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Post by djh on Mar 29, 2015 13:33:22 GMT
What about the time George Andrews was commentating on Stoke away at Portsmouth, supposedly as Radio Stoke's Stoke correspondent, but spent the whole game openly rooting for Portsmouth and screaming with excitement every time they approached Stoke's goal, before falling into a sulky silence when Carl Beeston scored a late winner. That summed up the Port Vale approach to football for me. Existing purely to hope another team loses. Didn't the pubs in Burslem make a big deal out of backing Man City in the cup final in 2011? The commentary for that game went something along the lines of...beeston, shot from just inside his own half, goal, 1-0 to Stoke. All said very quietly without a hint of excitement. Late on, Pompey attacked and the commentary style changed. Pompey on the attack, cross goes in, its a goal, GOAL POMPEY HAVE EQUALISED....OH NO, IT'S OVER THE BAR. You'd never guess at his previous bias if you heard his commentary of our games on Signal. He goes fucking nuts when we score! Mind you he has Mike Pejic co-commentating and may be worried about getting a good hiding if he strays
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Post by geoff321 on Mar 29, 2015 13:36:21 GMT
Stan is a Stoke legend but was a Vale fan and manager. You can have great banter and rivalry between local teams but no need for hatred really, this is just football not war.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 29, 2015 13:42:39 GMT
The notion Vale doing well is good for the city is based on nothing. They prefer it that way too. To distance themselves they even removed the word Stoke from their postal address.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 13:47:53 GMT
Personally hope they stay up and get promoted next year and maybe even get to the prem. I loved playing them, great rivalary, would be great for the town - would it not? When were you last in Stoke on Trent!!??? I have noticed a trend of unforgivable generosity toward the unwashed from our exile supporters. And be careful with your reply. I'm just about to drive upto Blackpool and I will be round with the boys Scary stuff
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Mar 29, 2015 17:14:47 GMT
You wouldn't...believe the majority of the board. Horrible nights in drizzle at Vale Park, walkin through dim dank Cobridge towards the V shaped lights, with pretty much everything Staffs Police could muster following behind. The Sentivale going into overdrive pre & post match, with the inevitable bullshit that flowed on those occasions when Vale won I can still see a ball stuck in the mud courtesy of John Regis, Auto windscreens match. dave regis ;-) Whoops! Silly me (lol)Mind you we could have had John,Dave & Cyril that night and it wouldnt have made a difference
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Post by mark71 on Mar 29, 2015 18:08:25 GMT
We spent nearly 30 years trying to get out of shit hole leagues, playing shit football at shit grounds with shit players getting incredible amounts of bile thrown at us by the local media.
Now we are in the premier league and reaping the rewards some people would like to go back there for old times sake. Anyone wishing to play the vale must be fuckin stupid. If you want to see the vale play then fuck off up the and don't bother reporting back how wank it is because we all ready know.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 29, 2015 18:11:34 GMT
We spent nearly 30 years trying to get out of shit hole leagues, playing shit football at shit grounds with shit players getting incredible amounts of bile thrown at us by the local media. Now we are in the premier league and reaping the rewards some people would like to go back there for old times sake. Anyone wishing to play the vale must be fuckin stupid. If you want to see the vale play then fuck off up the and don't bother reporting back how wank it is because we all ready know. I don't know, I quite enjoyed this afternoons game.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2015 18:34:35 GMT
The commentary for that game went something along the lines of...beeston, shot from just inside his own half, goal, 1-0 to Stoke. All said very quietly without a hint of excitement. Late on, Pompey attacked and the commentary style changed. Pompey on the attack, cross goes in, its a goal, GOAL POMPEY HAVE EQUALISED....OH NO, IT'S OVER THE BAR. I think the description of the Beeston goal went no further than a flat, sorrowful "Goal" which was the exact apologetic way Andrews announced any goal Vale conceded. Yeah, I was listening that night. The other amusing thing was his obvious irritation over how long it took Paul Stewart to walk off the pitch when he was substituted late in the game. I think he wanted him booked for it.
