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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 27, 2015 20:59:01 GMT
It's a joke because it should be deserved goals not scrappy shite luck. So if Stoke won a game against an easier team you'd complain if we won said game from a lucky goal? I want them to win and they are doing, its enough for me, I don't have over the top expectations given the players and the manager we have. First off this isn't Stoke or comparable because it's a international side... Lithuania's players are from 12 different leagues... Does a lucky goal show a team's actaul ability or quality???
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 27, 2015 20:59:22 GMT
Ask any striker which they prefer, deserved or undeserved goals!!! Deserved, easily you muppet. Your'e on the wind-up mate! Nice try!
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 27, 2015 20:59:30 GMT
Not as often as it should, international managers are naturally cautious. England are on a different level to this lot and yet start with 3 defensive midfield players and Sterling left midfield. Lithuania are unbelievably poor and I think Rochdale who we beat in the cup recently are a better side than this lot. I'm not knocking England at all, I'm knocking the fact that Hodgson will be happy with a 3 or 4 - 0 win when we should be thrashing one of the worlds worst international teams I've seen. But historically teams seldom score double figures. I dont see how you think it should suddenly start happening here. How many times have Lithuania conceded double figures in their history? 4-0 would be a reasonable result. Job done. End of. Its not a circus! I agree with you to an extent but it does feel like a circus. International football has lost much of it's credibility with cancelling the domestic fixtures to play shit sides like this. Not so long ago there was usually one poor International team (San Marino, Luxembourg etc) in the qualifying group, now there are 3 or 4. This what I'm watching is not an enjoyable game of football.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 20:59:38 GMT
England are doing ok .... Oh ok, I will follow the "party line" as Woy didn't select Shawcross.
England are wank.
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Post by 2004 on Mar 27, 2015 20:59:39 GMT
STOP FUCKING DIVING WELBECK!!!!!!!!!
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 27, 2015 20:59:56 GMT
Deserved, easily you muppet. They wouldn't care. Their celebrations show otherwise...
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Post by metalhead on Mar 27, 2015 21:00:09 GMT
Blatant dive by Welbeck and those odious idiots defend him.
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Post by 2004 on Mar 27, 2015 21:00:34 GMT
3-0 Sterling
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 27, 2015 21:00:44 GMT
England's first deserved goal... from Rooney to Sterling.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 27, 2015 21:00:49 GMT
4 nil now we get double for a deserved goal
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 27, 2015 21:01:38 GMT
4 nil now we get double for a deserved goal 1-0 England. Remember that the Germans don't give undeserved goals.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 27, 2015 21:02:30 GMT
So if Stoke won a game against an easier team you'd complain if we won said game from a lucky goal? I want them to win and they are doing, its enough for me, I don't have over the top expectations given the players and the manager we have. First off this isn't Stoke or comparable because it's a international side... Lithuania's players are from 12 different leagues... Does a lucky goal show a team's actaul ability or quality??? Its a game of football, its easily comparable.
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 27, 2015 21:02:58 GMT
Deserved, easily you muppet. Your'e on the wind-up mate! Nice try! Wind up? Try the truth... See that Celebration versus the two scrap goals...
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 27, 2015 21:03:05 GMT
But historically teams seldom score double figures. I dont see how you think it should suddenly start happening here. How many times have Lithuania conceded double figures in their history? 4-0 would be a reasonable result. Job done. End of. Its not a circus! I agree with you to an extent but it does feel like a circus. International football has lost much of it's credibility with cancelling the domestic fixtures to play shit sides like this. Not so long ago there was usually one poor International team (San Marino, Luxembourg etc) in the qualifying group, now there are 3 or 4. This what I'm watching is not an enjoyable game of football. I dont disagree with any of that.
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 27, 2015 21:03:19 GMT
First off this isn't Stoke or comparable because it's a international side... Lithuania's players are from 12 different leagues... Does a lucky goal show a team's actaul ability or quality??? Its a game of football, its easily comparable. In your mind.
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Post by ruts66 on Mar 27, 2015 21:04:39 GMT
"Come on, come on, hurry up Harry, come on..."
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 27, 2015 21:04:59 GMT
Its a game of football, its easily comparable. In your mind. And reality, why is it any different because its a national side, a win is still a win.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 27, 2015 21:05:35 GMT
Its a game of football, its easily comparable. In your mind. Have you ever played football at any level or spoken to any footballers? They don't care how they score goals as long as they do score.
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Post by hotterpotter on Mar 27, 2015 21:05:58 GMT
I hate Andy Townsend I hate the England band I hate people who think half-time is half an hour long I like Sterling more since he cut his hair I like listening to Glenn Hoddle talk about football I love Stoke City Football Club And drinking
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 27, 2015 21:06:02 GMT
And reality, why is it any different because its a national side, a win is still a win. It is... until you lose to better opposition who "deserve" to beat you. Like Costa Rica.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 27, 2015 21:07:06 GMT
And reality, why is it any different because its a national side, a win is still a win. It is... until you lose to better opposition who "deserve" to beat you. Like Costa Rica. oe Denmark and Bendtner
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 27, 2015 21:07:26 GMT
Have you ever played football at any level or spoken to any footballers? They don't care how they score a goals as long as they do score. I have and at a higher level than you could imagine. Your statement is utter shit. Ask any professional their favorites of the goals scored... its never a deflection or a lucky bounce. Your grasping.
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 27, 2015 21:08:02 GMT
It is... until you lose to better opposition who "deserve" to beat you. Like Costa Rica. oe Denmark and Bendtner Did you see his Volley? lol
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 27, 2015 21:08:47 GMT
Have you ever played football at any level or spoken to any footballers? They don't care how they score a goals as long as they do score. I have and at a higher level than you could imagine. Your statement is utter shit. Ask any professional their favorites of the goals scored... its never a deflection or a lucky bounce. Your grasping. what level then? Not talking about 'favourite' goal, just a goal .
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 27, 2015 21:10:02 GMT
I have and at a higher level than you could imagine. Your statement is utter shit. Ask any professional their favorites of the goals scored... its never a deflection or a lucky bounce. Your grasping. what level then? Not talking about 'favourite' goal, just a goal . What level have you played?
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Mar 27, 2015 21:11:53 GMT
what level then? Not talking about 'favourite' goal, just a goal . What level have you played? Best I ever did was 2 games for Stoke B. you? I knew several of the Stoke team in the 70's personally, played with them in the youth leagues, trust me they didnt care how the goal went in.
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Post by 2004 on Mar 27, 2015 21:12:49 GMT
Kane on at last
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Post by numpty40 on Mar 27, 2015 21:13:00 GMT
FFS we've got Mexican waves now!!!
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 27, 2015 21:13:04 GMT
I'm going for a shit.
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Post by hotterpotter on Mar 27, 2015 21:14:39 GMT
"You were only supposed to blow the bloody doors off!"
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