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Post by numpty40 on Feb 12, 2015 0:35:51 GMT
N'Zonzi must be a clear winner but first half there were two or three in the running. Moses excellent first half but shocking second half. Muniesa had a half decent game but was badly at fault for the first goal and went on a one man crusade to try and rectify the mistake and completely lost his discipline. But despite that was still pretty decent. The nearest to Zonz was probably Crouch.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 12, 2015 1:39:47 GMT
N'Zonzi must be a clear winner but first half there were two or three in the running. Moses excellent first half but shocking second half. Muniesa had a half decent game but was badly at fault for the first goal and went on a one man crusade to try and rectify the mistake and completely lost his discipline. But despite that was still pretty decent. The nearest to Zonz was probably Crouch. N'zonzi and crouch were both superb. I thought Arnie was excellent as well, diouf had a very decent game and despite some criticism, harshly I feel, I thought bardsley had a good game as well. Moses was great for half an hour before disappearing.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 12, 2015 1:44:32 GMT
MOM for me was Shenton.
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Post by pegleg on Feb 12, 2015 2:11:19 GMT
Thought Crouch was superb. The lad worked his socks off and hardly put a foot wrong. MOM for me by miles.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 12, 2015 3:15:18 GMT
Crouch, no contest.
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Post by 2004 on Feb 12, 2015 7:22:46 GMT
Shenton
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 12, 2015 7:38:03 GMT
N'Zonzi must be a clear winner but first half there were two or three in the running. Moses excellent first half but shocking second half. Muniesa had a half decent game but was badly at fault for the first goal and went on a one man crusade to try and rectify the mistake and completely lost his discipline. But despite that was still pretty decent. The nearest to Zonz was probably Crouch. muniesa ??!!! Yday he had the tactical discipline of a schoolboy playing in the yard during break !!!
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Post by metalhead on Feb 12, 2015 7:40:59 GMT
Opinions eh? I thought N'Zonzi had a very poor game.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 12, 2015 8:06:06 GMT
Opinions eh? I thought N'Zonzi had a very poor game. What was poor about it? He was fantastic and the only player we had, discounting begovic, that could get into their side. N'zonzi is a class footballer who is criminally underrated by many stoke fans both on here and at the game itself.
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Post by Northy on Feb 12, 2015 8:10:48 GMT
Nzonzi and Crouch, and I thought Bardsley did well considering it isn't his natural position
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Post by ohbottom on Feb 12, 2015 8:28:02 GMT
Nzonzi was superb all game, MOM for me. Crouch wasn't far behind, but those 2 were a long way in front of the rest
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Post by metalhead on Feb 12, 2015 8:47:08 GMT
Opinions eh? I thought N'Zonzi had a very poor game. What was poor about it? He was fantastic and the only player we had, discounting begovic, that could get into their side. N'zonzi is a class footballer who is criminally underrated by many stoke fans both on here and at the game itself. Too often he ran into trouble with the ball and lost it. I counted god knows how many dribbles that ended with nothing and us losing the ball. When he did carry it, I felt he didn't do anything with it. Like I said, opinions eh. I know what he brings to our team, he's an exceptional player I just feel he wasn't great last night.
