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Post by elystokie on Mar 19, 2015 11:52:39 GMT
I'm interested in how smoke bombs actually improve the atmosphere? I've been at games with cracking atmospheres home and away over the years, not once did I think 'the only thing missing here is a smoke bomb or a flare' Oh come on :D You must have, or even if not I bet you thought to yourself, 'yep, you know what, actually that has lent a certain frisson to the afternoon' :)) :D Can't say I have, I'm evidently lacking something mentally...
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Post by moaty on Mar 19, 2015 12:10:21 GMT
What you seem to be unable to grasp is the fact I'm not condoning anything, neither am i saying smoke bombs are legal. You said it pollutes the air - i was just stating a fact about cars being driven pollutes the air. Smoke bombs wont stop all at football games - likewise to smoking in toilets. So if it bothers you that much go and watch the vale. Why should i after 50+ years of support be forced to stop attending by a very small minority doing something illegal,smoking in the toilets at half time i can cope with, i don`t go to the toilets.smoke bomb flares can be set off anywhere at any time by the mindless minority,that is my problem but i fear that argument is beyond your comprehension. Why should i have to breathe in other peoples smoke just because i want a piss?
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 19, 2015 12:15:31 GMT
Why should i after 50+ years of support be forced to stop attending by a very small minority doing something illegal,smoking in the toilets at half time i can cope with, i don`t go to the toilets.smoke bomb flares can be set off anywhere at any time by the mindless minority,that is my problem but i fear that argument is beyond your comprehension. Why should i have to breathe in other peoples smoke just because i want a piss? You are beyond belief,what a juvenile argument.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 19, 2015 12:21:12 GMT
Why should i have to breathe in other peoples smoke just because i want a piss? You are beyond belief,what a juvenile argument. It does have shades of 'He started it Sir'...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 12:44:57 GMT
Why should i after 50+ years of support be forced to stop attending by a very small minority doing something illegal,smoking in the toilets at half time i can cope with, i don`t go to the toilets.smoke bomb flares can be set off anywhere at any time by the mindless minority,that is my problem but i fear that argument is beyond your comprehension. Why should i have to breathe in other peoples smoke just because i want a piss? just 1 question if you can answer it.... it's one that has been asked on several occasions so far in this thread alone and one which you have conspicuously completely avoided to comment upon let alone answer.... In what way does letting off a smoke bomb improve the atmosphere at a game? genuinely, i'm interested to see your answer here as no-one has ever bothered to actually justify it, it just seems a lazy throwaway comment people use to try to justify letting off smoke bombs. what does it actually do to improve the atmosphere or what tangible way do you have to illustrate that it does so?
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Post by ukcstokie on Mar 19, 2015 14:09:05 GMT
Why should i have to breathe in other peoples smoke just because i want a piss? just 1 question if you can answer it.... it's one that has been asked on several occasions so far in this thread alone and one which you have conspicuously completely avoided to comment upon let alone answer.... In what way does letting off a smoke bomb improve the atmosphere at a game? genuinely, i'm interested to see your answer here as no-one has ever bothered to actually justify it, it just seems a lazy throwaway comment people use to try to justify letting off smoke bombs. what does it actually do to improve the atmosphere or what tangible way do you have to illustrate that it does so? Mick, they look ace when they have them abroad - and they always have a great atmosphere at every match abroad. Keep up.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 14:19:49 GMT
just 1 question if you can answer it.... it's one that has been asked on several occasions so far in this thread alone and one which you have conspicuously completely avoided to comment upon let alone answer.... In what way does letting off a smoke bomb improve the atmosphere at a game? genuinely, i'm interested to see your answer here as no-one has ever bothered to actually justify it, it just seems a lazy throwaway comment people use to try to justify letting off smoke bombs. what does it actually do to improve the atmosphere or what tangible way do you have to illustrate that it does so? Mick, they look ace when they have them abroad - and they always have a great atmosphere at every match abroad. Keep up. fair point...fuck it, let's get some "Ultras" at the games then as well. love all that european atmosphere
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Post by ukcstokie on Mar 19, 2015 14:30:12 GMT
Mick, they look ace when they have them abroad - and they always have a great atmosphere at every match abroad. Keep up. fair point...fuck it, let's get some "Ultras" at the games then as well. love all that european atmosphere Yes, and a running track around the pitch always helps atmosphere doesn't it?
