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Post by boothenboy75 on Mar 19, 2015 21:35:09 GMT
Anyone watching this on C4 now.
Trevor Phillips has seen the light and at last seems to be talking sense.
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Post by milfman1 on Mar 19, 2015 22:09:05 GMT
V good programme but I'm sure that the drunken communist will be along soon to tell us the errors of our ways
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Post by boothenboy75 on Mar 19, 2015 22:12:12 GMT
I take my hat off to Trevor Phillips, to admit that what you've spent a fair chunk of your life working towards is wrong takes guts.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 19, 2015 22:40:06 GMT
V good programme but I'm sure that the drunken communist will be along soon to tell us the errors of our ways Eh? You'll have to expand on this one...
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Post by milfman1 on Mar 19, 2015 22:49:52 GMT
Did u watch it DC?
I was referring to you educating us all last nite that every heinous act radical Muslims carry out on non Muslims is our fault as pay back for atroticites caused by Christians throughout history
The programme basically told the truth that the liberal left has created a society where whites are afraid to speak openly and honestly for fear of being labelled bigots and racists and this is ultimately now back firing on the left as the rise of UKIP is becoming unstoppable. The classic example being those sick fucks grooming and raping white girls and the authorities being fully aware of what was going on all over the country but daren't say anything as the left would brand them racists
I await tonight's lesson
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Mar 19, 2015 23:07:00 GMT
No, I was watching darts I was referring to you educating us all last nite that every heinous act radical Muslims carry out on non Muslims is our fault as pay back for atroticites caused by Christians throughout history Nowhere have I ever defended the sickening crimes commited by Muslim extremists. Likewise I've never said it's our fault. You're confussing me not thinking all Muslims are scum as somehow defending the ones who are. The programme basically told the truth that the liberal left has created a society where whites are afraid to speak openly and honestly for fear of being labelled bigots and racists The 'PC lark' has gone too far, but there are plenty of openly racist people who now use this as some chance to spout their vile shit (On 'both sides') and this is ultimately now back firing on the left as the rise of UKIP is becoming unstoppable. Okay The classic example being those sick fucks grooming and raping white girls and the authorities being fully aware of what was going on all over the country but daren't say anything as the left would brand them racists It's really scummy, just like all those white people in positions of power who're now coming to our attention for the same offences. A paedo is a paedo, a Muslim one is no worse than a white one, they're both scum. I hope you enjoyed it
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Post by Linx on Mar 20, 2015 7:42:15 GMT
I suspect that if he was white and hadn't the PC credentials of having been chaired the Equal Opportunities Commission, the programme would never have been allowed to have been made, or at least he wouldn't have presented it. Do I sound racist for stating that?
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 20, 2015 19:06:31 GMT
I suspect that if he was white and hadn't the PC credentials of having been chaired the Equal Opportunities Commission, the programme would never have been allowed to have been made, or at least he wouldn't have presented it. Do I sound racist for stating that? I am surprised that Sol Campbell has not complained that he should have presented it.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 20, 2015 19:15:34 GMT
Did u watch it DC? I was referring to you educating us all last nite that every heinous act radical Muslims carry out on non Muslims is our fault as pay back for atroticites caused by Christians throughout history The programme basically told the truth that the liberal left has created a society where whites are afraid to speak openly and honestly for fear of being labelled bigots and racists and this is ultimately now back firing on the left as the rise of UKIP is becoming unstoppable. The classic example being those sick fucks grooming and raping white girls and the authorities being fully aware of what was going on all over the country but daren't say anything as the left would brand them racists I await tonight's lesson All paedophiles are disgusting scum they should be castrated and marked with a visible P so all can see what they are, to hunt in gangs fairly openly on the streets of this country targeting vulnerable children is appalling, I believe that many more cases similar to Rotherham will eventually become public knowledge as people start to blow the whistle on organisations that knew this sort of depraved shit was going on and apparently turned a blind eye. The people who ignore or suppress evidence of grooming etc are as culpable as the animals who carry it out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 19:18:55 GMT
So because 'white guys' can be paedophiles too, the obvious link between Pakistani-heritage men and child grooming cannot be proven, as these acts could equally be carried out by a group of white Christians?
OK then.
