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Post by harryburrows on Mar 29, 2015 16:47:04 GMT
Why? Because he isnt a fucking brainwashed Stoke moron that would vote for a fucking paving slab if it was painted red? Quite obviously people vote for who they think can do them the most good. No surprise labour give the most out in benefits to work shy cunters! H Meanwhile the other lot let the super rich avoid paying billions in tax and allow 7 figure bonuses to be paid to the people responsible for the recession. Like everything, there is a balance to be had. 2 wrongs don't make a right , who are these super rich by the way ?
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 29, 2015 16:48:48 GMT
Meanwhile the other lot let the super rich avoid paying billions in tax and allow 7 figure bonuses to be paid to the people responsible for the recession. Like everything, there is a balance to be had. 2 wrongs don't make a right , who are these super rich by the way ? Did I say it does? No. There is a balance to be had, a fair welfare system for the people who need and deserve it and incentives for companies and people to remain and invest in the country without taking the piss.
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Post by RAF on Mar 29, 2015 16:49:25 GMT
Why? Because he isnt a fucking brainwashed Stoke moron that would vote for a fucking paving slab if it was painted red? Quite obviously people vote for who they think can do them the most good. No surprise labour give the most out in benefits to work shy cunters! H Meanwhile the other lot let the super rich avoid paying billions in tax and allow 7 figure bonuses to be paid to the people responsible for the recession. Like everything, there is a balance to be had. If I remember rightly Pugs it was Labour who took us into recession and did fuck all about the bankers! H
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 29, 2015 16:51:46 GMT
Meanwhile the other lot let the super rich avoid paying billions in tax and allow 7 figure bonuses to be paid to the people responsible for the recession. Like everything, there is a balance to be had. If I remember rightly Pugs it was Labour who took us into recession and did fuck all about the bankers! H Where the fuck have I said they didn't?
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 29, 2015 16:55:31 GMT
2 wrongs don't make a right , who are these super rich by the way ? Did I say it does? No. There is a balance to be had, a fair welfare system for the people who need and deserve it and incentives for companies and people to remain and invest in the country without taking the piss. Totally agree with you , I have always believed in social democracy never believed socialism is the way to achieve it
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Post by RAF on Mar 29, 2015 16:57:24 GMT
If I remember rightly Pugs it was Labour who took us into recession and did fuck all about the bankers! H Where the fuck have I said they didn't? You didnt but you did seem to suggest that it was down to the tories that the bankers got away with what they did! H
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 29, 2015 17:00:26 GMT
Meanwhile the other lot let the super rich avoid paying billions in tax and allow 7 figure bonuses to be paid to the people responsible for the recession. Like everything, there is a balance to be had. If I remember rightly Pugs it was Labour who took us into recession and did fuck all about the bankers! H Tbf I've always been a big fan of thatcher and a lot her achievements , not all of the consequences though in hindsight the Big Bang was a mistake . The recession was a direct result of the rampant criminal behaviour of American banks , in particular the sub prime mortgage scandall
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 29, 2015 17:01:42 GMT
Where the fuck have I said they didn't? You didnt but you did seem to suggest that it was down to the tories that the bankers got away with what they did! H Seem to suggest? Did I balls.
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 29, 2015 17:03:47 GMT
If I remember rightly Pugs it was Labour who took us into recession and did fuck all about the bankers! H Tbf I've always been a big fan of thatcher and a lot her achievements , not all of the consequences though . The recession was a direct result of the rampant criminal behaviour of American banks , in particular the sub prime mortgage scandall What achievements? Ripping the heart out of communities in Northern England and Southern Wales? Decimating the manufacturing industry in this country? Jesus wept, you're going to say the Unions and the Falklands aren't you?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 29, 2015 17:05:52 GMT
Looking at the latest polls, look forward to paying the Mansion Tax, Karl me old mucker. On Championship wages as well. Don't you just love karma
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 29, 2015 17:07:34 GMT
Tbf I've always been a big fan of thatcher and a lot her achievements , not all of the consequences though . The recession was a direct result of the rampant criminal behaviour of American banks , in particular the sub prime mortgage scandall What achievements? Ripping the heart out of communities in Northern England and Southern Wales? Decimating the manufacturing industry in this country? Jesus wept, you're going to say the Unions and the Falklands aren't you? As I said not all of the consequences , thatcher had little choice with the Falklands , unlike our involvement in the Middle East
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Post by mailman44 on Mar 29, 2015 17:07:35 GMT
Stealing a living as a footballer ... (Cue up his signing for an MLS side)
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Post by Matthews dad on Mar 29, 2015 17:11:34 GMT
Looking at the latest polls, look forward to paying the Mansion Tax, Karl me old mucker. On Championship wages as well. Don't you just love karma Don't you just love the politics of envy ????????
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 17:19:25 GMT
Fuck all the petty squabbling over politics,that shit belongs on the other board. Can't we all just agree that Karl Henry is a fucking wanker and an even wanker footballer?
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Post by ohbottom on Mar 29, 2015 17:22:28 GMT
Anyone voting Tory who is not worth millions is an idiot! Presumably Karl Henry IS worth millions.