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Post by blackpoolred on Mar 29, 2015 19:01:07 GMT
When were you last in Stoke on Trent!!??? I have noticed a trend of unforgivable generosity toward the unwashed from our exile supporters. And be careful with your reply. I'm just about to drive upto Blackpool and I will be round with the boys Scary stuff I can confirm that I am receiving death threats and threatening private messages for daring to wish the Vale do well - and that is just off the wife However I would like to raise 2 points: Point 1, I am not scared of Stokies or your threatening messages, in fact up here in Blackpool, Stoke fans are known as southern softies Point 2, because I dared to make point 1 I am buying a 1 way ticket to the Isle of man for the Summer On a serious note would we not love a proper Derby game, we don’t really have one do we, picture this: 5 years from now the Vale get promoted to the prem for the first time in their history, the computer throws out the opening day fixture and low and behold the Vale have to come to the Brit. Stoke have finally filled the corners in and a crowd of 40,000 spectators is expected in a sell out crowd. The day is upon us and the atmosphere is beyond electric, woman and children are running from the scene as they just can’t take the tribal atmosphere, commentators are fleeing from the seats as far away as they can from what they deem to be a blood bath. The mighty Brit has gained supporters from all over the world for their legendary atmosphere, but this is another level. El clasico and the Glasgow Derby? You're having a laugh - they pale into significance compared to this Derby - the noise is beyond deafening. Vale fans have sold out there end and make their way to the ground via their charabancs and the underground sewer. The orcs are their and waiting for them. – let the battle commence. Eminem is blaring out as we wait for the players to take to the field, The rappers song has never meant so much to us. The game commences to the loudest Delilah ever recorded, Tackles go crunching in from the beginning, the ref tries to send players off, but we just ignore the officials and carry on regardless - 11 v 11 fighting it out to the death. Vale start to play well and their fans smell blood( which actually is blood - crusty candle sticks protruding from their noses are exploding in the adrenalin filled atmosphere) Vale have done the unthinkable and lead 1-0 at half time, but the second half begins and the Stoke all stars are beginning to thrive, the inevitable happens and we level with 10 mins to go. The pressure mounts and the atmosphere raises another level( when the reds come marching in is belting out none stop by every man woman and child) 5 mins into injury time and captain marvel rises 10 feet into the air, In what feels like slow motion, and breaks the net with a power header right in front of the expecting Stoke fans. The ground erupts, I ejaculate and my wife has her first vaginal orgasm, standing there laughing with my cock in her mouth – it does not get better than this surely. The Vale are sent packing with their tails and webbed feet between their legs. Or we lose 1-0 and never break sweat, as per usual against a newly promoted side. But you get my point – surely?
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Post by bmstoke on Mar 29, 2015 19:47:17 GMT
Scary stuff I can confirm that I am receiving death threats and threatening private messages for daring to wish the Vale do well - and that is just off the wife However I would like to raise 2 points: Point 1, I am not scared of Stokies or your threatening messages, in fact up here in Blackpool, Stoke fans are known as southern softies Point 2, because I dared to make point 1 I am buying a 1 way ticket to the Isle of man for the Summer On a serious note would we not love a proper Derby game, we don’t really have one do we, picture this: 5 years from now the Vale get promoted to the prem for the first time in their history, the computer throws out the opening day fixture and low and behold the Vale have to come to the Brit. Stoke have finally filled the corners in and a crowd of 40,000 spectators is expected in a sell out crowd. The day is upon us and the atmosphere is beyond electric, woman and children are running from the scene as they just can’t take the tribal atmosphere, commentators are fleeing from the seats as far away as they can from what they deem to be a blood bath. The mighty Brit has gained supporters from all over the world for their legendary atmosphere, but this is another level. El clasico and the Glasgow Derby? You're having a laugh - they pale into significance compared to this Derby - the noise is beyond deafening. Vale fans have sold out there end and make their way to the ground via their charabancs and the underground sewer. The orcs are their and waiting for them. – let the battle commence. Eminem is blaring out as we wait for the players to take to the field, The rappers song has never meant so much to us. The game commences to the loudest Delilah ever recorded, Tackles go crunching in from the beginning, the ref tries to send players off, but we just ignore the officials and carry on regardless - 11 v 11 fighting it out to the death. Vale start to play well and their fans smell blood( which actually is blood - crusty candle sticks protruding from their noses are exploding in the adrenalin filled atmosphere) Vale have done the unthinkable and lead 1-0 at half time, but the second half begins and the Stoke all stars are beginning to thrive, the inevitable happens and we level with 10 mins to go. The pressure mounts and the atmosphere raises another level( when the reds come marching in is belting out none stop by every man woman and child) 5 mins into injury time and captain marvel rises 10 feet into the air, In what feels like slow motion, and breaks the net with a power header right in front of the expecting Stoke fans. The ground erupts, I ejaculate and my wife has her first vaginal orgasm, standing there laughing with my cock in her mouth – it does not get better than this surely. The Vale are sent packing with their tails and webbed feet between their legs. Or we lose 1-0 and never break sweat, as per usual against a newly promoted side. But you get my point – surely? No. Let the fuckers go bust.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Mar 29, 2015 20:05:53 GMT
What about the time George Andrews was commentating on Stoke away at Portsmouth, supposedly as Radio Stoke's Stoke correspondent, but spent the whole game openly rooting for Portsmouth and screaming with excitement every time they approached Stoke's goal, before falling into a sulky silence when Carl Beeston scored a late winner. That summed up the Port Vale approach to football for me. Existing purely to hope another team loses. Didn't the pubs in Burslem make a big deal out of backing Man City in the cup final in 2011? The commentary for that game went something along the lines of...beeston, shot from just inside his own half, goal, 1-0 to Stoke. All said very quietly without a hint of excitement. Late on, Pompey attacked and the commentary style changed. Pompey on the attack, cross goes in, its a goal, GOAL POMPEY HAVE EQUALISED....OH NO, IT'S OVER THE BAR. It may have been mentioned elsewhere but he was the Stoke commentator on a night match at Man City where we won 1..0. It featured Andrews appealing for penalties for the Mancs that even their supporters couldn't see and demanding the booking of a substituted Stoke player for leaving the pitch too slowly!! Tosser!