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Post by NottsMatt on Mar 19, 2015 19:05:33 GMT
I love it how if you don't agree with what seems to be the little click on this site you are classed as 'brainless'. Some of you really are boring old men that must have nothing better to do than moan your wig off on here.
I hope the lads keep setting off these smoke bombs and throwing beer about singing songs etc, nothing more I like to see then people enjoying them selves. Wouldnt you rather this than fighting like the old days? Lads have it hard these days and when your own supporters get on your back it makes it that bit worse doesn't it? Get a grip gentlemen and leave them too it, its not going to kill you.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 19, 2015 19:12:38 GMT
I love it how if you don't agree with what seems to be the little click on this site you are classed as 'brainless'. Some of you really are boring old men that must have nothing better to do than moan your wig off on here. I hope the lads keep setting off these smoke bombs and throwing beer about singing songs etc, nothing more I like to see then people enjoying them selves. Wouldnt you rather this than fighting like the old days? Lads have it hard these days and when your own supporters get on your back it makes it that bit worse doesn't it? Get a grip gentlemen and leave them too it, its not going to kill you. I love how you put singing songs in the same class as letting smoke bombs off and chucking beer over folk, like they're remotely connected in the slightest.
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Post by leicspotter on Mar 19, 2015 19:12:49 GMT
I love it how if you don't agree with what seems to be the little click on this site you are classed as 'brainless'. Some of you really are boring old men that must have nothing better to do than moan your wig off on here. I hope the lads keep setting off these smoke bombs and throwing beer about singing songs etc, nothing more I like to see then people enjoying them selves. Wouldnt you rather this than fighting like the old days? Lads have it hard these days and when your own supporters get on your back it makes it that bit worse doesn't it? Get a grip gentlemen and leave them too it, its not going to kill you. Are you for real!? Lads having "fun" caused the death of one of our most loyal and long standing supporters down at Southampton! Flares are dangerous and disgusting and have no place in our game, further more, you quote "the atmosphere in European games", here at least the perpetrators have the guts to HOLD their flares, not throw them indiscriminently around!! I hope that you are a wind-up merchant, if you are serious then you have a serious mental disorder
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Post by werrington on Mar 19, 2015 19:13:23 GMT
I love it how if you don't agree with what seems to be the little click on this site you are classed as 'brainless'. Some of you really are boring old men that must have nothing better to do than moan your wig off on here. I hope the lads keep setting off these smoke bombs and throwing beer about singing songs etc, nothing more I like to see then people enjoying them selves. Wouldnt you rather this than fighting like the old days? Lads have it hard these days and when your own supporters get on your back it makes it that bit worse doesn't it? Get a grip gentlemen and leave them too it, its not going to kill you. Just as long as it's not your elderly parents or wife and young children ( all out enjoying meals ) getting covered h in lager though eh I think you'd see things differently then
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Post by moaty on Mar 19, 2015 19:13:36 GMT
Why should i have to breathe in other peoples smoke just because i want a piss? just 1 question if you can answer it.... it's one that has been asked on several occasions so far in this thread alone and one which you have conspicuously completely avoided to comment upon let alone answer.... In what way does letting off a smoke bomb improve the atmosphere at a game? genuinely, i'm interested to see your answer here as no-one has ever bothered to actually justify it, it just seems a lazy throwaway comment people use to try to justify letting off smoke bombs. what does it actually do to improve the atmosphere or what tangible way do you have to illustrate that it does so? I have already answered this a few pages ago. We shall have to agree to disagree, but i guess thats because your probably about 50 and I'm in my 30's. Stuck in your ways and all that
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Post by bmstoke on Mar 19, 2015 19:16:46 GMT
just 1 question if you can answer it.... it's one that has been asked on several occasions so far in this thread alone and one which you have conspicuously completely avoided to comment upon let alone answer.... In what way does letting off a smoke bomb improve the atmosphere at a game? genuinely, i'm interested to see your answer here as no-one has ever bothered to actually justify it, it just seems a lazy throwaway comment people use to try to justify letting off smoke bombs. what does it actually do to improve the atmosphere or what tangible way do you have to illustrate that it does so? I have already answered this a few pages ago. We shall have to agree to disagree, but i guess thats because your probably about 50 and I'm in my 30's. Stuck in your ways and all that I'm shocked. I guessed about 14.
