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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 11:30:07 GMT
see you keep mentioning that as if it's some kind of get out clause... "Some people break other laws so therefore it's fine for every one to do anything they want". i don't think anyone on this thread has said that it's fine for people to smoke have they? it's a bizarre logic really; "Fuck it, people get away with burgling so therefore i'm ok to go and murder someone". it's a completely and utterly, 100% false logic you're using mate. if you really don't like people smoking then fine, do something about it or start a thread on it but if you can't be arsed then fine. the difference is that many on here ARE arsed about smoke bombs so they voice their opinion on it..it's people that voice their opinion that get things done in life; people who sit on their hands thinking "Fuck it what's the point" rarely achieve anything of note. if you actually voiced your opinion on peole smoking in the bogs and got others to agree with you and back you then something may actually change! if you do fuck all by thinking "Oh it's never going to change" then of course it fucking won't and you sitting back doing nothing about it will be a part of the reason why nothing is done! this entire lazy,apathetic, people who can't be bothered because it's too much like hard work and just let someone else do it all for them stance is exactly the reason nothing ever gets done in this country. it's people that ARE passionate about something and get off their arses and "Moan for the fucking sake of it" that DO get things done. why should their passion be belittled by you simply because you're a "Can't be arsed, what's the point" kind of person? as i said before, just because you don't like smoking but are completely apathetic about taking a stand on it in no way negates these posters views about smoke bombs..you keep banging on about it but are using a complete false logic and therefore an utterly irrelevant argument. your stance is purely "It doesn't bother me so therefore it's an irrelevant thread". simple solution to that mate, don't read it and don't comment on it if you're really so unbothered and uninterested in it. far better to just ignore it rather than trolling on this thread and dismissing others opinions merely because it's not a matter that offends you personally so your saying that things get sorted by people voicing there opinions, this same thread has come up time and time again and smoke bombs are still going off at stoke games so your logic is not very accurate. you're really not very bright are you???? do you think that racial equality occurred the moment people started talking about it? do you think that gender equality occurred as soon as people started "moaning for the sake of it" in a pub somewhere??? nope, but it was precisely those initial discussions that led to it becoming a wider issue over time and then something changes because it becomes a bigger and bigger issue the more people talk about it. it's called giving a subject visibility! your stance of "Why bother because i haven't seen an immediate change" means that people don't bother and consequently the very things YOU want to change (i.e. smoking in the bogs) continue because YOu can't be fucked to do anything about it which basically makes you just as bad! if you want something to change then you get involved, you make your voice heard and if enough people agree with you then it gains ground, snowballs and somewhere down the line tangible changes are made. personally i also hope that your "cause" occurs as well and smoking in the bogs is 100% wiped out but i can GUARANTEE you that it won't if you sit around saying and doing fuck all because as far as you're concerned, if it's not going to be an instant change then fuck it and give up.that kind of attitude is far too prevalent in today's society; sit back,let others do the work, say fuck all and then wonder why nothing changes. thank God that that kind of attitude wasn't as widespread for the last few decades or god knows where we'd still be!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 20, 2015 11:36:41 GMT
see you keep mentioning that as if it's some kind of get out clause... "Some people break other laws so therefore it's fine for every one to do anything they want". i don't think anyone on this thread has said that it's fine for people to smoke have they? it's a bizarre logic really; "Fuck it, people get away with burgling so therefore i'm ok to go and murder someone". it's a completely and utterly, 100% false logic you're using mate. if you really don't like people smoking then fine, do something about it or start a thread on it but if you can't be arsed then fine. the difference is that many on here ARE arsed about smoke bombs so they voice their opinion on it..it's people that voice their opinion that get things done in life; people who sit on their hands thinking "Fuck it what's the point" rarely achieve anything of note. if you actually voiced your opinion on peole smoking in the bogs and got others to agree with you and back you then something may actually change! if you do fuck all by thinking "Oh it's never going to change" then of course it fucking won't and you sitting back doing nothing about it will be a part of the reason why nothing is done! this entire lazy,apathetic, people who can't be bothered because it's too much like hard work and just let someone else do it all for them stance is exactly the reason nothing ever gets done in this country. it's people that ARE passionate about something and get off their arses and "Moan for the fucking sake of it" that DO get things done. why should their passion be belittled by you simply because you're a "Can't be arsed, what's the point" kind of person? as i said before, just because you don't like smoking but are completely apathetic about taking a stand on it in no way negates these posters views about smoke bombs..you keep banging