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Post by AlliG on Mar 29, 2015 20:25:57 GMT
I've never seen Stoke play Vale live. I'd like to experience it in my lifetime. No you really wouldn't! I am one of the "oldies" who used to regularly go to watch the Vale when they played on Monday nights or when Stoke were playing too far away, so I don't have any great antipathy towards the Vale but when it comes to playing them again, never is still too soon! I have been to a number of Vale home games where the atmosphere has been such at the end of the game that a neutral would have thought they had won and won well yet they had lost (and lost badly) and were celebrating a Stoke defeat. A Stoke defeat always seemed far more important to their mood than their own team's performance and result. Stoke v Vale is the ultimate "no-win" fixture for Stoke. If we win, no one cares, if we lose, we will hear about it for the next 100 years! To prove the point a couple of weeks ago the Saturday Sentinel had a full page article on the Autoglass defeat in 1993.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 29, 2015 21:41:11 GMT
The commentary for that game went something along the lines of...beeston, shot from just inside his own half, goal, 1-0 to Stoke. All said very quietly without a hint of excitement. Late on, Pompey attacked and the commentary style changed. Pompey on the attack, cross goes in, its a goal, GOAL POMPEY HAVE EQUALISED....OH NO, IT'S OVER THE BAR. It may have been mentioned elsewhere but he was the Stoke commentator on a night match at Man City where we won 1..0. It featured Andrews appealing for penalties for the Mancs that even their supporters couldn't see and demanding the booking of a substituted Stoke player for leaving the pitch too slowly!! Tosser! Presumably that was the night ray Wallace scored in which case I was at the game so didn't have the pleasure of listening to the radio commentary. Chic bates, he will take us up, chic bates, he will take us up (repeat to fade).
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 30, 2015 1:14:59 GMT
It may have been mentioned elsewhere but he was the Stoke commentator on a night match at Man City where we won 1..0. It featured Andrews appealing for penalties for the Mancs that even their supporters couldn't see and demanding the booking of a substituted Stoke player for leaving the pitch too slowly!! Tosser! Presumably that was the night ray Wallace scored in which case I was at the game so didn't have the pleasure of listening to the radio commentary. Chic bates, he will take us up, chic bates, he will take us up (repeat to fade). We didn't win again for 14 years after that.
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Post by onionman on Mar 30, 2015 1:45:11 GMT
It was the night of Razor's goal, and we did sing Chic Bates he will take us up, and Paul Stewart did hilariously take about 70 minutes to remove his gigantic arse from the Maine Road turf.
I also remember the Kippax going genuinely mental when their awful winger Neal Heaney got substituted. I felt a bit sorry for him.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 30, 2015 2:01:05 GMT
It was the night of Razor's goal, and we did sing Chic Bates he will take us up, and Paul Stewart did hilariously take about 70 minutes to remove his gigantic arse from the Maine Road turf. I also remember the Kippax going genuinely mental when their awful winger Neal Heaney got substituted. I felt a bit sorry for him. We went up to 6th by winning that game. Look where we ended.
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Post by upthefud on Mar 30, 2015 2:32:40 GMT
I've got some good mates who are loyal Vale fans, I'd take them over glory hunting wankstains any day of the week.
Sad fact is regardless of how knowledgable about football they are they still can't shake the Stoke resentment off. They were in Burslem celebrating Man City's cup final as though it was their own team. A bit pathetic.
If we were Bury fans though how much would we resent the two big Manchester clubs? I suppose everyone tends to be jealous of their bigger more successful brother. Our existence harms them more than they harm us.
Overall I'd like them to see success, maybe an FA Cup fourth round appearance and a good JPT run, but no higher than league one. Let's keep the distance.
