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Post by mailman44 on Mar 18, 2015 0:41:31 GMT
I'm in, I'll support a fancy 8th placed fancy team. Philly 'burbs. You don't have to be American do you? Welcome aboard lad. No you do not have to be American, just a passionate supporter of Stoke City Football Club. Although you CANNOT be 1860 Oatcake aka Bayern Oatcake because he has shamelessly slagged off Charlie Adam(s), Geoff Cameron, and Brek Shea,
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 1:15:51 GMT
He is a trouble maker, but he still manages to get a Nobel peace prize whilst being the leader of a country engaged in, at least, 2 wars at the same time. That's some skill right there! You're kidding me, right? Not about his deserving a Nobel peace prize.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 18, 2015 1:34:04 GMT
You're kidding me, right? Not about his deserving a Nobel peace prize. I don't give a shit about his Nobel Peace Prize. He was the first one to admit it should have gone elsewhere. He's doing his job, and his number one job is keeping us safe. That includes you, since you are currently residing in this country that you hate. Feel free to go home any fucking time you'd like. I'd love to see what you would do in his position, given the cards he was dealt.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 2:35:51 GMT
Not about his deserving a Nobel peace prize. I don't give a shit about his Nobel Peace Prize. He was the first one to admit it should have gone elsewhere. He's doing his job, and his number one job is keeping us safe. That includes you, since you are currently residing in this country that you hate. Feel free to go home any fucking time you'd like. I'd love to see what you would do in his position, given the cards he was dealt. Hey, fuck off! I do not hate America 1 bit. And he's a shit President who is on vacation more than he works and was unqualified for the job in the first place, having only been a Senator a short time and a Councillor before that. His idea of doing his job is handling a situation by doing nothing about it and have another round of golf! Do you really think the world is a safer place since he became President? Just look at how the enemies of America have acted, knowing he was a President that wouldn't do anything about it? I wouldn't call his pulling troops out of Iraq prematurely and letting it turn into a terrorist haven, appeasing Iran & Cuba, giving the Russians a free hand, giving the Taliban a return date and sacrificing U.S. Ambassadors lives, to keep a low security profile at Embassy compounds is keeping anyone safe! His election campaign of closing Gitmo and not drilling for oil in the gulf, shows his true character. Anything to get elected and do what you like afterwards. How long does it take to close 1 prison camp, the promise of which was a cornerstone of his campaign? Don't confuse not liking Obama, not liking people abusing the national anthem, or people who bad mouth Britain with not liking America. I don't like you, but that doesn't mean I think all Americans are dicks and it certainly doesn't mean I therefore hate America, when that's far from the truth! I just care about Britain too, so when you go spewing shit about kicking Britain's ass, you should expect some back of what you're dishing out and if you don't like it, you can read the top line again!
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Post by mailman44 on Mar 18, 2015 3:00:54 GMT
Not about his deserving a Nobel peace prize. I don't give a shit about his Nobel Peace Prize. He was the first one to admit it should have gone elsewhere. He's doing his job, and his number one job is keeping us safe. That includes you, since you are currently residing in this country that you hate. Feel free to go home any fucking time you'd like. I'd love to see what you would do in his position, given the cards he was dealt. Hartzy Hartzy ..... Why do you get yourself so wound up on politics? Focus on Stoke lad!
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 18, 2015 3:58:45 GMT
I don't give a shit about his Nobel Peace Prize. He was the first one to admit it should have gone elsewhere. He's doing his job, and his number one job is keeping us safe. That includes you, since you are currently residing in this country that you hate. Feel free to go home any fucking time you'd like. I'd love to see what you would do in his position, given the cards he was dealt. Hartzy Hartzy ..... Why do you get yourself so wound up on politics? Focus on Stoke lad! My bad. I thought I was dealing with a semi rational human being who at least somewhat knew what the fuck he was talking about. I obviously was not. Sorry Mailman, should've kept it out of your thread.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 4:03:00 GMT
Hartzy Hartzy ..... Why do you get yourself so wound up on politics? Focus on Stoke lad! My bad. I thought I was dealing with a semi rational human being who at least somewhat knew what the fuck he was talking about. I obviously was not. Sorry Mailman, should've kept it out of your thread. You mean you realized you've started talking to yourself again?
