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Post by partickpotter on Mar 18, 2015 12:31:44 GMT
Squad announced today; Jonathan Trott: England recall Warwickshire batsman. First warm up game is April 6 with the first of three tests starting in Antigua on the 13th. Trott's recall grabs the headlines, but there's places also for Rashid and Lyth from Yorkshire and Mark Wood a seamer from Durham. Must admit I don't know much about that last player. Stokes is also in. Bye Bye to Finn and Robson. Six Yorkies in that squad are part of a dominant North along with two each from Durham and Lancashire. Just three southerners! Thoughts? |
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Post by Northy on Mar 18, 2015 12:53:16 GMT
They are even shittier than England aren't they? Chance of a victory?
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Post by craig67 on Mar 18, 2015 12:57:53 GMT
Get rid of the 3 southerners and we might have a chance!
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Post by biddulphchav on Mar 18, 2015 16:45:54 GMT
Not sure about Trott - has he recovered from the trouncing the Aussie's gave him? Hopefully he has because we need a player like him at 4 in my opinion (or, like he was). Glad to see Stokes back in - lots of potential just a case of if he can realise it.
Windies are not up to much at all these days, we should be aiming for a series win to be honest.
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Post by Squeekster on Mar 18, 2015 18:01:01 GMT
Not sure about Trott - has he recovered from the trouncing the Aussie's gave him? Hopefully he has because we need a player like him at 4 in my opinion (or, like he was). Glad to see Stokes back in - lots of potential just a case of if he can realise it. Windies are not up to much at all these days, we should be aiming for a series win to be honest. Neither were Bangladesh,D'oh! |
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Post by ukcstokie on Mar 18, 2015 18:48:10 GMT
It's a different game test cricket though.
Good to see Rashid getting a chance. Not often we see a bit of leg spin for England - and can bat too.
Trott more likely to open or go three than four. Did he really get a trouncing from the Aussies. He left after the first test and may well will carry less scars than many on that tour?
Be interesting to see if Lyth is just going as cover/experience, another promising bat.
It's an interesting slightly different squad, but not a reaction to the ODI disaster (which it didn't need it to be).
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Post by ukcstokie on Mar 19, 2015 11:49:11 GMT
My team from that lot would be:
1. Cook
2. Trott
3. Ballance
4. Bell
5. Root
6. Stokes
7. Buttler
8. Rashid
9. Jordan/Wood/Plunkett
10. Broad
11. Anderson
Deep batting. 5 bowlers.
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Post by chamberlain on Mar 19, 2015 12:01:03 GMT
They should make them pay for the trip themselves , useless fuckers
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Post by ukcstokie on Mar 19, 2015 12:12:56 GMT
They should make them pay for the trip themselves , useless fuckers The problems with England's limited overs performances are far deeper than the individuals that were selected for WC. Them taking all the blame is just wrong. |
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Post by chamberlain on Mar 19, 2015 12:17:52 GMT
You maybe right UK and I am not being funny here what in your opinion are the issues regarding the performances in the WC
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Post by ukcstokie on Mar 19, 2015 12:29:07 GMT
You maybe right UK and I am not being funny here what in your opinion are the issues regarding the performances in the WC To start with (discussed ad nauseam on oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/240324/cricket-world-cup-2015):- the approach to limited over cricket. We've got an approach set out in 1980's. Score @ 4/over. Save wickets. Have a bash at the end if we've got wickets left. Target is 280. 280 is way below par in current cricket. 330-350 on decent wickets is needed. The best get around 400. - try pitching the bloody ball up. It's not rocket science but all our pace bowlers do it (and hence looks like a strategy rather than poor bowling). - use the T20 game to feed players into the ODI team, not the Test team. - Drop players out of form. Shouldn't matter who they are. This doesn't mean drop players after a couple of poor performances, but even senior players should feel the pressure of being dropped after a long run of sub-standard performances (take note Mr Cook, Bell, Trott, etc.). |
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Post by chamberlain on Mar 19, 2015 12:36:08 GMT
Ok mate , what is it then that stops the powers that be seeing this ? I notice that the interviews with Moores and Morgan were questioning the stats base approach to our game .