on about it but are using a complete false logic and therefore an utterly irrelevant argument. your stance is purely "It doesn't bother me so therefore it's an irrelevant thread". simple solution to that mate, don't read it and don't comment on it if you're really so unbothered and uninterested in it. far better to just ignore it rather than trolling on this thread and dismissing others opinions merely because it's not a matter that offends you personally so your saying that things get sorted by people voicing there opinions, this same thread has come up time and time again and smoke bombs are still going off at stoke games so your logic is not very accurate. Come on Moaty, if you really are in your 30s you should have the intelligence to work out that some things take longer to change than others. How long did the peak years of football hooliganism go on for, before things changed? How long was homosexuality illegal for, before the law in this country was changed? How long did it take before the notices saying "No Irish and no coloureds" in boarding house windows in the 1950s and 60s became a thing of the past? Things that are worth fighting for often take time to achieve - that doesn't mean the people who fight against them are wasting their time. EDIT I see that MMLC has beaten me to it!
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Post by kustokie on Mar 20, 2015 11:48:45 GMT
This post is futile because it's group of sensible, intelligent individuals trying convince a few indiots that they are morons. I have met a few morons in my time but none that were smart enough to admit it! I am an old Stokie but not yet admitted to a clique.
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 20, 2015 11:53:40 GMT
This post is futile because it's group of sensible, intelligent individuals trying convince a few indiots that they are morons. I have met a few morons in my time but none that were smart enough to admit it! I am an old Stokie but not yet admitted to a clique. Got to say i agree ,flogging a dead (or should that be brain-dead) horse springs to mind ,by the way check your spelling of idiot
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Post by elystokie on Mar 20, 2015 12:10:55 GMT
see you keep mentioning that as if it's some kind of get out clause... "Some people break other laws so therefore it's fine for every one to do anything they want". i don't think anyone on this thread has said that it's fine for people to smoke have they? it's a bizarre logic really; "Fuck it, people get away with burgling so therefore i'm ok to go and murder someone". it's a completely and utterly, 100% false logic you're using mate. if you really don't like people smoking then fine, do something about it or start a thread on it but if you can't be arsed then fine. the difference is that many on here ARE arsed about smoke bombs so they voice their opinion on it..it's people that voice their opinion that get things done in life; people who sit on their hands thinking "Fuck it what's the point" rarely achieve anything of note. if you actually voiced your opinion on peole smoking in the bogs and got others to agree with you and back you then something may actually change! if you do fuck all by thinking "Oh it's never going to change" then of course it fucking won't and you sitting back doing nothing about it will be a part of the reason why nothing is done! this entire lazy,apathetic, people who can't be bothered because it's too much like hard work and just let someone else do it all for them stance is exactly the reason nothing ever gets done in this country. it's people that ARE passionate about something and get off their arses and "Moan for the fucking sake of it" that DO get things done. why should their passion be belittled by you simply because you're a "Can't be arsed, what's the point" kind of person? as i said before, just because you don't like smoking but are completely apathetic about taking a stand on it in no way negates these posters views about smoke bombs..you keep banging on about it but are using a complete false logic and therefore an utterly irrelevant argument. your stance is purely "It doesn't bother me so therefore it's an irrelevant thread". simple solution to that mate, don't read it and don't comment on it if you're really so unbothered and uninterested in it. far better to just ignore it rather than trolling on this thread and dismissing others opinions merely because it's not a matter that offends you personally so your saying that things get sorted by people voicing there opinions, this same thread has come up time and time again and smoke bombs are still going off at stoke games so your logic is not very accurate. This is a fairly lengthy thread with the vast majority condemning the use of smoke bombs, this will hopefully indicate to the morons using them that the majority of supporters disapprove of them strongly, hopefully it will also encourage those in the vicinity of these fucking idiots to video them in the act of their crime. You're the only one on this thread banging on about smoking in the toilets as though it has some relevance (it doesn't btw) - if it bothers you that much start a thread, garner some support and see how it goes from there, to continually use it as some sort of excuse for people letting off smokebombs is nothing short of pathetic. Keep paying attention and you may eventually start to grasp how society actually works ::)
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Post by kustokie on Mar 20, 2015 12:48:04 GMT
This post is futile because it's group of sensible, intelligent individuals trying convince a few indiots that they are morons. I have met a few morons in my time but none that were smart enough to admit it! I am an old Stokie but not yet admitted to a clique. Got to say i agree ,flogging a dead (or should that be brain-dead) horse springs to mind ,by the way check your spelling of idiot BTW: check your punctuation (position of commas)! Touche!