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 18, 2015 4:12:01 GMT
I don't give a shit about his Nobel Peace Prize. He was the first one to admit it should have gone elsewhere. He's doing his job, and his number one job is keeping us safe. That includes you, since you are currently residing in this country that you hate. Feel free to go home any fucking time you'd like. I'd love to see what you would do in his position, given the cards he was dealt. Hey, fuck off! I do not hate America 1 bit. And he's a shit President who is on vacation more than he works and was unqualified for the job in the first place, having only been a Senator a short time and a Councillor before that. His idea of doing his job is handling a situation by doing nothing about it and have another round of golf! Do you really think the world is a safer place since he became President? Just look at how the enemies of America have acted, knowing he was a President that wouldn't do anything about it? I wouldn't call his pulling troops out of Iraq prematurely and letting it turn into a terrorist haven, appeasing Iran & Cuba, giving the Russians a free hand, giving the Taliban a return date and sacrificing U.S. Ambassadors lives, to keep a low security profile at Embassy compounds is keeping anyone safe! His election campaign of closing Gitmo and not drilling for oil in the gulf, shows his true character. Anything to get elected and do what you like afterwards. How long does it take to close 1 prison camp, the promise of which was a cornerstone of his campaign? Don't confuse not liking Obama, not liking people abusing the national anthem, or people who bad mouth Britain with not liking America. I don't like you, but that doesn't mean I think all Americans are dicks and it certainly doesn't mean I therefore hate America, when that's far from the truth! I just care about Britain too, so when you go spewing shit about kicking Britain's ass, you should expect some back of what you're dishing out and if you don't like it, you can read the top line again! I'm done trying to rationalize with you, Masochist. You really are an idiot. Compare his vacation days with W, who got us into this fucking mess to begin with. As of right now, 125 to 407, dumbass. Sacrificing U.S. Ambassadors lives? I only wish I'd have known the depths of your stupidity before I got into this. Turned out to be a complete waste of my time. You're painfully stupid.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 4:32:11 GMT
Hey, fuck off! I do not hate America 1 bit. And he's a shit President who is on vacation more than he works and was unqualified for the job in the first place, having only been a Senator a short time and a Councillor before that. His idea of doing his job is handling a situation by doing nothing about it and have another round of golf! Do you really think the world is a safer place since he became President? Just look at how the enemies of America have acted, knowing he was a President that wouldn't do anything about it? I wouldn't call his pulling troops out of Iraq prematurely and letting it turn into a terrorist haven, appeasing Iran & Cuba, giving the Russians a free hand, giving the Taliban a return date and sacrificing U.S. Ambassadors lives, to keep a low security profile at Embassy compounds is keeping anyone safe! His election campaign of closing Gitmo and not drilling for oil in the gulf, shows his true character. Anything to get elected and do what you like afterwards. How long does it take to close 1 prison camp, the promise of which was a cornerstone of his campaign? Don't confuse not liking Obama, not liking people abusing the national anthem, or people who bad mouth Britain with not liking America. I don't like you, but that doesn't mean I think all Americans are dicks and it certainly doesn't mean I therefore hate America, when that's far from the truth! I just care about Britain too, so when you go spewing shit about kicking Britain's ass, you should expect some back of what you're dishing out and if you don't like it, you can read the top line again! I'm done trying to rationalize with you, Masochist. You really are an idiot. Compare his vacation days with W, who got us into this fucking mess to begin with. As of right now, 125 to 407, dumbass. Sacrificing U.S. Ambassadors lives? I only wish I'd have known the depths of your stupidity before I got into this. Turned out to be a complete waste of my time. You're painfully stupid. You went to the absolute last resort for a response. Weak.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 18, 2015 4:37:30 GMT
I'm done trying to rationalize with you, Masochist. You really are an idiot. Compare his vacation days with W, who got us into this fucking mess to begin with. As of right now, 125 to 407, dumbass. Sacrificing U.S. Ambassadors lives? I only wish I'd have known the depths of your stupidity before I got into this. Turned out to be a complete waste of my time. You're painfully stupid. You went to the absolute last resort for a response. Weak. I expected just that type of response.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 4:40:18 GMT
You went to the absolute last resort for a response. Weak. I expected just that type of response. And I expected that exact sentence, including the period and in the response time you replied.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 18, 2015 4:41:23 GMT
I'm done trying to rationalize with you, Masochist. You really are an idiot. Compare his vacation days with W, who got us into this fucking mess to begin with. As of right now, 125 to 407, dumbass. Sacrificing U.S. Ambassadors lives? I only wish I'd have known the depths of your stupidity before I got into this. Turned out to be a complete waste of my time. You're painfully stupid. You went to the absolute last resort for a response. Weak. My posts are based on facts, yours in hyperbole. Whatever works for you.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 4:43:49 GMT
You went to the absolute last resort for a response. Weak. My posts are based on facts, yours in hyperbole. Whatever works for you. Except there isn't a single fact, or anything relevant in this, especially the 2 wrongs make a right fallacy regarding Bush: -
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 18, 2015 4:49:07 GMT
My posts are based on facts, yours in hyperbole. Whatever works for you. Except there isn't a single fact, or anything relevant in this, especially the 2 wrongs make a right fallacy regarding Bush: - If you're so anti Obama, so anti U.S., tell me what you would do different? And then explain to me why you're in my country? Making some nice coin, I assume?