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Post by moaty on Mar 19, 2015 19:17:49 GMT
I love it how if you don't agree with what seems to be the little click on this site you are classed as 'brainless'. Some of you really are boring old men that must have nothing better to do than moan your wig off on here. I hope the lads keep setting off these smoke bombs and throwing beer about singing songs etc, nothing more I like to see then people enjoying them selves. Wouldnt you rather this than fighting like the old days? Lads have it hard these days and when your own supporters get on your back it makes it that bit worse doesn't it? Get a grip gentlemen and leave them too it, its not going to kill you. Are you for real!? Lads having "fun" caused the death of one of our most loyal and long standing supporters down at Southampton! Flares are dangerous and disgusting and have no place in our game, further more, you quote "the atmosphere in European games", here at least the perpetrators have the guts to HOLD their flares, not throw them indiscriminently around!! I hope that you are a wind-up merchant, if you are serious then you have a serious mental disorder The reason people don't hold them is because the police throw them out over here.. not abroad...
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Post by moaty on Mar 19, 2015 19:18:18 GMT
I have already answered this a few pages ago. We shall have to agree to disagree, but i guess thats because your probably about 50 and I'm in my 30's. Stuck in your ways and all that I'm shocked. I guessed about 14. Close
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 19, 2015 19:18:37 GMT
just 1 question if you can answer it.... it's one that has been asked on several occasions so far in this thread alone and one which you have conspicuously completely avoided to comment upon let alone answer.... In what way does letting off a smoke bomb improve the atmosphere at a game? genuinely, i'm interested to see your answer here as no-one has ever bothered to actually justify it, it just seems a lazy throwaway comment people use to try to justify letting off smoke bombs. what does it actually do to improve the atmosphere or what tangible way do you have to illustrate that it does so? I have already answered this a few pages ago. We shall have to agree to disagree, but i guess thats because your probably about 50 and I'm in my 30's. Stuck in your ways and all that Or as most people might say 'grown up'.
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Post by leicspotter on Mar 19, 2015 19:23:36 GMT
Are you for real!? Lads having "fun" caused the death of one of our most loyal and long standing supporters down at Southampton! Flares are dangerous and disgusting and have no place in our game, further more, you quote "the atmosphere in European games", here at least the perpetrators have the guts to HOLD their flares, not throw them indiscriminently around!! I hope that you are a wind-up merchant, if you are serious then you have a serious mental disorder The reason people don't hold them is because the police throw them out over here.. not abroad... Ever wondered why? No, I don't suppose you have
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Post by moaty on Mar 19, 2015 19:25:01 GMT
The reason people don't hold them is because the police throw them out over here.. not abroad... Ever wondered why? No, I don't suppose you have if caught smoking in the toilets you can get thrown out... ever wondered why?
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Post by leicspotter on Mar 19, 2015 19:27:16 GMT
Ever wondered why? No, I don't suppose you have if caught smoking in the toilets you can get thrown out... ever wondered why? No, it's the right thing to do...both acts are illegal and should be stopped...why do you support one illegal act whilst condoning another, both of which are potentially harmful to your fellow supporters?