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Post by mikeyc on Mar 29, 2015 17:29:48 GMT
You didnt but you did seem to suggest that it was down to the tories that the bankers got away with what they did! H Seem to suggest? Did I balls. I seem to remember the Tories pushing for even less regulation on the banks - the crash would have been even worse had they been in charge.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 29, 2015 17:32:05 GMT
Meanwhile the other lot let the super rich avoid paying billions in tax and allow 7 figure bonuses to be paid to the people responsible for the recession. Like everything, there is a balance to be had. If I remember rightly Pugs it was Labour who took us into recession and did fuck all about the bankers! H It was a global recession and the Tories praised and backed many of the economic policies that helped bring it about.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 29, 2015 17:40:56 GMT
If I remember rightly Pugs it was Labour who took us into recession and did fuck all about the bankers! H It was a global recession and the Tories praised and backed many of the economic policies that helped bring it about. The crash occurred after 10 years of government by new labour rob , Blair was a closet capitalist as we know
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Post by devondumpling on Mar 29, 2015 17:43:38 GMT
It was a global recession and the Tories praised and backed many of the economic policies that helped bring it about
Don't make up stories. Your a very naughty boy!
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 29, 2015 17:44:18 GMT
It was a global recession and the Tories praised and backed many of the economic policies that helped bring it about. The crash occurred after 10 years of government by new labour rob , Blair was a closet capitalist as we know It was a global recession Harry. That isn't Labour's fault and the evidence suggests that the Conservatives would've done literally nothing differently (which is damning from a Labour perspective). There would have been a recession whoever was in power. Of course, it's allowed this shower of c**ts to target the poor and the vulnerable, which they couldn't fucking wait to do.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 29, 2015 17:44:39 GMT
It was a global recession and the Tories praised and backed many of the economic policies that helped bring it about Don't make up stories. Your a very naughty boy! What's made up there?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 29, 2015 17:46:15 GMT
Looking at the latest polls, look forward to paying the Mansion Tax, Karl me old mucker. On Championship wages as well. Don't you just love karma Don't you just love the politics of envy ???????? Dunno. I like the politics of progressive taxation though.
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Post by harryburrows on Mar 29, 2015 17:53:21 GMT
The crash occurred after 10 years of government by new labour rob , Blair was a closet capitalist as we know It was a global recession Harry. That isn't Labour's fault and the evidence suggests that the Conservatives would've done literally nothing differently (which is damning from a Labour perspective). There would have been a recession whoever was in power. Of course, it's allowed this shower of c**ts to target the poor and the vulnerable, which they couldn't fucking wait to do. It was a global recession as I said earlier , the routes of it came from the Bush administrations insistence on mortgages for all despite warnings of where it would lead . You may characterise the present government in those terms but any government will need to tackle our national debts, labour will need to make further cuts in public spending as they readily admit , the interest payment alone on our debt is £65 billion ( ish ) pa , more than we spend on education .
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 29, 2015 17:56:06 GMT
They are all of the same ilk. I think they flick a coin to decide Red or Blue, once they leave Oxbridge. Then quite happily retire, in a couple of decades time.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Mar 29, 2015 17:56:44 GMT
That makes him a complete moron as well as Stoke legend! Why? Because he isnt a fucking brainwashed Stoke moron that would vote for a fucking paving slab if it was painted red? Quite obviously people vote for who they think can do them the most good. No surprise labour give the most out in benefits to work shy cunters! H Some people vote for who they think will do the country the most good. Step forward St Peter.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 29, 2015 17:59:11 GMT
Why? Because he isnt a fucking brainwashed Stoke moron that would vote for a fucking paving slab if it was painted red? Quite obviously people vote for who they think can do them the most good. No surprise labour give the most out in benefits to work shy cunters! H Some people vote for who they think will do the country the most good. Step forward St Peter. He won't be on the list.
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Post by draytondave on Mar 29, 2015 17:59:30 GMT
I had a lot of admiration for Rio when he was vocal about racism in football. He appears however to vote for a party that used a slogan 'If you want a ni88er for a neighbour vote labour.' Principles eh? Eh? Is he not the one that made a racist comment to a fellow player? Rio the racist, Stan the woman beater and some shit footballer, nothing to see here.
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Post by upthefud on Mar 29, 2015 18:00:28 GMT
Vote UKIP. Simple.
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Post by RAF on Mar 29, 2015 18:02:31 GMT
You didnt but you did seem to suggest that it was down to the tories that the bankers got away with what they did! H Seem to suggest? Did I balls. Oh right, I must have completely misunderstood what you meant by "Meanwhile the other lot let the super rich avoid paying billions in tax and allow 7 figure bonuses to be paid to the people responsible for the recession." H
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Post by jonney on Mar 29, 2015 18:28:39 GMT
Personally, i think that the major issue was a huge rise in public spending (mainly brought in by but not limited to the previous Labour government) that the country was never going to be able to sustain in the long term regardless of whether the recession occurred.
Unfortunately, this had led to some people having an unjustified sense of entitlement to an unrealistic amount public money (not just benefits), that realistically the country could not afford to pay in the first place never mind the long term. (There are some things I don't include in this, such as the NHS as I think spending on this should have been protected)
Which ever party formed a government this time was always going to have a tough time as there were only 2 real options, cut spending or raise taxes as borrowing more money simply wasn't an option.
Personally I think most of the correct options have been taken and this is being shown in the slow but steady recovery we are seeing. One which is years ahead of most of Europe.
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