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 4:55:07 GMT
Except there isn't a single fact, or anything relevant in this, especially the 2 wrongs make a right fallacy regarding Bush: - If you're so anti Obama, so anti U.S., tell me what you would do different? And then explain to me why you're in my country? Making some nice coin, I assume? Anti-U.S.? Where? Anti-Obama is not anti-U.S, get that straight for a start! There's no corollary there. Does it make you anti-U.S. for not liking George W Bush?
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 18, 2015 4:58:08 GMT
Except there isn't a single fact, or anything relevant in this, especially the 2 wrongs make a right fallacy regarding Bush: - If you're so anti Obama, so anti U.S., tell me what you would do different? And then explain to me why you're in my country? Making some nice coin, I assume? This is getting tedious, even for me. Let's end this. Who won the American Revolutionary War? One word answer please.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 18, 2015 5:00:35 GMT
If you're so anti Obama, so anti U.S., tell me what you would do different? And then explain to me why you're in my country? Making some nice coin, I assume? Anti-U.S.? Where? Anti-Obama is not anti-U.S, get that straight for a start! There's no corollary there. Does it make you anti-U.S. for not liking George W Bush? No, it makes me part of the majority.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 5:03:13 GMT
If you're so anti Obama, so anti U.S., tell me what you would do different? And then explain to me why you're in my country? Making some nice coin, I assume? This is getting tedious, even for me. Let's end this. Who won the American Revolutionary War? One word answer please. Are you asking me, because you're replying to your own posts. Maybe you're talking to yourself again? What's the relevance of the question and if it is in any way relevant, what's the definition of winning, because some would say, the Canadians won, by not revolting against Britain in the first place and don't suffer many of the problems America faces as a consequence.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 5:04:21 GMT
Anti-U.S.? Where? Anti-Obama is not anti-U.S, get that straight for a start! There's no corollary there. Does it make you anti-U.S. for not liking George W Bush? No, it makes me part of the majority. So that's a NO then!
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Post by thedeadlyshart on Mar 18, 2015 5:46:44 GMT
I conna get on board with all this shit of Yanks 'supporting' us. None of you were here when we were shit in the past, and none of you will be here when we're shit again in the future. You'll all reinvent your stories of how you didn't want to support one of the big, successful teams & 'x-team' appealed to you blah-de-blah. Enjoy your bandwagon, I doubt anyone will notice when you've fallen off. Speak for yourself, but don't speak for me. I'll still be supporting this team if and when we go down a division or two or three. And when that time comes we'll see who's still along for the ride.
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 6:12:30 GMT
I conna get on board with all this shit of Yanks 'supporting' us. None of you were here when we were shit in the past, and none of you will be here when we're shit again in the future. You'll all reinvent your stories of how you didn't want to support one of the big, successful teams & 'x-team' appealed to you blah-de-blah. Enjoy your bandwagon, I doubt anyone will notice when you've fallen off. Speak for yourself, but don't speak for me. I'll still be supporting this team if and when we go down a division or two or three. And when that time comes we'll see who's still along for the ride. Here's hoping you never get to test that theory.
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Post by Linx on Mar 18, 2015 6:58:25 GMT
All I know is, I was in the States in 2008 and its economy was on the floor (and this was before the Stock Market collapse). The dollar was incredibly weak, which meant that everything was half price for me as a British tourist and everyone I spoke to, who happened to be low-paid shop assistants or small business owners, were very pessimistic, worried about health care, rising taxes, negligible pensions, and going out of business. When I was there in 2011, things were a lot better and people seemed a lot happier.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 18, 2015 7:09:30 GMT
Why are you North American Stokies letting a Manchester United fan wind you up on a thread which is supposed to be about starting a North American Stoke supporters group? Same goes for the Drunken Communist. Do you really think that he is a drunken communist? I doubt it! So, if you don't believe he is what he says he is, why should you believe he means what he says? Not like Americans to take their eye off the ball like this. I've usually found Americans to be pretty concentrated on what they are trying to achieve - even if I might not always agree with what they are trying to achieve. I can only conclude that the infiltration of Stokie blood into North America has diluted your normal clear headedness. Now get back to the point - get your club up and running - and work out a way to raise the funds to pay my expenses to get over there to be guest speaker at your first annual dinner.