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Post by ST1 Stokie on Feb 12, 2015 8:54:25 GMT
Crouch hands down. Won everything in the air some good touches on the ball, scored the goal and caused them problems all night
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Post by chiefdelilah on Feb 12, 2015 8:55:25 GMT
Crouch, Arnie, Nzonzi and Bego were our best players for me.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 12, 2015 8:57:30 GMT
What was poor about it? He was fantastic and the only player we had, discounting begovic, that could get into their side. N'zonzi is a class footballer who is criminally underrated by many stoke fans both on here and at the game itself. Too often he ran into trouble with the ball and lost it. I counted god knows how many dribbles that ended with nothing and us losing the ball. When he did carry it, I felt he didn't do anything with it. Like I said, opinions eh. I know what he brings to our team, he's an exceptional player I just feel he wasn't great last night. I think that sums it up perfectly. He gets slaughtered for keeping it simple and accused of not doing enough yet when he takes the game by the scruff of the neck, drives forward, loses it a couple of times, he gets slaughtered for that as well. The lad really can't win. He got crowded out and lost the ball 3 times in the space of as many 2nd half minutes and the bloke behind us was doing his nut. For me, N'zonzi was magnificent last night and I felt we could ask little more outside of what he gave us.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 12, 2015 8:59:44 GMT
Too often he ran into trouble with the ball and lost it. I counted god knows how many dribbles that ended with nothing and us losing the ball. When he did carry it, I felt he didn't do anything with it. Like I said, opinions eh. I know what he brings to our team, he's an exceptional player I just feel he wasn't great last night. I think that sums it up perfectly. He gets slaughtered for keeping it simple and accused of not doing enough yet when he takes the game by the scruff of the neck, drives forward, loses it a couple of times, he gets slaughtered for that as well. The lad really can't win. He got crowded out and lost the ball 3 times in the space of as many 2nd half minutes and the bloke behind us was doing his nut. For me, N'zonzi was magnificent last night and I felt we could ask little more outside of what he gave us. Fair enough. I clearly missed what else he gave us. He's a quality player. I don't argue with that.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 12, 2015 9:04:51 GMT
I think that sums it up perfectly. He gets slaughtered for keeping it simple and accused of not doing enough yet when he takes the game by the scruff of the neck, drives forward, loses it a couple of times, he gets slaughtered for that as well. The lad really can't win. He got crowded out and lost the ball 3 times in the space of as many 2nd half minutes and the bloke behind us was doing his nut. For me, N'zonzi was magnificent last night and I felt we could ask little more outside of what he gave us. Fair enough. I clearly missed what else he gave us. He's a quality player. I don't argue with that. He gave us an ability to play in tight spaces. An ability to be available and more often than not take the ball under pressure and emerge with the ball having opened up the pitch. Arnie has the same ability, displays it regularly, yet it is something that always seems to go unnoticed. Not knocking your view, just expressing my thoughts.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 12, 2015 9:20:07 GMT
Fair enough. I clearly missed what else he gave us. He's a quality player. I don't argue with that. He gave us an ability to play in tight spaces. An ability to be available and more often than not take the ball under pressure and emerge with the ball having opened up the pitch. Arnie has the same ability, displays it regularly, yet it is something that always seems to go unnoticed. Not knocking your view, just expressing my thoughts. I do agree, but just not last night. Felt it wasn't his night. Glenn didn't help much mind.
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Post by Kjones9 on Feb 12, 2015 9:29:57 GMT
Opinions eh? I thought N'Zonzi had a very poor game.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 9:39:37 GMT
Opinions eh? I thought N'Zonzi had a very poor game. agree completely mate had a lot of the ball but virtually everytime he did receive it he had the first touch of an elephant and gave it away and most of his passes were far too light which, again resulted in us losing possession. i have no issue with him keeping it simple whatsoever but the fact is that last night he couldn't do that as even his simple passes were terrible, when they did get to one of his team mates they were invariably already marked with no options or he played it in such a way that they were never going to get it under control before being closed down. had an off day for me Crouch worked hard, diouf worked hard but most of the team behind them were well off their game last night with misplaced passes left, right and centre (apart from Arnie's frankly superb cross for the goal obviously) that achieved nothing other than losing possession we were ok in the first half (this idea that some have that we could have gone in ahead is quite frankly bemusing) and competed but after that we were second to everything and second best at everything. bad day at the office but it's the team that are 2nd in the league so nothing to get overly worried about. pick ourselves up and carry on the good form we've had so far in 2015. i know this board like to wrist slash but after losing to Man city really isn't the time to do it. if we suffer the same results in the next couple then fair enough but let's just write this one off as an off day and get back on course now. still 10th so no biggie. MOM Crouch/Diouf purely for work rate...in terms of quality then i don't really see anyone that came out of last night deserving any kind of award
