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Post by huddy on Mar 3, 2015 11:09:58 GMT
Crouch particularly has been slaughtered by the 'cognoscenti'.All of whom have been quiet,very quiet about him for four games Says the man who 'slaughters' Diouf on a regular basis. The same mame Diouf that has a whole 1 goal less than Crouch with 2 less apperances. Never said anything other than he has an awful touch and pace isn't everything.Great on Saturday though wasn't he? |
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Post by metalhead on Mar 3, 2015 11:14:17 GMT
Can we cut the Pulis crap please? I'm not a PHW but I started this thread to discuss and appreciate two of our players not discuss Tony. If you want to talk about him, start a thread entitled "crouch Walters under pulis and Hughes", don't hijack a thread where it's not wanted. Ta. Ok, I'll answer it a different way. What a fucking stupid question. Does it really matter? For fuck sake, are you fucking serious mate? Hey, let's all just not appreciate our players and turn into sterile boring Arsenal fans who talk about nothing on their forums but other teams, other players and how they want their manager to get sacked. It's not supposed to be a serious question, it's a rhetorical question more aimed at appreciating two very good players at our football club. Like other threads titled "Just how good is Bojan", we already know he's fucking superb, it's rhetorical, it's about appreciating our players. I didn't want this to turn into a Pulis thread because while I love Tony and appreciate his service to this football club, arguing about him for the 57 millionth time really doesn't do any good and just divides our fanbase. Just appreciate Crouch and Walters. All you need to say about Tony is that they were terrific signings, because I doubt anyone would disagree with you. Jesus christ, the fucking Oatcake!!! |
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Post by foster on Mar 3, 2015 11:15:51 GMT
How many players have scored 50 or more goals for Stoke? Now theres a question for the boffins 7 and a half? |
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 3, 2015 11:16:13 GMT
Says the man who 'slaughters' Diouf on a regular basis. The same mame Diouf that has a whole 1 goal less than Crouch with 2 less apperances. Great on Saturday though wasn't he? What's that got to do with anything apart from another snipe. Which you don't do of course. |
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Post by Done it for scfcbuxton on Mar 3, 2015 11:31:59 GMT
How many players have scored 50 or more goals for Stoke? Now theres a question for the boffins 34  |
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Post by huddy on Mar 3, 2015 11:35:29 GMT
Great on Saturday though wasn't he? What's that got to do with anything apart from another snipe. Which you don't do of course. Nice edit. |
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Post by Kjones9 on Mar 3, 2015 11:54:43 GMT
What's that got to do with anything apart from another snipe. Which you don't do of course. Nice edit. Did you not type that? |
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Post by metalhead on Mar 3, 2015 12:01:21 GMT
Well, it's been well and truly fucking hijacked.
Thanks guys.
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Post by mcf on Mar 3, 2015 12:15:04 GMT
Ok, I'll answer it a different way. What a fucking stupid question. Does it really matter? For fuck sake, are you fucking serious mate? Hey, let's all just not appreciate our players and turn into sterile boring Arsenal fans who talk about nothing on their forums but other teams, other players and how they want their manager to get sacked. It's not supposed to be a serious question, it's a rhetorical question more aimed at appreciating two very good players at our football club. Like other threads titled "Just how good is Bojan", we already know he's fucking superb, it's rhetorical, it's about appreciating our players. I didn't want this to turn into a Pulis thread because while I love Tony and appreciate his service to this football club, arguing about him for the 57 millionth time really doesn't do any good and just divides our fanbase. Just appreciate Crouch and Walters. All you need to say about Tony is that they were terrific signings, because I doubt anyone would disagree with you. Jesus christ, the fucking Oatcake!!! I didn't mention SuperTone once - you mentioned him first. |
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Post by mcf on Mar 3, 2015 12:16:48 GMT
in the prem though? no...so shut it!!  Whats that got to do with it  I was actually making the point how well these two have done to come up so close to one of the greatest Stoke players in recent times, the fact they've exclusively been whilst the club is in the Premier League just highlights that point even more, also the fact Crouch has played 60 odd less games than Ric  you should have provided more clarity as to why you mentioned him then..... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 12:19:30 GMT
No they haven't. Got nothing to do with that at all? Why hijack a thread straight away? yes they have these pair have come in for plenty of stick over the years from the pulis hating spunk bubbles ...and non-pulis hating spunk bubbles too; and plenty of support too from pulis hating spunk bubbles and non-pulis hating spunk bubbles. |
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Post by RAF on Mar 3, 2015 12:20:38 GMT
Didn't realise Walters has only been playing for us for 2 seasons. And I'm not having a dig at him, just pointing out that he's not prolific and as such his goalscoring record can't be used as an argument here. yes it can... you just have to put it into to context of where he often plays for us as well. both get regularly slated and both have always done the business. They haven't 'ALWAYS' done the fucking business for us though have they you daft tit? H |
