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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Mar 25, 2015 7:37:47 GMT
Wollschied is a better "footballer" and that's why Hughes brought him in. But Shawcross/Muniesa would be my CB pairing anyway. he may well be, but he also has a turning circle like the ark royal, and my 76 yr old mother could strip him for pace....i think either of them are destined to be back up should they be here nxt season, i like you think its muni /shawcross as 1st choice Wollscheid is as slow if not slower than Huthy. Wollscheid is decent with the play in front of him, I would not be that arsed if he wasnt signed and we kept Huth. Hughes obviously has different plans?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 25, 2015 7:47:14 GMT
If he's proved his fitness he has to come back in for me next season.
He's better than any other option we have assuming he's fit.
Him and Ryan are our best partnership by some distance.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 12:05:59 GMT
If he's proved his fitness he has to come back in for me next season. He's better than any other option we have assuming he's fit. Him and Ryan are our best partnership by some distance. Disagree. Ryan and Muni is the best partnership we currently have. People need to leave the past behind.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 25, 2015 12:12:10 GMT
If he's proved his fitness he has to come back in for me next season. He's better than any other option we have assuming he's fit. Him and Ryan are our best partnership by some distance. Disagree. Ryan and Muni is the best partnership we currently have. People need to leave the past behind. Why is it the past? It was only a sock change ago him and the skipper were the best pairing in the league. He was absolutely fine before his injury and as good a player as Muni is, Huth is an infinitely better defender. We concede some of the softest, shittiest goals you can imagine and I defy anyone to tell me that we wouldn't concede less daft goals with Ryan and Rob at the heart of our defence (assuming Rob is fully fit of course).
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Post by nott1 on Mar 25, 2015 12:14:00 GMT
If he's proved his fitness he has to come back in for me next season. He's better than any other option we have assuming he's fit. Him and Ryan are our best partnership by some distance. Disagree. Ryan and Muni is the best partnership we currently have. People need to leave the past behind. I still think Huth should be there if Muni isn't. He's better than all the others after Ryan and Muni! He is also a better DEFENDER/STOPPER than any of them.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 25, 2015 12:37:51 GMT
Muni has fitness issues, so does Ryan. Madness to have Wilson at CH when we could have Huth!
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Post by lastoftheldk on Mar 25, 2015 12:44:47 GMT
I'd have Wilson and Huth (if fit), as the first choice
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Mar 25, 2015 12:51:02 GMT
I'd have Wilson and Huth (if fit), as the first choice Roy, is that you?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 25, 2015 12:52:55 GMT
I'd have Wilson and Huth (if fit), as the first choice If it's up there I'll give you the money myself.
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Post by cousindupree on Mar 25, 2015 13:01:30 GMT
If Huth is fit and back to his best we should certainly keep him. Defensively better than Wilson Muni Wooly and Cameron. more likely to score from a set piece than just about any of our defenders. He gets criticised for not bringing the ball out a la Franz Beckenbaeur. But do we need ball playing CBs who are dodgy defenders? With Bojan back next season plus 2 tricky wingers together with a solid Whelan and Nzonz, why can't he just play the simple pass to any one of 4/5 creative players? We struggle to keep clean sheets and are no longer a threat at set pieces its no coincidence that these parts of our game have deteriorated since the big german youth has been absent.
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Post by djduncanjames on Mar 25, 2015 13:09:25 GMT
If Huth is fit and back to his best we should certainly keep him. Defensively better than Wilson Muni Wooly and Cameron. more likely to score from a set piece than just about any of our defenders. He gets criticised for not bringing the ball out a la Franz Beckenbaeur. But do we need ball playing CBs who are dodgy defenders? With Bojan back next season plus 2 tricky wingers together with a solid Whelan and Nzonz, why can't he just play the simple pass to any one of 4/5 creative players? We struggle to keep clean sheets and are no longer a threat at set pieces its no coincidence that these parts of our game have deteriorated since the big german youth has been absent. Bowen are you reading this??
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Mar 25, 2015 13:18:10 GMT
If Huth is fit and back to his best we should certainly keep him. Defensively better than Wilson Muni Wooly and Cameron. more likely to score from a set piece than just about any of our defenders. He gets criticised for not bringing the ball out a la Franz Beckenbaeur. But do we need ball playing CBs who are dodgy defenders? With Bojan back next season plus 2 tricky wingers together with a solid Whelan and Nzonz, why can't he just play the simple pass to any one of 4/5 creative players? We struggle to keep clean sheets and are no longer a threat at set pieces its no coincidence that these parts of our game have deteriorated since the big german youth has been absent. I've always believed this. Why does a team with several creative players need a dodgy CH who can pass a ball? Hughes and Bowen haven't got their back four priorities right?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 13:45:56 GMT
If Huth is fit and back to his best we should certainly keep him. Defensively better than Wilson Muni Wooly and Cameron. more likely to score from a set piece than just about any of our defenders. He gets criticised for not bringing the ball out a la Franz Beckenbaeur. But do we need ball playing CBs who are dodgy defenders? With Bojan back next season plus 2 tricky wingers together with a solid Whelan and Nzonz, why can't he just play the simple pass to any one of 4/5 creative players? We struggle to keep clean sheets and are no longer a threat at set pieces its no coincidence that these parts of our game have deteriorated since the big german youth has been absent. Bang on the money. Nothing else needs saying.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 19:16:08 GMT
Disagree. Ryan and Muni is the best partnership we currently have. People need to leave the past behind. Why is it the past? It was only a sock change ago him and the skipper were the best pairing in the league. He was absolutely fine before his injury and as good a player as Muni is, Huth is an infinitely better defender. We concede some of the softest, shittiest goals you can imagine and I defy anyone to tell me that we wouldn't concede less daft goals with Ryan and Rob at the heart of our defence (assuming Rob is fully fit of course). Do you change your socks once every 18 months? You're relying on him being the same player that was was 2-3 years ago, let alone 18 months back when he was flagging from injury and conceding needless fouls and bookings.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 19:17:53 GMT
