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Post by nutterpotter on Mar 30, 2015 9:58:35 GMT
Love how he always tries to raise expectations and mentions that he is targeting Europe. He's clearly loving it here and truly believes we can go onto bigger and better things. Wonder who these 'big signings' would have been? I'd imagine Shaqiri but who else? Yarmalenko (before he signed his new contract)? Whoever he is referring to it all sounds positive. Club transfer record to be broken this summer?I'd like to think so! Our league position at the end of the season will be very important though. Getting that 8th spot would show we could realistically challenge for Europe next season and we would hopefully be able to entice a few bigger name players this summer. Players would genuinely want to come here, whereas in the past it has often been the case that we've tried persuading players to sign for us but to no avail. So excited for this summer. Think it'll be a big one!
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Post by robwahlmann on Mar 30, 2015 10:00:34 GMT
I really like the club's new approach in the transfer market, and despite spending little money I think we have got great value for the money we have spent under Hughes!
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 30, 2015 10:22:17 GMT
It's a bit close to 'waiting for apples to drop' for my liking. No hard luck stories this summer. Get it knocked out and get some decent players in.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2015 10:30:52 GMT
It's March, I doubt we've made the stick to beat the friggin' tree with yet!
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Post by elystokie on Mar 30, 2015 10:46:20 GMT
I can't be the only one who is always massively impressed with how he goes about things. Understated yet ambitious at the same time. I've been impressed with pretty much every interview I've seen, he sees things as they actually are (including post match interviews) and there appears to be unity at the club from top to bottom, long may it continue, great times ahead I think.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 30, 2015 10:55:08 GMT
Indeed you can't fail to be impressed with his vision and direction for the club. I love the ambition and the fact that the manager and the club want us to have another go at Europe and its the pinnacle of our ambition. Very refreshing and absolutely the right target to aim for. Qualifying for Europe will piss off a few on here who think we should go nowhere near the Europa.Gladly the club see European qualification as the main driver in our progression and indeed it is. It means higher International profile and will attract better players.Maybe a few golden years ahead...dare to dream!
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 30, 2015 11:04:21 GMT
Wages, not the transfer fees are the key. It's all very well paying big transfer fees, but do we pay the going rate for quality players??
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 11:15:24 GMT
I can understand the reluctance to spend big, given how much has been wasted in the past.
That said, Hughes has delivered against the money that has been afforded to him, so that budget should now be extended (if the money is indeed there).
Whoever he does sign, it's a safe assumption that Hughes will have a role earmarked for them and they will play a part, and not just become part of the furniture.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 30, 2015 11:21:32 GMT
Not sure why there is such a clamour for big money to be spent? If there is a question mark over Hughes' managerial career so far it his ability to spend big in the transfer market. He strikes me as a manager who operates better within a limited budget....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 11:23:34 GMT
Not sure why there is such a clamour for big money to be spent? If there is a question mark over Hughes' managerial career so far it his ability to spend big in the transfer market. He strikes me as a manager who operates better within a limited budget.... If we can get 5 more Bojan's for 500k each then I'm sure we'd all be delighted. Realistically, more often than not, to get top quality you need to spend.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2015 11:25:17 GMT
Not sure why there is such a clamour for big money to be spent? If there is a question mark over Hughes' managerial career so far it his ability to spend big in the transfer market. He strikes me as a manager who operates better within a limited budget.... I'd like to see him been given the annual 12-15m TP got if I'm being honest. Within that we need a right back, right winger, Moses and probably (I say probably because I'm a MBD fan) a striker. And if we're being greedy a young back up left back would be good. And a long term replacement for Whelan too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 11:27:07 GMT
Not sure why there is such a clamour for big money to be spent? If there is a question mark over Hughes' managerial career so far it his ability to spend big in the transfer market. He strikes me as a manager who operates better within a limited budget.... I'd like to see him been given the annual 12-15m TP got if I'm being honest. Within that we need a right back, right winger, Moses and probably (I say probably because I'm a MBD fan) a striker. And if we're being greedy a young back up left back would be good. And a long term replacement for Whelan too. Is the top answer.