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Post by bmstoke on Mar 20, 2015 19:22:46 GMT
So because 'white guys' can be paedophiles too, the obvious link between Pakistani-heritage men and child grooming cannot be proven, as these acts could equally be carried out by a group of white Christians? OK then. I give you The Catholic Church.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 20:03:04 GMT
So because 'white guys' can be paedophiles too, the obvious link between Pakistani-heritage men and child grooming cannot be proven, as these acts could equally be carried out by a group of white Christians? OK then. I give you The Catholic Church. I accept that.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Mar 20, 2015 20:49:11 GMT
So because 'white guys' can be paedophiles too, the obvious link between Pakistani-heritage men and child grooming cannot be proven, as these acts could equally be carried out by a group of white Christians? OK then. Thats what the programme was all about though. Any crime can be carried out by anyone of any race, but there are higher percentages of crimes carried out by each race. As was said in the programme white people were more likely to commit crimes whilst under the influence, black people were more likely to commit violent offences, etc.. Now the authorities, the police and society can close their eyes to these facts and not look at addressing the underlying conditions that cause these discrepencies or we can all be adult about it and acknowledge reality and try and stop crimes being commited. I think that the kids that have been abused desrve better and we should all be looking at why groups of men have abused thousands of kids in this country. If people don't like the fact that there is a racial aspect to the crimes and just say well any race can abuse kids, when there is clear evidence that a certain section of the community are being shown as commiting the majority of the crimes, then it's a pretty sad state of affairs.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 20, 2015 21:12:04 GMT
So because 'white guys' can be paedophiles too, the obvious link between Pakistani-heritage men and child grooming cannot be proven, as these acts could equally be carried out by a group of white Christians? OK then. Thats what the programme was all about though. Any crime can be carried out by anyone of any race, but there are higher percentages of crimes carried out by each race. As was said in the programme white people were more likely to commit crimes whilst under the influence, black people were more likely to commit violent offences, etc.. Now the authorities, the police and society can close their eyes to these facts and not look at addressing the underlying conditions that cause these discrepencies or we can all be adult about it and acknowledge reality and try and stop crimes being commited. I think that the kids that have been abused desrve better and we should all be looking at why groups of men have abused thousands of kids in this country. If people don't like the fact that there is a racial aspect to the crimes and just say well any race can abuse kids, when there is clear evidence that a certain section of the community are being shown as commiting the majority of the crimes, then it's a pretty sad state of affairs. Ostrich tactics head down arse up kick me please, none so blind as them that can not see, the evidence is overwhelming even the evidence that has been made public. No paedophilia can be excused especially on the grounds of religious beliefs, filthy perverts one and all.
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Post by dime on Mar 21, 2015 0:22:55 GMT
Thought it was a decent programme, very balanced and informative.
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Post by ukcstokie on Mar 21, 2015 1:32:40 GMT
Did the bit about black football managers not seem misplaced? It didn't seem to align with the rest of the program narrative?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 21, 2015 7:32:42 GMT
I take my hat off to Trevor Phillips, to admit that what you've spent a fair chunk of your life working towards is wrong takes guts. Alternatively. .you could argue that Trevor Phillips has made a career out of playing the race card and now realises there's no mileage in it any longer. He knows the Political Tide is turning. Very astute political move Trev ;-)
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Post by kinetic on Mar 22, 2015 6:58:41 GMT
I suspect that if he was white and hadn't the PC credentials of having been chaired the Equal Opportunities Commission, the programme would never have been allowed to have been made, or at least he wouldn't have presented it. Do I sound racist for stating that? Someone has for a good 10yr. He got sent jail and called a racist.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 14:24:20 GMT
I suspect that if he was white and hadn't the PC credentials of having been chaired the Equal Opportunities Commission, the programme would never have been allowed to have been made, or at least he wouldn't have presented it. Do I sound racist for stating that? Someone has for a good 10yr. He got sent jail and called a racist. but he's never been imprisoned for "Being racist" has he???? he's been imprisoned for assault, drug offences, breaching bail conditions, entering the US illegally by using someone else's passport and spent 3 days in a Swiss jail for demonstrating on the FIFA HQ's rooftop (and the charge i believe was criminal damage) and then more recently for conspiracy to carry out mortgage fraud..... all of which he pleaded guilty to. so yes, he's been an advocate of free speech and opposed the idea that just by saying that certain groups need to be stopped that doesn't make you racist and yes he's been in prison but trying to lump the 2 together as if he's some kind of martyr for the cause is just 100% inaccurate. his prison time was for being a thug, a druggie and a conman...absolutely NOTHING to do with his "Cause" or "Beliefs"