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Post by ukcstokie on Mar 19, 2015 14:49:28 GMT
Ok mate , what is it then that stops the powers that be seeing this ? I notice that the interviews with Moores and Morgan were questioning the stats base approach to our game . Clear out the old guard management team. Bring in a more progressive thinking coaches. See how Lehmann turned the Australians around following their disastrous Indian tour. Review the entire ODI and T20 domestic setup - learn from the IPL and Big Bash. Introduce proper programmes to identify and grow young fast and spin bowlers. Provide dedicated coaches - making sure we utilise big name ex-players who can inspire them (Warne, Holding, Botham, etc.), give them specialist time away from counties and clubs. Make sure they're not turned into fast medium fodder. |
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Post by partickpotter on Mar 22, 2015 11:01:30 GMT
I guess you could argue the current cricket in the UAE featuring Yorkshire, MCC and others is the start of warm up for the Windies tour. So good to see Cookie, after a startling performance in a T20 game (35 off 20 odd balls in a losing cause), get some valuable time at the crease in the classic season opening Champions (Yorkshire) v MCC game. Or, not, as was the case. Out for 3 off 6 balls.
Reminder to Cap'n Cook. Let your bat do the talking.
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Post by partickpotter on Mar 25, 2015 7:02:34 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 7, 2015 5:59:38 GMT
Cook Report update; first game of the tour now underway and a good day for England against the might of St Kitts & Nevis Invitational XI. First up we bowled them out for just 59, then compiled 181-1 in reply by close of play with Cap'n Cook unbeaten in 95.
Trott also got some runs opening with Cook. This is just a two day game so I wonder what England will do later today - probably bat a session and a half to allow some more batsmen to get a knock (Cook will retire after completing his ton I'm sure) and then let the bowlers have a second blast. No one got much of a bowl in the first innings.
First test less than a week away!
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Post by ukcstokie on Apr 7, 2015 10:22:50 GMT
Cook Report update; first game of the tour now underway and a good day for England against the might of St Kitts & Nevis Invitational XI. First up we bowled them out for just 59, then compiled 181-1 in reply by close of play with Cap'n Cook unbeaten in 95. Trott also got some runs opening with Cook. This is just a two day game so I wonder what England will do later today - probably bat a session and a half to allow some more batsmen to get a knock (Cook will retire after completing his ton I'm sure) and then let the bowlers have a second blast. No one got much of a bowl in the first innings. First test less than a week away! If we don't do well in this series then question really have to be asked about the preparation. Two two-day warm up matches against a St Kitts & Nevis Invitation XI, both in St Kitts really isn't how you get yourselves ready for a test series is it? |
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Post by partickpotter on Apr 7, 2015 16:42:41 GMT
Cook Report update; first game of the tour now underway and a good day for England against the might of St Kitts & Nevis Invitational XI. First up we bowled them out for just 59, then compiled 181-1 in reply by close of play with Cap'n Cook unbeaten in 95. Trott also got some runs opening with Cook. This is just a two day game so I wonder what England will do later today - probably bat a session and a half to allow some more batsmen to get a knock (Cook will retire after completing his ton I'm sure) and then let the bowlers have a second blast. No one got much of a bowl in the first innings. First test less than a week away! If we don't do well in this series then question really have to be asked about the preparation. Two two-day warm up matches against a St Kitts & Nevis Invitation XI, both in St Kitts really isn't how you get yourselves ready for a test series is it? Seems like get your eye in practice - I'm not sure the Windies will have had much more preparation though. Two under cooked teams. No pun intended. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 17:00:50 GMT
Well played Alistair , not the most testing of opposition in preperation for a Test Series , but a hundred is a hundred  |
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Post by ukcstokie on Apr 7, 2015 17:28:17 GMT
Well played Alistair , not the most testing of opposition in preperation for a Test Series , but a hundred is a hundred Let's hope it gives him confidence to get some runs in the tests. Cook getting runs will begin to give the Aussies some doubts for the summer. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 17:31:08 GMT
Well played Alistair , not the most testing of opposition in preperation for a Test Series , but a hundred is a hundred Let's hope it gives him confidence to get some runs in the tests. Cook getting runs will begin to give the Aussies some doubts for the summer. Let's hope so . |
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Post by ukcstokie on Apr 7, 2015 17:35:15 GMT
Let's hope it gives him confidence to get some runs in the tests. Cook getting runs will begin to give the Aussies some doubts for the summer. Let's hope so . The old guard (Cook, Bell, Broad, Anderson) getting some form is our only chance for the summer a fear. Cook needs to lead the way. |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 7, 2015 17:44:46 GMT
Nice to see Cooky scoring some runs,
With the depleted squad they have due to the IPL starting, we should really roll these guys over. New Zealand at home is where the hard work is going to really start.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 18:43:41 GMT