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Post by tijuanabrass on Mar 18, 2015 7:33:46 GMT
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Post by mailman44 on Mar 18, 2015 11:08:50 GMT
Aye up Duck?
Any last stragglers want to get on board the North American Oatcake Stoke Supporters Association? Going to turn in numbers this evening to the club.
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Post by stokeny on Mar 18, 2015 15:11:02 GMT
mailman44 the Stoke City USA Facebook page has over 1,100 members. I suspect most of them are our American cousins, whereas on here there are lots of expats. If you went on there you might get some takers
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 15:17:36 GMT
Why are you North American Stokies letting a Manchester United fan wind you up on a thread which is supposed to be about starting a North American Stoke supporters group? Same goes for the Drunken Communist. Do you really think that he is a drunken communist? I doubt it! So, if you don't believe he is what he says he is, why should you believe he means what he says? Not like Americans to take their eye off the ball like this. I've usually found Americans to be pretty concentrated on what they are trying to achieve - even if I might not always agree with what they are trying to achieve. I can only conclude that the infiltration of Stokie blood into North America has diluted your normal clear headedness. Now get back to the point - get your club up and running - and work out a way to raise the funds to pay my expenses to get over there to be guest speaker at your first annual dinner. Wait, he starts by bad mouthing Britain and I'm the one on a wind up, because of something that wasn't even being discussed?
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Post by dutchstokie on Mar 18, 2015 15:20:34 GMT
Why are you North American Stokies letting a Manchester United fan wind you up on a thread which is supposed to be about starting a North American Stoke supporters group? Same goes for the Drunken Communist. Do you really think that he is a drunken communist? I doubt it! So, if you don't believe he is what he says he is, why should you believe he means what he says? Not like Americans to take their eye off the ball like this. I've usually found Americans to be pretty concentrated on what they are trying to achieve - even if I might not always agree with what they are trying to achieve. I can only conclude that the infiltration of Stokie blood into North America has diluted your normal clear headedness. Now get back to the point - get your club up and running - and work out a way to raise the funds to pay my expenses to get over there to be guest speaker at your first annual dinner. First annual dinner: Attachment Deleted
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Post by stokefaninde on Mar 18, 2015 15:30:55 GMT
I'm pretty sure George Washington wasn't a farmer. In fact, he was a British officer, who defected to the insurgents because he was passed over for promotion. I imagine if a U.S. soldier did that today, you'd call him a traitor instead of a founding father? I think Canada is a good example of how the natives would have been treated, considering it is exactly how they were treated, which is much, much better than in the south, after all, they fought alongside the British to defeat the American invasion of 1812. And yes, the U.S has the largest and strongest military in the world that cannot win a war against a bunch of uneducated farmers in Afghanistan, with far better equipment and logistics capabilities than sailing boats across the Atlantic. So Washington was an act of vandalism? OK, so they didn't just get their ass kicked, but vandalized? Fine! I'm a member of the USA Supporters Branch for one day, and already you've got me in trouble with the Head Honch. Thanks a lot. I'm done with this. George Washington wasn't a farmer, but his 'soldiers' sure were. Yes, Canada fought alongside the British in 1812. They were a British colony. And the severe thunderstorms that put out the fires and the tornado that chased you out of the city just prove that God was on our side. OK now I'm done.
I'm a day late on this but the History teacher in me can't let it go. Washington was a farmer.. I've been on his farm at Mount Vernon many times!
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Post by manumasochist on Mar 18, 2015 15:40:47 GMT
I'm a member of the USA Supporters Branch for one day, and already you've got me in trouble with the Head Honch. Thanks a lot. I'm done with this. George Washington wasn't a farmer, but his 'soldiers' sure were. Yes, Canada fought alongside the British in 1812. They were a British colony. And the severe thunderstorms that put out the fires and the tornado that chased you out of the city just prove that God was on our side. OK now I'm done.
I'm a day late on this but the History teacher in me can't let it go. Washington was a farmer.. I've been on his farm at Mount Vernon many times! Wasn't it more that his family owned a farm, or plantation that he inherited? I thought his family were quite wealthy and he didn't so much as farm, as was the son of an owner and inherited it all and those that actually farmed the land were slaves? So, he may have had some farming skills, but not to the level of actually doing the farming himself and his career wasn't that of a farmer who happened to join up because of the revolution. He was in fact, a serving British officer with many campaigns against the French. Not that it makes the slightest bit of difference. mind!
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