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Post by bobthethrob on Mar 3, 2015 12:21:44 GMT
Walters on 33, Crouch on 32. Certainly not beyond the realms of possibility. The race is on Thoughts? That they've certainly shown the wankstains a thing or two. Hear we go again with UNDERCURRENTS from the AGENDA BRENDAS GET a separate sub board please Brenda, them were the good old days and argue the toss in there over Teepee all day long, whether he was mint or toss. Of course there's no I between if your brenda |
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Post by mcf on Mar 3, 2015 12:29:51 GMT
yes they have these pair have come in for plenty of stick over the years from the pulis hating spunk bubbles ...and non-pulis hating spunk bubbles too; and plenty of support too from pulis hating spunk bubbles and non-pulis hating spunk bubbles. always the wankstains that hated them most....especially walters. |
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Post by mcf on Mar 3, 2015 12:30:34 GMT
yes it can... you just have to put it into to context of where he often plays for us as well. both get regularly slated and both have always done the business. They haven't 'ALWAYS' done the fucking business for us though have they you daft tit? H i think they have...these 2 were never the problem. |
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Post by RAF on Mar 3, 2015 12:44:26 GMT
They haven't 'ALWAYS' done the fucking business for us though have they you daft tit? H i think they have...these 2 were never the problem. Oh yeah, I remember you saying how chuffed you were with those penna misses for a start. H |
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Post by mcf on Mar 3, 2015 12:53:59 GMT
i think they have...these 2 were never the problem. Oh yeah, I remember you saying how chuffed you were with those penna misses for a start. H my memory isn't what it used to be |
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Post by bobthethrob on Mar 3, 2015 13:02:01 GMT
My mates car was in for an MOT The other month, he normally gives me a lift when were both on nights.
Anyway I had catch the bus, it went through Hanley., late, on a Thursday.
These 2 teenage girls got on, both eating burgers, both had hair tied back into council house facelifts, ski pants on, the works.
They were both chattering away like monkeys about who was fitter out of Justin Berber and Harry stiles. For ages, the whole journey, and I didn't have me earphones
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 13:11:14 GMT
Has this turned into a Crouch versus Diouf thread?? Jesus wept.
They're two completely different players but they both have something to give, and they'll both deliver a similar amount of goals.
Crouch is like a Bentley. Slow off the mark and a bit clunky in the turns, but quality in abundance and a refined finish.
Diouf is like a GTR. Lightning off the mark but horrendous to control when at full speed. Might do a lap in record time. More than likely end up a write-off in the tyres. Mad as a box of frogs.
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Post by mcf on Mar 3, 2015 13:17:25 GMT
My mates car was in for an MOT The other month, he normally gives me a lift when were both on nights. Anyway I had catch the bus, it went through Hanley., late, on a Thursday. These 2 teenage girls got on, both eating burgers, both had hair tied back into council house facelifts, ski pants on, the works. They were both chattering away like monkeys about who was fitter out of Justin Berber and Harry stiles. For ages, the whole journey, and I didn't have me earphones THIS IS WHAT THIS THREAD IS LIKE who did they pick in the end? |
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Post by RAF on Mar 3, 2015 13:24:20 GMT
Oh yeah, I remember you saying how chuffed you were with those penna misses for a start. H my memory isn't what it used to be :) They are however invaluable at present and have been all season. H |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 3, 2015 14:50:41 GMT
He's hardly been slaughtered has he? People have questioned the merits of him starting games regularly when surrounded by certain other players, and they are perfectly valid observations. The fact that his impact as a substitute has been more consistent than his impact when starting backs that up. He's been playing well of late, whether as a starter or a substitute and Mark Hughes is consistently getting the best out of him. Long may that continue. However, the debate continues ahead of tomorrow's game given Crouch and Adam both had a positive impact on Saturday's game. I wouldn't be entertaining the thought of starting both of them, together with Walters because we instantly go from being a team with pace on the counter attack to a cumbersome team who are relatively easy to defend against. For me, it would be the team that started against Man City tomorrow with Crouch and Diouf up top, Adam on the bench with Walters who looked to be struggling with injury again on Saturday. You want to play the team that got beat 4-1 twice? No thanks 4-4-2 doesn't work. Adam to start tomorrow. We played superbly well against Manchester City with that formation and the game could and should have been over before they turned up the heat and we ran out of legs given our injury crisis. We played shit against Blackburn but even then, we could and should have been 3-0 up inside 20 minutes and the game is over. To be honest, I don't really care how we line up. We will give a good account of ourselves and try to win the game whatever system we take to the field with. I aren't a fan of Adam, Walters and Crouch in the same team though, particularly from the start of games, hence given that I believe Crouch deserves to start given his form of late, I think Adam in the fall guy. Despite the injuries, we still have plenty of options. I just hope that one of them doesn't include a starting combination of Adam, Crouch and Walters in 3 of the 4 offensive positions. |
