
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Post by kinetic on Mar 31, 2015 12:06:17 GMT
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Apr 1, 2015 8:21:24 GMT
Yeah..that's why they got redundancy payments on average of £30,000 when Thatcher closed the Mining Industry down. And that's the reason the Tories hate the NUM because they fought for their members and massively improved their pay and conditions. And we don't want any of that do we? Just turn the clock back 50 years..and the only way to do that is Divide and Rule and Smash the Unions. Yeah let's bring back closed shops at the same time We still have them..Ever heard of The Law Society? Why do you think that Solicitors fees are so high? Biggest closed shop in the UK Mrs Thatcher only took on the workers NOT the professionals.Much easier to destroy. Just divide and rule and they'll fight each other. And guess what? It worked. Now we have zero hours contracts and tax credits propping up business that pay below the minimum wage..but the professional classes continue to charge what they like.
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 1, 2015 8:50:21 GMT
Yeah let's bring back closed shops at the same time We still have them..Ever heard of The Law Society? Why do you think that Solicitors fees are so high? Biggest closed shop in the UK Mrs Thatcher only took on the workers NOT the professionals.Much easier to destroy. Just divide and rule and they'll fight each other. And guess what? It worked. Now we have zero hours contracts and tax credits propping up business that pay below the minimum wage..but the professional classes continue to charge what they like. Absolute rubbish , solicitors are closing down in record numbers due to changes in legal aid , this has also had a similar effect at the Bar particularly family and criminal barristers
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