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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 2, 2015 13:55:45 GMT
Is it true, time added on came about after a Stoke game, where the ball was kicked out of the ground when Stoke got a last minute penalty, by the time the ball was recovered the 90 minutes was up?
Also after a Stoke game the powers that be decided to have nets installed because of goals been awarded when actually the ball had gone wide on more than one occasion?
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Post by metalhead on Mar 2, 2015 13:57:25 GMT
I believe so. Also, the rules have been changed since. Holding in the box became a penalty when Ryan Shawcross did it. Victor Moses invented diving. Rory Delap the long throw. As far as teams go, we're pretty damned progressive
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 2, 2015 14:01:14 GMT
I think we're responsible for most of the original laws about penalties.
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Post by slpmarc on Mar 2, 2015 14:01:49 GMT
I am sure penalty shoot out are after a Stoke game too
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Post by capto on Mar 2, 2015 14:23:43 GMT
Is it true, time added on came about after a Stoke game, where the ball was kicked out of the ground when Stoke got a last minute penalty, by the time the ball was recovered the 90 minutes was up? Also after a Stoke game the powers that be decided to have nets installed because of goals been awarded when actually the ball had gone wide on more than one occasion? yeah, I'm sure I've read that Stoke were involved & a free kick, in those days, was given & was in the area & so, as the opposition couldn't back off 10 yards they just formed a wall on the line & there was no way thru - so a penalty was introduced; but when Stoke were awarded one the keeper kicked the ball out of the stadium & by the time it was returned, time was up - so extra time allowed for pens; need to check, but I think was against the same team, Villa on both occasions!
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Post by Northy on Mar 2, 2015 14:25:50 GMT
Is it true, time added on came about after a Stoke game, where the ball was kicked out of the ground when Stoke got a last minute penalty, by the time the ball was recovered the 90 minutes was up? Also after a Stoke game the powers that be decided to have nets installed because of goals been awarded when actually the ball had gone wide on more than one occasion? yeah, I'm sure I've read that Stoke were involved & a free kick, in those days, was given & was in the area & so, as the opposition couldn't back off 10 yards they just formed a wall on the line & there was no way thru - so a penalty was introduced; but when Stoke were awarded one the keeper kicked the ball out of the stadium & by the time it was returned, time was up - so extra time allowed for pens; need to check, but I think was against the same team, Villa on both occasions! I think you are right, and for that, Villa must be relegated
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 2, 2015 14:48:26 GMT
We now have the rule that if you make a poor tackle early on in the game you deserve 13 stitches.
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Post by KevinWhimper on Mar 2, 2015 14:58:16 GMT
Wasn't the towel banned after Rory? Then Shotton had one stitched into his top.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 2, 2015 15:08:00 GMT
Haven't we always had rule changes during games involving Stoke?
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Post by phileetin on Mar 2, 2015 15:36:27 GMT
is that why you don't get program sellers on during the match as well
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 2, 2015 15:45:06 GMT
Wasn't the towel banned after Rory? Then Shotton had one stitched into his top. Don't think it was banned, teams just stopped supplying them.
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Post by podolipotter on Mar 2, 2015 16:01:43 GMT
I seem to recall that Stoke City FC were responsible for introducing the wooden spoon and also figured prominently in the decision to bring in Offside?
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Post by HappyClapper on Mar 2, 2015 16:32:31 GMT
Didn't Stoke invent rugby.............
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Post by leicspotter on Mar 2, 2015 16:40:23 GMT
As founder members of the Football League it is, I guess, inevitable that Stoke would be involved in a number of 'incidents' that have led to rule changes although we do seem to have had more than our "share". If Arse Whinger had his way we would also have been instrumental in doing away with throw ins, tackles and red & white stripes
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Post by metalhead on Mar 2, 2015 16:52:18 GMT
Wasn't the towel banned after Rory? Then Shotton had one stitched into his top. Don't think it was banned, teams just stopped supplying them. Nope. They were banned, the FA used some bollocks about it slowing down the game. Utter rubbish. Did it because most of the big teams really struggled. Only Chelsea didn't.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Mar 2, 2015 17:20:34 GMT
Don't think it was banned, teams just stopped supplying them. Nope. They were banned, the FA used some bollocks about it slowing down the game. Utter rubbish. Did it because most of the big teams really struggled. Only Chelsea didn't. Oh, how pathetic
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Post by metalhead on Mar 2, 2015 17:59:32 GMT
Nope. They were banned, the FA used some bollocks about it slowing down the game. Utter rubbish. Did it because most of the big teams really struggled. Only Chelsea didn't. Oh, how pathetic It's not like we're not used to it by now, it's the FA after all
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Post by march4 on Mar 2, 2015 18:27:27 GMT
An early HQ of the FA was in Etruria and so Stoke was literally at the centre of the footballing world.