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Post by kinetic on Mar 23, 2015 15:05:40 GMT
Someone has for a good 10yr. He got sent jail and called a racist. but he's never been imprisoned for "Being racist" has he???? he's been imprisoned for assault, drug offences, breaching bail conditions, entering the US illegally by using someone else's passport and spent 3 days in a Swiss jail for demonstrating on the FIFA HQ's rooftop (and the charge i believe was criminal damage) and then more recently for conspiracy to carry out mortgage fraud..... all of which he pleaded guilty to. so yes, he's been an advocate of free speech and opposed the idea that just by saying that certain groups need to be stopped that doesn't make you racist and yes he's been in prison but trying to lump the 2 together as if he's some kind of martyr for the cause is just 100% inaccurate. his prison time was for being a thug, a druggie and a conman...absolutely NOTHING to do with his "Cause" or "Beliefs" Not politically motivated arrests at all. Tommy travels to the States to give a speech using someone else's passport jail do not pass go. We got those 3 Muslim girls travelled out to Syria on STOLEN passports to take part in acts of terror what's the Met polices response to that ? "Come home girls we will not press charges". As for the rest of the charges are they worth speaking about bits of nothing. Leave ya with this video though where the arresting copper claimed to be assaulted ??? Look at him the violent thug. Oh that's right he does fuck all. Here's another police stich up as well.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 17:05:06 GMT
but he's never been imprisoned for "Being racist" has he???? he's been imprisoned for assault, drug offences, breaching bail conditions, entering the US illegally by using someone else's passport and spent 3 days in a Swiss jail for demonstrating on the FIFA HQ's rooftop (and the charge i believe was criminal damage) and then more recently for conspiracy to carry out mortgage fraud..... all of which he pleaded guilty to. so yes, he's been an advocate of free speech and opposed the idea that just by saying that certain groups need to be stopped that doesn't make you racist and yes he's been in prison but trying to lump the 2 together as if he's some kind of martyr for the cause is just 100% inaccurate. his prison time was for being a thug, a druggie and a conman...absolutely NOTHING to do with his "Cause" or "Beliefs" Not politically motivated arrests at all. Tommy travels to the States to give a speech using someone else's passport jail do not pass go. We got those 3 Muslim girls travelled out to Syria on STOLEN passports to take part in acts of terror what's the Met polices response to that ? "Come home girls we will not press charges". As for the rest of the charges are they worth speaking about bits of nothing. Leave ya with this video though where the arresting copper claimed to be assaulted ??? Look at him the violent thug. Oh that's right he does fuck all. Here's another police stich up as well. mate i'm not commenting on whether or not i agree with his stance/what he has to say, it's simply you trying to infer that his jail time was as a consequence of him being hard done to because of his beliefs when in reality they were simply because he was a common thug, drug dealer and fraudster. his beliefs and opinions had NOTHING to do with the fact he was sent to prison on several occasions
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Post by kinetic on Mar 23, 2015 22:01:51 GMT
Politically motivated arrest a nothing crime 18mth is someone taking the piss ?? Wasn't saying he got locked up for racism. That's almost imposable isn't it ? He was made out be a racist though. 2 videos there where he is supposed to have carried out acts of GBH ?? Thing is I conna see any ??
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Post by kinetic on Mar 23, 2015 22:09:56 GMT
Back to the op about ten things ya conna say about race. Labour getting in full swing in Rochdale Get the flag up ready for the British election.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 10:48:19 GMT
Politically motivated arrest a nothing crime 18mth is someone taking the piss ?? Wasn't saying he got locked up for racism. That's almost imposable isn't it ? He was made out be a racist though. 2 videos there where he is supposed to have carried out acts of GBH ?? Thing is I conna see any ?? well regardless as to what you can or can't see, he himself pleaded guilty to the assault charges that led to him being locked up, he also plead guilty to mortgage fraud and drug offences. for the 3rd time....his incarcerations had NOTHING to do with his beliefs or personal politics. they were completely separate matters
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Post by kinetic on Mar 24, 2015 11:17:24 GMT
Politically motivated arrest a nothing crime 18mth is someone taking the piss ?? Wasn't saying he got locked up for racism. That's almost imposable isn't it ? He was made out be a racist though. 2 videos there where he is supposed to have carried out acts of GBH ?? Thing is I conna see any ?? well regardless as to what you can or can't see, he himself pleaded guilty to the assault charges that led to him being locked up, he also plead guilty to mortgage fraud and drug offences. for the 3rd time....his incarcerations had NOTHING to do with his beliefs or personal politics. they were completely separate matters So you get sent jail for mortgage fraud but part of your bail conditions are to not contact any member of the EDL ? Makes sense are the EDL mortgage brokers now.