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Post by owdestokie on Mar 3, 2015 20:57:50 GMT
He's hardly been slaughtered has he? People have questioned the merits of him starting games regularly when surrounded by certain other players, and they are perfectly valid observations. The fact that his impact as a substitute has been more consistent than his impact when starting backs that up. He's been playing well of late, whether as a starter or a substitute and Mark Hughes is consistently getting the best out of him. Long may that continue. However, the debate continues ahead of tomorrow's game given Crouch and Adam both had a positive impact on Saturday's game. I wouldn't be entertaining the thought of starting both of them, together with Walters because we instantly go from being a team with pace on the counter attack to a cumbersome team who are relatively easy to defend against. For me, it would be the team that started against Man City tomorrow with Crouch and Diouf up top, Adam on the bench with Walters who looked to be struggling with injury again on Saturday. 442 Dave? Not sure I like that idea. Agree with Walters looking sluggish and for me Arnie needs to given a run of games on the right. Think we should stick as close to the 4231 as we can, it's paying dividends "Arnie needs a run of games"........FFS. Players "earn" a run of games. Why the fuck he gets special consideration is beyond me |
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Post by bobthethrob on Mar 3, 2015 23:36:06 GMT
My mates car was in for an MOT The other month, he normally gives me a lift when were both on nights. Anyway I had catch the bus, it went through Hanley., late, on a Thursday. These 2 teenage girls got on, both eating burgers, both had hair tied back into council house facelifts, ski pants on, the works. They were both chattering away like monkeys about who was fitter out of Justin Berber and Harry stiles. For ages, the whole journey, and I didn't have me earphones THIS IS WHAT THIS THREAD IS LIKE who did they pick in the end? Both, neither I dunno, they were still wobbling on about them when I got off the bus. Half the words they used I didn't understand. Its like the teepee argument, neither could convince the other and listening to it was like sticking my head in a saucepan and going BANG BANG BANG for like 15 minutes. I told this story to mar lady and she laughed and told me they onner called ski pants anymore but leggings. They were certainly very tight and shiny. More so than leggings I used to see when I was out and about up town. |
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 4, 2015 5:36:27 GMT
442 Dave? Not sure I like that idea. Agree with Walters looking sluggish and for me Arnie needs to given a run of games on the right. Think we should stick as close to the 4231 as we can, it's paying dividends "Arnie needs a run of games"........FFS. Players "earn" a run of games. Why the fuck he gets special consideration is beyond me Simple really Don't want to see us run JW into the ground unnecessarily, we've seen the results of this in previous seasons. If the guy is feeling his injury why pump him with injections when we can play an equally capable player in that role. But I guess your hatred for certain players won't let you see sense. |
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Post by owdestokie on Mar 4, 2015 17:17:53 GMT
"Arnie needs a run of games"........FFS. Players "earn" a run of games. Why the fuck he gets special consideration is beyond me Simple really Don't want to see us run JW into the ground unnecessarily, we've seen the results of this in previous seasons. If the guy is feeling his injury why pump him with injections when we can play an equally capable player in that role. But I guess your hatred for certain players won't let you see sense. I don't have hatred for any player!!!!!! You earn the right to have an opportunity for a run of games. Are you seriously suggesting that "Arnie" has earned that right or is it simply rose coloured favouritism. If Walters was not fit to play Leslie would not pick him as he has already publicly suggested that the medics are looking after him, or is it as simple as Leslie not having the same level of confidence as you in "Arnie" |
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Post by dozintheseventees on Mar 4, 2015 17:25:06 GMT
I'm guessing SJW would gladly give one of his MANY bollocks to score his 50th tonight.
Particularly if it's the winner.
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Post by stokemanusa on Mar 4, 2015 17:56:06 GMT
Crouch has as many as Lukaku (7) in three less league games... mind-boggling at times.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 4, 2015 19:28:59 GMT
I think Crouch will finish above Walters, but it's a good little competition to have between them. I have a feeling that Crouch will get more minutes on the pitch over the next two seasons, and that's even assuming Walters signs on for an extra year. I hope he is with us for another couple of years, but I doubt Walters would have played so much this season if we had a fit Odemwingie. Out of interest of the 46 headed goals Crouchy has scored does any one have any idea how many of those he has scored in a Stoke shirt? 5 of 10 in 2011/12 3 of 7 in 2012/13 2 of 8 in 2013/14 2 of 7 in 2014/15 I thought he had more than 2 in the Premier League this season? Oh well, that's what the official site says: www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/profile.statistics.html/peter-crouch |
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