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Post by moaty on Mar 19, 2015 19:29:04 GMT
if caught smoking in the toilets you can get thrown out... ever wondered why? No, it's the right thing to do...both acts are illegal and should be stopped...why do you support one illegal act whilst condoning another, both of which are potentially harmful to your fellow supporters? I am not condoning... just stating a fact but people don't moan about that every week.
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Post by leicspotter on Mar 19, 2015 19:31:23 GMT
I do...all the bloody time...not that anything gets done about it. I thought when they opened the gates at half-time it would put a stop to it (to be fair it is MUCH better now, at the Brit at least) Maybe that's the answer...open the gates and let the 'lads'throw their flares and beer around in the car park!
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Mar 19, 2015 20:32:33 GMT
I love it how if you don't agree with what seems to be the little click on this site you are classed as 'brainless'. Some of you really are boring old men that must have nothing better to do than moan your wig off on here. I hope the lads keep setting off these smoke bombs and throwing beer about singing songs etc, nothing more I like to see then people enjoying them selves. Wouldnt you rather this than fighting like the old days? Lads have it hard these days and when your own supporters get on your back it makes it that bit worse doesn't it? Get a grip gentlemen and leave them too it, its not going to kill you. We really do have some morons follow our club
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 19, 2015 21:33:34 GMT
They'll be chucking bread around next...
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Post by ukcstokie on Mar 19, 2015 21:49:16 GMT
I love it how if you don't agree with what seems to be the little click on this site you are classed as 'brainless'. Some of you really are boring old men that must have nothing better to do than moan your wig off on here. I hope the lads keep setting off these smoke bombs and throwing beer about singing songs etc, nothing more I like to see then people enjoying them selves. Wouldnt you rather this than fighting like the old days? Lads have it hard these days and when your own supporters get on your back it makes it that bit worse doesn't it? Get a grip gentlemen and leave them too it, its not going to kill you. We really do have some morons follow our club You're being generous to him.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 9:10:42 GMT
just 1 question if you can answer it.... it's one that has been asked on several occasions so far in this thread alone and one which you have conspicuously completely avoided to comment upon let alone answer.... In what way does letting off a smoke bomb improve the atmosphere at a game? genuinely, i'm interested to see your answer here as no-one has ever bothered to actually justify it, it just seems a lazy throwaway comment people use to try to justify letting off smoke bombs. what does it actually do to improve the atmosphere or what tangible way do you have to illustrate that it does so? I have already answered this a few pages ago. We shall have to agree to disagree, but i guess thats because your probably about 50 and I'm in my 30's. Stuck in your ways and all that i'm 38 mate you don't have to be in your 50's to have a little thing called "Consideration for others"
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Post by skemstokie on Mar 20, 2015 9:11:27 GMT
I love it how if you don't agree with what seems to be the little click on this site you are classed as 'brainless'. Some of you really are boring old men that must have nothing better to do than moan your wig off on here. I hope the lads keep setting off these smoke bombs and throwing beer about singing songs etc, nothing more I like to see then people enjoying them selves. Wouldnt you rather this than fighting like the old days? Lads have it hard these days and when your own supporters get on your back it makes it that bit worse doesn't it? Get a grip gentlemen and leave them too it, its not going to kill you. Are you for real!? Lads having "fun" caused the death of one of our most loyal and long standing supporters down at Southampton! Flares are dangerous and disgusting and have no place in our game, further more, you quote "the atmosphere in European games", here at least the perpetrators have the guts to HOLD their flares, not throw them indiscriminently around!! I hope that you are a wind-up merchant, if you are serious then you have a serious mental disorder I came to the wind-up theory a while back ,thought i would see if he could come up with a structured response to test him out,still waiting. Your point about Mabel is proof of the possibility of disaster to any-one with a modicum of common-sense or consideration for other`s well being which this small minority seem to lack.Perhaps phone video clips of the people involved being "donated" to the relevant authorities is the way forward as reasoning is having no effect.