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Post by Eggybread on Mar 20, 2015 12:55:05 GMT
This thread still roilling on.Jesus I hope nothing serious actually ever happens down the Brit ffs.People are so less acceptable of anything off the straight and narrow nowadays.Good job the people moaing dont live anywhere else in the world shhh. 41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m70cskqlTS1r28jbvo1_1280.jpg
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Post by moaty on Mar 20, 2015 13:03:27 GMT
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 20, 2015 13:09:33 GMT
Got to say i agree ,flogging a dead (or should that be brain-dead) horse springs to mind ,by the way check your spelling of idiot BTW: check your punctuation (position of commas)! Touche! Take your point never did get to grips with punctuation,just wing it
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Post by kustokie on Mar 20, 2015 13:10:46 GMT
same with my speling
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Post by elystokie on Mar 20, 2015 13:13:25 GMT
Tazi used to use that tactic. Didn't work for him either.
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 20, 2015 13:15:43 GMT
It was just the word you chose for your mistake that amused me.
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Post by moaty on Mar 20, 2015 13:16:56 GMT
You guys love a good bite don't you? Tazi used to use that tactic. Didn't work for him either. Its funny watching you argue over such a pathetic smoke bomb.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 20, 2015 13:19:02 GMT
Tazi used to use that tactic. Didn't work for him either. Its funny watching you argue over such a pathetic smoke bomb. (rofl) Yep, he used that one as well.
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 20, 2015 13:19:24 GMT
Tazi used to use that tactic. Didn't work for him either. Its funny watching you argue over such a pathetic smoke bomb. I think your location (tomorrow land) indicates your grip on reality.
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Post by sonichuth on Mar 20, 2015 16:46:36 GMT
Saw a load of our pubescant dickheads throw one in the streets around Ewood Park - not noticing a young kid coming up the road who was nearly hit on the head with the thing. Poor lad looked terrified. If you're impressed by smoke go stick your head down a chimney rather than coming the game.
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Post by stokecity1863 on Mar 21, 2015 21:09:20 GMT
Keep moaning all you like this is going nowhere like it or not and i reckon the more the lads see you whining like little bitches on here the more they will do it!
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Mar 21, 2015 21:17:36 GMT
Keep moaning all you like this is going nowhere like it or not and i reckon the more the lads see you whining like little bitches on here the more they will do it! You sound a clever boy
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 22, 2015 7:50:46 GMT
Keep moaning all you like this is going nowhere like it or not and i reckon the more the lads see you whining like little bitches on here the more they will do it! You sound a clever boy No brain = no conscience and i do think the only cure is footage of their activities being made available to the relevant bodies,if enough people state this as their intention then the thought of a banning order on their "supporting" Stoke just might enough.
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Post by draytondave on Mar 25, 2015 7:40:06 GMT
You sound a clever boy No brain = no conscience and i do think the only cure is footage of their activities being made available to the relevant bodies,if enough people state this as their intention then the thought of a banning order on their "supporting" Stoke just might enough. Not arsed about smoke bombs but this grassing mentality is fuckin wank in my opinion. Getting boisterous young lads banned from supporting our club is very low. I prefer the getting a few lads to have a word approach myself but in this day and age grassing and sitting safe behind a keyboard seems the way to go. Very sad.
