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Post by mailman44 on Mar 28, 2015 1:54:55 GMT
Lads, According to Adrian,the club liasion officer, the "club" prefers to have supporter's clubs based on cities, they don't like us spread out all over North America. Why the"club" would want 6 clubs with @ 10 members as opposed to one with 150 I don't know. If you ask me typical small time ambitions from this club again. Look no further than the club shop to see what I am talking about.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 28, 2015 4:31:39 GMT
So its a no go? Whats the downside of a USA Supporters Branch? Damn, way to make us Yanks feel wanted.
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Post by mailman44 on Mar 28, 2015 17:29:15 GMT
It seems to me "the club" would rather say we have 15 supporters clubs in the States with a total of 45 members vice a North American club of 100+
Issue is that these fifteen clubs consist on average of a family of four and a household pet or two .....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2015 18:41:51 GMT
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 8, 2015 21:09:58 GMT
GIS is a great company
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Post by mailman44 on Apr 8, 2015 21:34:17 GMT
No don't know them. Surprised we haven't done this with Orlando City's youth setup. By all accounts it is a very good program.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2015 21:38:49 GMT
No don't know them. Surprised we haven't done this with Orlando City's youth setup. By all accounts it is a very good program. They're mates with Benfica officially, not us.
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Post by kustokie on Apr 8, 2015 21:53:01 GMT
What load of old cobblers. What's to stop us forming our own supporters club? I assume there would be restrictions on using SCFC logos and such. Otherwise, seems to me we can do what we like.
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Post by ange1 on Apr 8, 2015 21:58:41 GMT
If you take a look at the club website, you will see that we have branches in several US cities and Bermuda. In addition fans from overseas do have access to match tickets if you read the minutes of the supporters council meetings or maybe I have missed something. Apologies if that is the case
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Post by mailman44 on Apr 8, 2015 21:58:44 GMT
What load of old cobblers. What's to stop us forming our own supporters club? I assume there would be restrictions on using SCFC logos and such. Otherwise, seems to me we can do what we like. Sure we can go rogue lads but we won't get any support from the club and access to match tickets which was a big draw. Bayern Oatcake needs to get off his a$$ and head down to Clayton Wood and have a quiet word. Go'arn Bayern, "let's be 'avin ya ...."
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2015 22:01:28 GMT
Erm........
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Post by mailman44 on Apr 8, 2015 22:02:54 GMT
Oh you are turning your back on your Yank cousins too? You really need to start doing "what is on the tin."
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2015 22:04:29 GMT
I'd go rogue.......it's how your great nation started anyhow!
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Post by mailman44 on Apr 9, 2015 0:59:30 GMT
Bayern: do your duty!
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Post by ncpotter on Apr 9, 2015 1:49:18 GMT
Start it up anyway, they'll come around. If it's just for tickets sign up for the membership - it's free. In any case, I've found the club to be very accommodating to overseas supporters. They did us proud for the FA Cup Final. I also made a last minute trip over in time for a sold out ManUre game and they obliged. Just be nice I've always been a bit evangelical about pushing Stoke as the team to follow. There's so much interest in the Premier League right now that the wannabe fans are there for the picking. You can get ManU, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal shirts but that's about it. Now having a Stoke shirt makes you stand out. With the club currently selling this seasons shirts at cost I did a push and got requests for 22 shirts. Now those are going to be the 22 coolest kids on the block. More efforts like that and we'll build up a head of steam that the club will eventually acknowledge.
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Post by ncpotter on Apr 9, 2015 2:56:26 GMT
stokemanusa - are you affiliated with GIS? I should get in touch with them about affiliating with my local organization - CASL. For the longest time they were sponsored by Chelsea. The complex had a big f*** off 30' x 30' Chelsea sign and cars everywhere with CASL bumper stickers plastered with the Chelsea badge on it. The relationship has ended so would be great to turn this part of North Carolina into a Stokie haven.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 9, 2015 6:27:52 GMT
The weakness in the club wanting "City based" supporters clubs in the USA (and Canada) is that many Stokies probably don't live in or near cities. As someone said further up this page, many such "clubs" if they were formed would consist AT BEST of a family group plus, if they are really lucky, the baby sitter or a neighbour. Surely the Supporter's Council and the North American based fans should open a PROPER dialogue about this so that the Supporter's Council can fully understand the problem. The odd interjection on this thread by Ange1 (Supporters' Council Chair) DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A PROPER DIALOGUE. Can I suggest that Ange1 and Mailman44 PM one another and exchange email addresses and start a proper dialogue. It will need to be done carefully with both of them consulting with their own people on a) the supporters' council and b) fans in N America. Keep it democratic and, hopefully, the two sides can agree a set of proposals to discuss with the club. Ideally - the fans should be given a continent wide club if they so wish and, in time, if that club expands its membership , then it can split into geographic clubs covering smaller areas. Personally, I doubt if city based clubs, in more than a few big cities, will be viable for many years. Ironic, how Stoke City want a very slow incremental approach to stadium expansion, but a "big bang" approach to supporters clubs in N America.