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 2, 2015 18:30:10 GMT
Not really a rule change but Stoke held the first ever top flight Sunday league game in 1974 v Chelsea (1-0, Hurst).
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Post by metalhead on Mar 2, 2015 18:57:20 GMT
An early HQ of the FA was in Etruria and so Stoke was literally at the centre of the footballing world. Wow, I never knew that. If only it stayed there, football might have a bit more fucking common sense involved.
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Post by roosterscomb on Mar 2, 2015 18:57:38 GMT
Is it true, time added on came about after a Stoke game, where the ball was kicked out of the ground when Stoke got a last minute penalty, by the time the ball was recovered the 90 minutes was up? Also after a Stoke game the powers that be decided to have nets installed because of goals been awarded when actually the ball had gone wide on more than one occasion? There was an article on the guy who invented football nets in When Saturday Comes recently. An engineer from Liverpool called John Alexander Brodie who also built the Mersey Tunnel and planned New Delhi. Not anything to do with Stoke though... The penalty came after an 1891 Stoke-Notts County game when the ref was outraged and campaigned for a rule change. Injury time was in the same year after a game v Villa at the Vic. Stoke had come from 3-0 down to 3-2 when they had a penalty in the last minute - so a Villa player - believed to be keeper Bill Dunning - booted the ball out of the ground. It's all here...
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Post by lewando on Mar 2, 2015 20:57:11 GMT
Arsène Wenger once suggested the rules on throw ins should be changed after playing Stoke. True story.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 2, 2015 21:24:11 GMT
In the late 19th and early 20th centuries the goalie was allowed to carry the ball to the half way line and distribute it to forwards, but most goal keepers did not take advantage of such "unsporting behaviour". Except our goalie, non other than the famous Leigh Richmond Roose, perfected this and the accuracy of his throw caused havoc in opposition penalty area. So much so that other clubs complained to the FA that this was not in the spirit of the game. So the rules were changed restricting goalies to their own penalty area. Leigh went on to fight and die in the trenches during WW1 and was awarded the Military Medal for his bravery. I recently read his biography "Lost in France" and, as well as being a great source of social and football history, it describes his families search for his fate. It turned out that the authorities spelt his surname Rouse instead of Roose which condemned him to obscurity fir many years. His biography helped to put this right. www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty-details.aspx?cid=75199170&name=ROOSE,%20LEIGH%20RICHMOND
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Mar 2, 2015 21:26:19 GMT
In theory we must have also invented the local derby game because if Stoke and Notts County were the first 2 teams on this earth we must have been playing the fookers every week for god knows how long and the A52 must have been rammed every sat'd afternoon with Horses and Carts going East one week and west tuther
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Post by jaybee on Mar 2, 2015 22:17:26 GMT
I noticed on Saturday that every time a Stoke player handled the ball, it was a foul. Whenever a hull player handled the ball, the rules were changed to 'no foul'!!
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Post by dutchpeter72 on Mar 3, 2015 6:10:04 GMT
Were not Stoke involved in a match that lead to studs being introduced on football boots? I believe the opposition were wearing hob nailed boots that day.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 3, 2015 7:13:09 GMT
I believe we were involved in the first game played under floodlights as well.
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Post by euan ouzami on Mar 3, 2015 7:21:02 GMT
Also, after a Stoke game it became a rule that programme sellers (or indeed purveyors of any football memorabilia or items designed for human consumption) were no longer to be taken into account when considering whether a forward is offside.
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