If Huth is fit and back to his best we should certainly keep him. Defensively better than Wilson Muni Wooly and Cameron. more likely to score from a set piece than just about any of our defenders. He gets criticised for not bringing the ball out a la Franz Beckenbaeur. But do we need ball playing CBs who are dodgy defenders? With Bojan back next season plus 2 tricky wingers together with a solid Whelan and Nzonz, why can't he just play the simple pass to any one of 4/5 creative players? We struggle to keep clean sheets and are no longer a threat at set pieces its no coincidence that these parts of our game have deteriorated since the big german youth has been absent. Muniesa is a solid ball playing defender and centre half. You just seem incapable of accepting that some players can defend and use the ball effectively. As for scoring from a set piece, Huth has one goal since April 2012 - hardly prolific. You can look at the dip in form of the keeper, the constant back 4 reshuffles due to injury and the questionable full backs for goals being conceded too. Huth isn't our saviour, not even close.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 25, 2015 19:18:44 GMT
Why is it the past? It was only a sock change ago him and the skipper were the best pairing in the league. He was absolutely fine before his injury and as good a player as Muni is, Huth is an infinitely better defender. We concede some of the softest, shittiest goals you can imagine and I defy anyone to tell me that we wouldn't concede less daft goals with Ryan and Rob at the heart of our defence (assuming Rob is fully fit of course). Do you change your socks once every 18 months? You're relying on him being the same player that was was 2-3 years ago, let alone 18 months back when he was flagging from injury and conceding needless fouls and bookings. Huth won't play for this football club again.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 25, 2015 19:33:59 GMT
Why is it the past? It was only a sock change ago him and the skipper were the best pairing in the league. He was absolutely fine before his injury and as good a player as Muni is, Huth is an infinitely better defender. We concede some of the softest, shittiest goals you can imagine and I defy anyone to tell me that we wouldn't concede less daft goals with Ryan and Rob at the heart of our defence (assuming Rob is fully fit of course). Do you change your socks once every 18 months? You're relying on him being the same player that was was 2-3 years ago, let alone 18 months back when he was flagging from injury and conceding needless fouls and bookings. Huth was fine before he got injured and is apparently playing very well at Leicester. If he's found fitness and form he's the number two defender at the club. It's one of the few things me and Hughes seem to disagree with.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 25, 2015 19:36:37 GMT
Do you change your socks once every 18 months? You're relying on him being the same player that was was 2-3 years ago, let alone 18 months back when he was flagging from injury and conceding needless fouls and bookings. Huth won't play for this football club again. I'll bet you a florin. Whatever the hell that is.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Mar 25, 2015 19:40:15 GMT
Huth won't play for this football club again. I'll bet you a florin. Whatever the hell that is. Two Bob bit he won't.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 25, 2015 19:46:05 GMT
I'll bet you a florin. Whatever the hell that is. Two Bob bit he won't. Which equals a florin, correct? I'm gonna figure this shit out someday.
You're on.
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Post by basingstokie on Mar 25, 2015 19:46:56 GMT
When all 3 are fit I find it very difficult to choose my preferred partnership from Ryan, Huth and Muniesa.
In my opinion, Cameron, Wilson and Wolly will be back ups to these 3. Which means realistically with 1 of the first 3 on the bench they aren't likely to play a lot of football at centre back.
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Post by lordb on Mar 25, 2015 19:48:37 GMT
I'll see your florin and raise you a £2.50 postal order.
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Post by kustokie on Mar 25, 2015 21:18:23 GMT
Which equals a florin, correct? I'm gonna figure this shit out someday.
You're on.
I'll raise you half a crown!
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 25, 2015 21:19:41 GMT
Whatever poeple think about the situation its clear he's not in Hughes's plans, time to let go.
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Post by kustokie on Mar 25, 2015 21:20:55 GMT
Hartzy: Here's a clue - a crown is/was five bob. Once you've figured out the money, you can more to the advanced class CRICKET.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Mar 25, 2015 21:24:54 GMT
Muniesa and Shawcross for me. I love Huth, but he has looked so uncomfortable in the (albeit few) times he's played in this new system.
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Post by hartzchoco on Mar 25, 2015 21:29:25 GMT
Hartzy: Here's a clue - a crown is/was five bob. Once you've figured out the money, you can more to the advanced class CRICKET. Oh hell no. Cricket is fucking impossible, brother. I don't even think anyone gets it, its just like a long running practical joke on Americans.
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Post by kustokie on Mar 25, 2015 21:30:32 GMT
Muniesa and Shawcross for me. I love Huth, but he has looked so uncomfortable in the (albeit few) times he's played in this new system. agree. Shawcross and Muniesa represent the future.
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Post by stokieben on Mar 26, 2015 10:55:38 GMT
All about his fitness. If he is fit,straight in the side. Muniesa at left back. Micah Richards at right back. Looks good to me. 4 center halves? Hughes out!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 12:02:05 GMT
If he's fit he plays it's as simple as that. He's a great defender and is a threat in the opposing penalty area. We are conceding far too many sloppy goals and Huthy will help rectify this. I don't want to hear bollocks about better footballers either, he's there to defend. by "is a threat in the penalty area" do you mean "was a threat in the penalty area about 3 years ago and since then neither him or Ryan have really been any kind of threat at set pieces"? i'd love Huth to stay and would rather have him than Wollscheid playing but saying he's a threat in the penalty area is like saying we still constantly rely on the long throw routine
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