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Post by ange1 on Apr 9, 2015 11:31:47 GMT
Happy to have dialogue at any time, you can use chair@scfcsc.co.uk and I'll e mail by pm my personal address
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Post by mailman44 on Apr 9, 2015 11:49:40 GMT
The weakness in the club wanting "City based" supporters clubs in the USA (and Canada) is that many Stokies probably don't live in or near cities. As someone said further up this page, many such "clubs" if they were formed would consist AT BEST of a family group plus, if they are really lucky, the baby sitter or a neighbour. Surely the Supporter's Council and the North American based fans should open a PROPER dialogue about this so that the Supporter's Council can fully understand the problem. The odd interjection on this thread by Ange1 (Supporters' Council Chair) DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A PROPER DIALOGUE. Can I suggest that Ange1 and Mailman44 PM one another and exchange email addresses and start a proper dialogue. It will need to be done carefully with both of them consulting with their own people on a) the supporters' council and b) fans in N America. Keep it democratic and, hopefully, the two sides can agree a set of proposals to discuss with the club. Ideally - the fans should be given a continent wide club if they so wish and, in time, if that club expands its membership , then it can split into geographic clubs covering smaller areas. Personally, I doubt if city based clubs, in more than a few big cities, will be viable for many years. Ironic, how Stoke City want a very slow incremental approach to stadium expansion, but a "big bang" approach to supporters clubs in N America. [/quote) "Nail on head, Son ... Nail on head ..."
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 12:09:04 GMT
Do it away guys it seems rather petty so say no, good on yer.
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Post by mailman44 on Apr 9, 2015 12:09:46 GMT
Bayern (1860)you big wind bag, thanks for nothing!
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Post by heisenberg88 on Apr 9, 2015 14:37:06 GMT
"USA supportes branch". What happens in one of these? Can imagine a load yanks dressed in Stoke clobber meeting up every Tuesday night to discuss all things Stoke. Like a bunch of nerds turning up for comic book conventions haha
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Post by ashleyscfc on Apr 9, 2015 14:45:17 GMT
Seems a great idea if you can get any support from the club to get it off the ground. Sort of thing that shows we lack the knowledge of how these sort of things work. Perhaps get some help from Orlando City?
Good luck folks
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 15:40:49 GMT
"USA supportes branch". What happens in one of these? Can imagine a load yanks dressed in Stoke clobber meeting up every Tuesday night to discuss all things Stoke. Like a bunch of nerds turning up for comic book conventions haha The same as most people do when attending a match but theses guys cant get over every week
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 9, 2015 15:42:11 GMT
Bayern (1860)you big wind bag, thanks for nothing! You've got Ange, he holds much more sway than I do and I did bump this back to the top! I have no idea what he's saying, it's the gun shooting I've put it in for!
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Post by mailman44 on Apr 9, 2015 21:29:55 GMT
"USA supportes branch". What happens in one of these? Can imagine a load yanks dressed in Stoke clobber meeting up every Tuesday night to discuss all things Stoke. Like a bunch of nerds turning up for comic book conventions haha Due to how myopic the majority of the posters are on here and their anti-USA bias we are the North American Branch.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 10, 2015 7:15:39 GMT
stokemanusa - are you affiliated with GIS? I should get in touch with them about affiliating with my local organization - CASL. For the longest time they were sponsored by Chelsea. The complex had a big f*** off 30' x 30' Chelsea sign and cars everywhere with CASL bumper stickers plastered with the Chelsea badge on it. The relationship has ended so would be great to turn this part of North Carolina into a Stokie haven. I know several people who work for them, I used to be a branding consultant for them in their infancy (When I lived in Orlando) To be honest their staff are great (at least when I was there) and they "always" field replies. Contact them with your organization's details and goals if your able, a nice little letter in their contact sect and direction to your site there and they'll surely get back to you. I know of the FC Spokane academy camp this upcoming July 21st, I'll be attending and also "working" for my new outfit. Interesting though Players who excel will get a tryout at Stoke's Academy which is cool. One thing I know GIS are always looking to find new sponsorships and or camps to expand their clients brand. (ie Stoke) I remember when they had the first US tour it was awesome over here. Unfortunately it looks like Singapore is going to get the love this offseason with friendlies but I'd love to have a US tour again and a contingent all meet up.
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 10, 2015 7:16:59 GMT
"USA supportes branch". What happens in one of these? Can imagine a load yanks dressed in Stoke clobber meeting up every Tuesday night to discuss all things Stoke. Like a bunch of nerds turning up for comic book conventions haha Due to how myopic the majority of the posters are on here and their anti-USA bias we are the North American Branch. Try being a half-breed... For years and even now people still think I was born in the us... It took several years for people to get Stoke-man-(in)usa...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 10, 2015 8:01:59 GMT
How does it work though? We can't get permits for fully fledged internationals, how do you get one for an American kid?
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 10, 2015 8:16:56 GMT
How does it work though? We can't get permits for fully fledged internationals, how do you get one for an American kid? www.globalimagesports.com/02/overseas-opportunities-for-young-soccer-players/Basically, get paid to go to school, get in the academy prove your worth to say the US National side in under -21's outside of club development and get a permit, or you can go the EU route and get in quicker...
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