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Post by moaty on Mar 20, 2015 9:41:34 GMT
I have already answered this a few pages ago. We shall have to agree to disagree, but i guess thats because your probably about 50 and I'm in my 30's. Stuck in your ways and all that i'm 38 mate you don't have to be in your 50's to have a little thing called "Consideration for others" Tell that to the smokers
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 9:59:51 GMT
i'm 38 mate you don't have to be in your 50's to have a little thing called "Consideration for others" Tell that to the smokers see you keep mentioning that as if it's some kind of get out clause... "Some people break other laws so therefore it's fine for every one to do anything they want". i don't think anyone on this thread has said that it's fine for people to smoke have they? it's a bizarre logic really; "Fuck it, people get away with burgling so therefore i'm ok to go and murder someone". it's a completely and utterly, 100% false logic you're using mate. if you really don't like people smoking then fine, do something about it or start a thread on it but if you can't be arsed then fine. the difference is that many on here ARE arsed about smoke bombs so they voice their opinion on it..it's people that voice their opinion that get things done in life; people who sit on their hands thinking "Fuck it what's the point" rarely achieve anything of note. if you actually voiced your opinion on peole smoking in the bogs and got others to agree with you and back you then something may actually change! if you do fuck all by thinking "Oh it's never going to change" then of course it fucking won't and you sitting back doing nothing about it will be a part of the reason why nothing is done! this entire lazy,apathetic, people who can't be bothered because it's too much like hard work and just let someone else do it all for them stance is exactly the reason nothing ever gets done in this country. it's people that ARE passionate about something and get off their arses and "Moan for the fucking sake of it" that DO get things done. why should their passion be belittled by you simply because you're a "Can't be arsed, what's the point" kind of person? as i said before, just because you don't like smoking but are completely apathetic about taking a stand on it in no way negates these posters views about smoke bombs..you keep banging on about it but are using a complete false logic and therefore an utterly irrelevant argument. your stance is purely "It doesn't bother me so therefore it's an irrelevant thread". simple solution to that mate, don't read it and don't comment on it if you're really so unbothered and uninterested in it. far better to just ignore it rather than trolling on this thread and dismissing others opinions merely because it's not a matter that offends you personally
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Post by moaty on Mar 20, 2015 11:21:35 GMT
see you keep mentioning that as if it's some kind of get out clause... "Some people break other laws so therefore it's fine for every one to do anything they want". i don't think anyone on this thread has said that it's fine for people to smoke have they? it's a bizarre logic really; "Fuck it, people get away with burgling so therefore i'm ok to go and murder someone". it's a completely and utterly, 100% false logic you're using mate. if you really don't like people smoking then fine, do something about it or start a thread on it but if you can't be arsed then fine. the difference is that many on here ARE arsed about smoke bombs so they voice their opinion on it..it's people that voice their opinion that get things done in life; people who sit on their hands thinking "Fuck it what's the point" rarely achieve anything of note. if you actually voiced your opinion on peole smoking in the bogs and got others to agree with you and back you then something may actually change! if you do fuck all by thinking "Oh it's never going to change" then of course it fucking won't and you sitting back doing nothing about it will be a part of the reason why nothing is done! this entire lazy,apathetic, people who can't be bothered because it's too much like hard work and just let someone else do it all for them stance is exactly the reason nothing ever gets done in this country. it's people that ARE passionate about something and get off their arses and "Moan for the fucking sake of it" that DO get things done. why should their passion be belittled by you simply because you're a "Can't be arsed, what's the point" kind of person? as i said before, just because you don't like smoking but are completely apathetic about taking a stand on it in no way negates these posters views about smoke bombs..you keep banging on about it but are using a complete false logic and therefore an utterly irrelevant argument. your stance is purely "It doesn't bother me so therefore it's an irrelevant thread". simple solution to that mate, don't read it and don't comment on it if you're really so unbothered and uninterested in it. far better to just ignore it rather than trolling on this thread and dismissing others opinions merely because it's not a matter that offends you personally so your saying that things get sorted by people voicing there opinions, this same thread has come up time and time again and smoke bombs are still going off at stoke games so your logic is not very accurate.
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