The old guard (Cook, Bell, Broad, Anderson) getting some form is our only chance for the summer a fear. Cook needs to lead the way. And Trott |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 18:46:10 GMT
Nice to see Cooky scoring some runs, With the depleted squad they have due to the IPL starting, we should really roll these guys over. New Zealand at home is where the hard work is going to really start. But really , New Zealand in Tests are much less formidable than they are in limited overs cricket , we should be able to beat them comfortably as well . |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 7, 2015 19:13:11 GMT
Nice to see Cooky scoring some runs, With the depleted squad they have due to the IPL starting, we should really roll these guys over. New Zealand at home is where the hard work is going to really start. But really , New Zealand in Tests are much less formidable than they are in limited overs cricket , we should be able to beat them comfortably as well . They're unbeaten in Test Series since they last came here in 2013, that includes a visit to the UAE where they drew with Pakistan immediately after Australia got rolled there, they've beaten Sri Lanka at home 2-0, something we singularly failed to do. Boult and Southee are going to thrive in English conditions, Kane Williamson is one of the best young batsmen in the world and McCullum is fresh from scoring 1000 runs in just 9 test matches including a triple century. I agree I think we'll win but I think it's going to be a bit tough. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 19:59:00 GMT
But really , New Zealand in Tests are much less formidable than they are in limited overs cricket , we should be able to beat them comfortably as well . They're unbeaten in Test Series since they last came here in 2013, that includes a visit to the UAE where they drew with Pakistan immediately after Australia got rolled there, they've beaten Sri Lanka at home 2-0, something we singularly failed to do. Boult and Southee are going to thrive in English conditions, Kane Williamson is one of the best young batsmen in the world and McCullum is fresh from scoring 1000 runs in just 9 test matches including a triple century. I agree I think we'll win but I think it's going to be a bit tough. Don't get me wrong mate ....I'm not suggesting a walkover , they have had a decent couple of years or so and some of their players are performing well at the moment , but two of their four test series wins in that time have been against the West Indies , something that would have been unthinkable a few years ago .McCullum's form has been phenomenal over those last few games , but good player though he is , I think we can put this down to a " purple patch " his record from around 80 odd previous Tests with an average of 38 supports this ( let's hope so ) , Williamson is a good player I agree , we should still have too much for them though I think , but of course it's by no means certain . |
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Apr 7, 2015 20:51:56 GMT
They're unbeaten in Test Series since they last came here in 2013, that includes a visit to the UAE where they drew with Pakistan immediately after Australia got rolled there, they've beaten Sri Lanka at home 2-0, something we singularly failed to do. Boult and Southee are going to thrive in English conditions, Kane Williamson is one of the best young batsmen in the world and McCullum is fresh from scoring 1000 runs in just 9 test matches including a triple century. I agree I think we'll win but I think it's going to be a bit tough. Don't get me wrong mate ....I'm not suggesting a walkover , they have had a decent couple of years or so and some of their players are performing well at the moment , but two of their four test series wins in that time have been against the West Indies , something that would have been unthinkable a few years ago .McCullum's form has been phenomenal over those last few games , but good player though he is , I think we can put this down to a " purple patch " his record from around 80 odd previous Tests with an average of 38 supports this ( let's hope so ) , Williamson is a good player I agree , we should still have too much for them though I think , but of course it's by no means certain . Whatever happens mate, they'll probably be stiff opposition than this Dog and Duck XI that we have 55/7....again  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2015 21:05:02 GMT
Don't get me wrong mate ....I'm not suggesting a walkover , they have had a decent couple of years or so and some of their players are performing well at the moment , but two of their four test series wins in that time have been against the West Indies , something that would have been unthinkable a few years ago .McCullum's form has been phenomenal over those last few games , but good player though he is , I think we can put this down to a " purple patch " his record from around 80 odd previous Tests with an average of 38 supports this ( let's hope so ) , Williamson is a good player I agree , we should still have too much for them though I think , but of course it's by no means certain . Whatever happens mate, they'll probably be stiff opposition than this Dog and Duck XI that we have 55/7....again Agreed .....who on earth has scheduled such a dreadful warm up ? Only two two day games against lamentable opposition ....  it just gets worse |
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 7, 2015 21:12:01 GMT
Whatever happens mate, they'll probably be stiff opposition than this Dog and Duck XI that we have 55/7....again Agreed .....who on earth has scheduled such a dreadful warm up ? Only two two day games against lamentable opposition .... it just gets worse When are you back Bish |
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it just gets worse 