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Post by Gods on Mar 30, 2015 11:30:00 GMT
Wages, not the transfer fees are the key. It's all very well paying big transfer fees, but do we pay the going rate for quality players?? Yes I agree, wages are a bigger deal than transfer fees these days in all truth. I have even tried standing on my head in the pub and saying that but somehow you just can't punch that message through to some folks
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 30, 2015 11:31:06 GMT
I'd like to see him been given the annual 12-15m TP got if I'm being honest. Within that we need a right back, right winger, Moses and probably (I say probably because I'm a MBD fan) a striker. And if we're being greedy a young back up left back would be good. And a long term replacement for Whelan too. Is the top answer. Which amazingly some think we can do on a shoe string. I'll let them buy me a lottery ticket this week.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 11:32:38 GMT
Which amazingly some think we can do on a shoe string. I'll let them by me a lottery ticket this week. To be fair, the squad is strong as it is. We're not talking about these additions as desperation requirements.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2015 11:32:58 GMT
Which amazingly some think we can do on a shoe string. I'll let them by me a lottery ticket this week. Even with the 12-15m it's a stretch. Especially when we might need to pluck a back up 'keeper out of mid air too!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 30, 2015 11:35:42 GMT
Which amazingly some think we can do on a shoe string. I'll let them by me a lottery ticket this week. To be fair, the squad is strong as it is. We're not talking about these additions as desperation requirements. No it's about pushing on, mate isn't it? We definitely can't stand still though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 11:36:31 GMT
Which amazingly some think we can do on a shoe string. I'll let them by me a lottery ticket this week. Even with the 12-15m it's a stretch. Especially when we might need to pluck a back up 'keeper out of mid air too! Moses is the main addition for me. I'm not convinced on Dioif but he keeps notching so it's difficult to be overly critical. A Whelan upgrade is merely a bonus, not a necessity.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 11:37:46 GMT
To be fair, the squad is strong as it is. We're not talking about these additions as desperation requirements. No it's about pushing on, mate isn't it? We definitely can't stand still though. Agreed. I'm just saying there are around 5 additions we need in an ideal world. If we don't get them all straightaway, it's not the end of the world.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 30, 2015 11:39:17 GMT
Wages, not the transfer fees are the key. It's all very well paying big transfer fees, but do we pay the going rate for quality players?? Yes I agree, wages are a bigger deal than transfer fees these days in all truth. I have even tried standing on my head in the pub and saying that but somehow you just can't punch that message through to some folks True - but there's a lot of player you can get in that 50-55k-a-week range. And, at the last count, there were only 10 clubs in Germany, Italy and Spain combined who were carrying bigger wage bills than Stoke. When you're in that tier of spenders, it's hard not to be in the market for some seriously good talent if you're willing to pay the money.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2015 11:41:09 GMT
Even with the 12-15m it's a stretch. Especially when we might need to pluck a back up 'keeper out of mid air too! Moses is the main addition for me. I'm not convinced on Dioif but he keeps notching so it's difficult to be overly critical. A Whelan upgrade is merely a bonus, not a necessity. We've needed a Whelan upgrade for about 6 years (that's not me being harsh on him either) but he always fights back but it is getting to the point with his age where we will need to replace him. It's going to be interesting to see when within his new deal this happens, if it does at all.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 30, 2015 11:42:01 GMT
No it's about pushing on, mate isn't it? We definitely can't stand still though. Agreed. I'm just saying there are around 5 additions we need in an ideal world. If we don't get them all straightaway, it's not the end of the world. Totally, mate. Still can't work out why people think we can keep picking Bojan's up for £500k which is the bit that puzzles me. Nobody on here advocates spending stupid money but spending 7 or 8 million on a player isn't unrealistic.
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Post by lordb on Mar 30, 2015 11:43:33 GMT
Players generally go where the money is. Always have & always will. I think it's not sunk in yet that (outside the big spenders in England) Stoke City(& the other prem clubs) is where the money is.
edit: there are still some big spenders (on wages & fee's) outside England but the list of clubs who can/will pay more than us is getting smaller & smaller.
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Post by chiefdelilah on Mar 30, 2015 11:46:25 GMT
Players generally go where the money is. Always have & always will. I think it's not sunk in yet that (outside the big spenders in England) Stoke City(& the other prem clubs) is where the money is. edit: there are still some big spenders (on wages & fee's) outside England but the list of clubs who can/will pay more than us is getting smaller & smaller. Money is a hugely influential one but I don't think it's true to say it's the only one. Most players want to play at the highest level they can and achieve as much as they can.
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Post by jeycov on Mar 30, 2015 11:57:31 GMT
I can't be the only one who is always massively impressed with how he goes about things. Understated yet ambitious at the same time. Indeed, his backroom staff are also a massive bonus. Mark Bowen in particular, is able to respond with confidence at media interviews, most recently part of the commentary team at one of the Wales games - all great PR for the club It will be interesting to see who 'moves on" at the end of the season ,as the club look to upgrade the squad. Great news that MH has signed up for another 4 years
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 30, 2015 12:02:33 GMT
I'm happy with us spending similar levels to what we are now, with the caveat that if a more expensive 'bargain' appears then we will push the boat out for him.
Football clubs will always need to spend on players to improve, but there's a certain amount of pride comes from that fact that we've achieved record finishes having spent very little.
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Post by nott1 on Mar 30, 2015 14:13:09 GMT
Which amazingly some think we can do on a shoe string. I'll let them by me a lottery ticket this week. Even with the 12-15m it's a stretch. Especially when we might need to pluck a back up 'keeper out of mid air too! Back up goalies are cheap as chips!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 30, 2015 14:16:28 GMT
Even with the 12-15m it's a stretch. Especially when we might need to pluck a back up 'keeper out of mid air too! Back up goalies are cheap as chips! 2-3m is a fifth of that budget!
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 2, 2015 14:06:13 GMT
MH on his transfer ambitions...
We haven't spent a great deal since I have been here - I think the net spend is around £6m. I have always been under the impression that if a good player does become available then the funds are there to complete that deal. We have been incredibly close to one or two players of that ilk, but sadly we weren't able to get it over the line.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 10, 2015 9:15:17 GMT
linkIt's fair to say we've done ok. We're probably the lowest spenders in the windows since I've come here. It's not a huge amount but we've done good business. We've got good players here. That can't be a strategy moving forward. At some point you have to invest. You make a decision as players move on or come to the end of their contracts. If we want to continue to get better and be a continually successful side in the top 10 that costs money. The Coates family understands that. We've been close to big targets that we haven't got over the but I've been assured that if it got to the point a cheque had to be signed it would have been. I'm very comfortable and confident if we had an opportunity to bring a top player here the means to do it would be made available.
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