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 25, 2015 17:27:04 GMT
No brain = no conscience and i do think the only cure is footage of their activities being made available to the relevant bodies,if enough people state this as their intention then the thought of a banning order on their "supporting" Stoke just might enough. Not arsed about smoke bombs but this grassing mentality is fuckin wank in my opinion. Getting boisterous young lads banned from supporting our club is very low. I prefer the getting a few lads to have a word approach myself but in this day and age grassing and sitting safe behind a keyboard seems the way to go. Very sad. If you read what i said it was let it be known that we intend to video the group letting of bombs/flares was the intention if this activity continued, if after being given this information they continue even though the majority of people seem to be anti i personally think they deserve all they get .
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Post by bobthethrob on Mar 25, 2015 17:32:21 GMT
just 1 question if you can answer it.... it's one that has been asked on several occasions so far in this thread alone and one which you have conspicuously completely avoided to comment upon let alone answer.... In what way does letting off a smoke bomb improve the atmosphere at a game? genuinely, i'm interested to see your answer here as no-one has ever bothered to actually justify it, it just seems a lazy throwaway comment people use to try to justify letting off smoke bombs. what does it actually do to improve the atmosphere or what tangible way do you have to illustrate that it does so? I have already answered this a few pages ago. We shall have to agree to disagree, but i guess thats because your probably about 50 and I'm in my 30's. Stuck in your ways and all that Mate' how about this then. you are "stuck in your ways" if u disagree with MIROR CACKING IT IS A CRAZE THAT has broken out on our place recently basically you cack then pick up the cack with bog roll and writ your name on a mirror eg "bob" (underlined) like writing with a crayon then other her people have to guess who did it COME on mate it's a right laugh, how about we do it in you house
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 25, 2015 17:53:18 GMT
Be a good lad then and scurry on back down the hole you came out of at that "place". Your teachers/wardens deserve every penny they earn.
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Post by bobthethrob on Mar 25, 2015 19:59:37 GMT
Cheers up duck I'm on your side
Smoke boms at match is BAD
MIRROR CACK if not played in "controlled situation". Is bad
Ie PRISIN, oil rig, factory
We don't play it when "civilians" are near (eg women and children)
In fact I'm against all cacking if not in toilet
APART from sink if your really desperate and both cubicles busy
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 25, 2015 20:22:18 GMT
International break is the only reason I can come up with that this thread is still going. We have nothing else to talk about it, so we're actually debating whether or not it's ok to let off a smoke bomb in a crowded public place. Jesus wept.
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Post by bobthethrob on Mar 25, 2015 20:44:26 GMT
97% on here agree lettin off stinck or smok bombs or cacking in public is a bad thing
About 3 people disagree but they post the most
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 26, 2015 4:58:19 GMT
International break is the only reason I can come up with that this thread is still going. We have nothing else to talk about it, so we're actually debating whether or not it's ok to let off a smoke bomb in a crowded public place. Jesus wept. Think you might find it is the fact that most people think that setting off bombs/flares is a anti-social act that can quite easily have dire effects on old or infirm people,now that would make Jesus weep.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 26, 2015 13:07:36 GMT
International break is the only reason I can come up with that this thread is still going. We have nothing else to talk about it, so we're actually debating whether or not it's ok to let off a smoke bomb in a crowded public place. Jesus wept. Think you might find it is the fact that most people think that setting off bombs/flares is a anti-social act that can quite easily have dire effects on old or infirm people,now that would make Jesus weep. Kind of my point, there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 13:09:14 GMT
Think you might find it is the fact that most people think that setting off bombs/flares is a anti-social act that can quite easily have dire effects on old or infirm people,now that would make Jesus weep. Kind of my point, there. yeah was going to post that to him myself actually to stop it escalating you're both in agreement here
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Post by kustokie on Mar 26, 2015 13:54:30 GMT
Like Hartzy I can't believe this thread has reappeared. However, there is one potential solution to this anti-social behavior. Anyone caught setting off a smoke bomb should have said smoke bomb shoved up their arse and paraded round the pitch. That should put a stop to it real quick.
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