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 30, 2015 6:23:25 GMT
I do my best to ignore Vale BUT the notion them doing well is good for Stoke-on-Trent is utter bollox. And the notion playing them again would be fun is ludicrous.
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Mar 30, 2015 7:56:45 GMT
The commentary for that game went something along the lines of...beeston, shot from just inside his own half, goal, 1-0 to Stoke. All said very quietly without a hint of excitement. Late on, Pompey attacked and the commentary style changed. Pompey on the attack, cross goes in, its a goal, GOAL POMPEY HAVE EQUALISED....OH NO, IT'S OVER THE BAR. It may have been mentioned elsewhere but he was the Stoke commentator on a night match at Man City where we won 1..0. It featured Andrews appealing for penalties for the Mancs that even their supporters couldn't see and demanding the booking of a substituted Stoke player for leaving the pitch too slowly!! Tosser! Does anyone remember George Andrews turning up at a packed Kings Hall to report on a public appearance by Lou Macari? (97-98) He was taking loads of verbals from the assembled Stokies, very sheepish look on his face and well and truly put back in his box.
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Post by PerthPotter on Mar 30, 2015 8:20:12 GMT
Does anyone remember George Andrews turning up at a packed Kings Hall to report on a public appearance by Lou Macari? (97-98) He was taking loads of verbals from the assembled Stokies, very sheepish look on his face and well and truly put back in his box. I was there that night. That was the same day that Stoke had sacked Mick Pejic wasn't it and a lot of people who were there didn't know and were gobsmacked when it came out? I also remember Andrews getting a massive "what's it like to see a crowd" sung at him
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Post by Davef on Mar 30, 2015 11:10:05 GMT
There are plenty of people with the opinion that Vale doing well would be good for us and the area, but I'm yet to read one decent reason why.
We've certainly done exceptionally well over the last ten years without them (and when we were doing well in the 1970s, the Vale were also on their arses).
As for success for the Vale being good for the city, how does that work? Unlike us, they don't carry the title of the city in their name. In fact, they don't even carry the name of the town they are supposed to represent and when it was suggested a few years ago that they change their name to Burslem Port Vale it was rejected out of hand because of their petty squabbles with the council.
They are a waste of space.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 11:16:52 GMT
They're too good to go down....
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Post by Gods on Mar 30, 2015 11:18:06 GMT
I must admit it wouldn't kill me if I never had to visit the piss soaked streets of Burslem ever again to see us play
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Post by wozzer72 on Mar 30, 2015 20:15:25 GMT
I want them gone, it will be one of the happiest days of my life when they go bump and they will.
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Post by geoff321 on Mar 30, 2015 20:18:49 GMT
Small clubs may well go bust but that is bad new for English football in general as well as the loyal supporters of those teams.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 30, 2015 20:55:57 GMT
Small clubs may well go bust but that is bad new for English football in general as well as the loyal supporters of those teams. Good news for council tax payers in S-o-T though, scrounging piss pot club, administration X2 shameless disgrace to the City.
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Post by geoff321 on Mar 30, 2015 21:01:19 GMT
Don't think it cost as much to bail out Vale as it did the banks though slayer, if you are a major bank you're classed as to big to fail.
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Mar 31, 2015 8:31:07 GMT
There are plenty of people with the opinion that Vale doing well would be good for us and the area, but I'm yet to read one decent reason why. We've certainly done exceptionally well over the last ten years without them (and when we were doing well in the 1970s, the Vale were also on their arses). As for success for the Vale being good for the city, how does that work? Unlike us, they don't carry the title of the city in their name. In fact, they don't even carry the name of the town they are supposed to represent and when it was suggested a few years ago that they change their name to Burslem Port Vale it was rejected out of hand because of their petty squabbles with the council. They are a waste of space. That 'Good for the City' bollocks I'm sure originated in a Sentinel editorial. It was almost exclusively used by Port Vale fans in my experience. The young Stoke fans who didn't experience those days, please read Davef's quote- absolutely spot on.
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Post by bigcashprizes on Mar 31, 2015 8:40:41 GMT
Walking down Hamil Rd after the Lee Mills bollocks, surrounded by mentally challenged balloonheads singing, "you'll never beat the Vale". Grim. Hope they perish painfully
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Post by colinroberts1 on Mar 31, 2015 8:46:22 GMT
They are a waste of space.[/quote] That 'Good for the City' bollocks I'm sure originated in a Sentinel editorial. It was almost exclusively used by Port Vale fans in my experience. The young Stoke fans who didn't experience those days, please read Davef's quote- absolutely spot on.[/quote] isnt the sentinel editor a vale fan ???????
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