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Post by jonah77 on Mar 24, 2015 11:24:09 GMT
well regardless as to what you can or can't see, he himself pleaded guilty to the assault charges that led to him being locked up, he also plead guilty to mortgage fraud and drug offences. for the 3rd time....his incarcerations had NOTHING to do with his beliefs or personal politics. they were completely separate matters So you get sent jail for mortgage fraud but part of your bail conditions are to not contact any member of the EDL ? Makes sense are the EDL mortgage brokers now. To be fair kinetic, you have got a point there.
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Post by kinetic on Mar 24, 2015 11:41:48 GMT
So you get sent jail for mortgage fraud but part of your bail conditions are to not contact any member of the EDL ? Makes sense are the EDL mortgage brokers now. To be fair kinetic, you have got a point there. The sentence does not fit the crime either debatable if it even was a crime. All he did was lie on his brother in laws mortgage application stating he earned more PA than he actually did. I dare to say a few posters on here will have done it especially before 2008 when brokers were giving out 100% mortgages no deposit needed. Like say no body lost any money its a nothing crime. yet you got this fella a million pound stolen from mortgage company's. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2101009/Conman-dubbed-Del-Boy-ran-1m-mortgage-scam-council-lock-garage.htmlSame sentence 18mth only his was suspend so no jail. Tommy spent his 18mth in jail on solitary confinement !!against the law that is btw. Supposedly.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 14:41:14 GMT
To be fair kinetic, you have got a point there. The sentence does not fit the crime either debatable if it even was a crime. All he did was lie on his brother in laws mortgage application stating he earned more PA than he actually did. I dare to say a few posters on here will have done it especially before 2008 when brokers were giving out 100% mortgages no deposit needed. Like say no body lost any money its a nothing crime. yet you got this fella a million pound stolen from mortgage company's. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2101009/Conman-dubbed-Del-Boy-ran-1m-mortgage-scam-council-lock-garage.htmlSame sentence 18mth only his was suspend so no jail. Tommy spent his 18mth in jail on solitary confinement !!against the law that is btw. Supposedly. 1) That isn't all he did at all (you can't just make shit up kinetic). He made loans to people wanting to buy property and then gave them the details of a phoney mortgage broker who helped to secure fake payslips and pay details. he was attempting to obtain 2 mortgages worth over £160k.... a bit different to just adding an extra "0" to your income information! 2) the reason his sentence wasn't suspended is they don't tend to suspend sentences for people who've already been to prison on several occasions already 3) the reason he was in solitary is because HE feared for his life in prison and his own barrister recommended it. he'd made enemies within the EDL (which by then he'd left) and because he was on the wanted list by Al-Shabab. at least try to tell some of the truth kinetic instead of just intentionally omitting important facts just to suit your own argument! Jesus hates Christ!
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Post by bumhands on Mar 24, 2015 14:47:02 GMT
Admiiin!
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Post by followyoudown on Mar 24, 2015 14:50:03 GMT
To be fair kinetic, you have got a point there. The sentence does not fit the crime either debatable if it even was a crime. All he did was lie on his brother in laws mortgage application stating he earned more PA than he actually did. I dare to say a few posters on here will have done it especially before 2008 when brokers were giving out 100% mortgages no deposit needed. Like say no body lost any money its a nothing crime. yet you got this fella a million pound stolen from mortgage company's. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2101009/Conman-dubbed-Del-Boy-ran-1m-mortgage-scam-council-lock-garage.htmlSame sentence 18mth only his was suspend so no jail. Tommy spent his 18mth in jail on solitary confinement !!against the law that is btw. Supposedly. For someone so interested in the EDL you seem remarkably ill-informed. 1. Banned from contacting any member of the EDL while on bail, not unusual for someone who is associated with some sort of "gang" in most cases it's to prevent witnesses being intimidated. 2. No he didn't just lie on forms he put them in contact with someone who produced false pay slips and other documents, so no debate its fraud. 3. He spent his time in solitary confinement for his own protection being an ex-leader of the EDL probably doesn't go down very well with those prisoners he "campaigned" against.
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