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Post by metalhead on Feb 12, 2015 9:47:17 GMT
Opinions eh? I thought N'Zonzi had a very poor game. Opinions eh? I thought N'Zonzi had a very poor game. agree completely mate had a lot of the ball but virtually everytime he did receive it he had the first touch of an elephant and gave it away and most of his passes were far too light which, again resulted in us losing possession. i have no issue with him keeping it simple whatsoever but the fact is that last night he couldn't do that as even his simple passes were terrible, when they did get to one of his team mates they were invariably already marked with no options or he played it in such a way that they were never going to get it under control before being closed down. had an off day for me Crouch worked hard, diouf worked hard but most of the team behind them were well off their game last night with misplaced passes left, right and centre (apart from Arnie's frankly superb cross for the goal obviously) that achieved nothing other than losing possession we were ok in the first half (this idea that some have that we could have gone in ahead is quite frankly bemusing) and competed but after that we were second to everything and second best at everything. bad day at the office but it's the team that are 2nd in the league so nothing to get overly worried about. pick ourselves up and carry on the good form we've had so far in 2015. i know this board like to wrist slash but after losing to Man city really isn't the time to do it. if we suffer the same results in the next couple then fair enough but let's just write this one off as an off day and get back on course now. still 10th so no biggie. MOM Crouch/Diouf purely for work rate...in terms of quality then i don't really see anyone that came out of last night deserving any kind of award Forgot about that awful touch just outside the box that lost us a chance. He's a good player and he's had some great games for us. Last night, I thought we were pretty poor but our squad is thin. Missing Bojan and now Ireland, we had no real creativity in the centre of midfield. I figured he might start Adam, but when he came on, you see why he doesn't.
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Post by dozintheseventees on Feb 12, 2015 10:40:26 GMT
MILNER.
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Post by Miles Offside on Feb 12, 2015 10:42:49 GMT
Nzonzi, with Crouch a close second.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 10:50:07 GMT
Nzonzi was superb all game, MOM for me. Crouch wasn't far behind, but those 2 were a long way in front of the rest Yep Fonzy for me too.
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 12, 2015 11:14:07 GMT
Opinions eh? I thought N'Zonzi had a very poor game. agree completely mate had a lot of the ball but virtually everytime he did receive it he had the first touch of an elephant and gave it away and most of his passes were far too light which, again resulted in us losing possession. i have no issue with him keeping it simple whatsoever but the fact is that last night he couldn't do that as even his simple passes were terrible, when they did get to one of his team mates they were invariably already marked with no options or he played it in such a way that they were never going to get it under control before being closed down. had an off day for me Crouch worked hard, diouf worked hard but most of the team behind them were well off their game last night with misplaced passes left, right and centre (apart from Arnie's frankly superb cross for the goal obviously) that achieved nothing other than losing possession we were ok in the first half (this idea that some have that we could have gone in ahead is quite frankly bemusing) and competed but after that we were second to everything and second best at everything. bad day at the office but it's the team that are 2nd in the league so nothing to get overly worried about. pick ourselves up and carry on the good form we've had so far in 2015. i know this board like to wrist slash but after losing to Man city really isn't the time to do it. if we suffer the same results in the next couple then fair enough but let's just write this one off as an off day and get back on course now. still 10th so no biggie. MOM Crouch/Diouf purely for work rate...in terms of quality then i don't really see anyone that came out of last night deserving any kind of award I thought we were very good first half and deserved to go in ahead at half time. Small margins in football and if the referee had made the right decision and awarded Stoke a penalty and sent Milner off when it was 0-0, there would have been a good chance of going in at half time comfortably ahead. I know it's all hypothetical but first half we surprised Man City by going on the front foot with a 4-4-2. Half time they reorganised, tweeked things, ie seemed to push Milner further forward and did dominate second half.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 11:16:35 GMT
agree completely mate had a lot of the ball but virtually everytime he did receive it he had the first touch of an elephant and gave it away and most of his passes were far too light which, again resulted in us losing possession. i have no issue with him keeping it simple whatsoever but the fact is that last night he couldn't do that as even his simple passes were terrible, when they did get to one of his team mates they were invariably already marked with no options or he played it in such a way that they were never going to get it under control before being closed down. had an off day for me Crouch worked hard, diouf worked hard but most of the team behind them were well off their game last night with misplaced passes left, right and centre (apart from Arnie's frankly superb cross for the goal obviously) that achieved nothing other than losing possession we were ok in the first half (this idea that some have that we could have gone in ahead is quite frankly bemusing) and competed but after that we were second to everything and second best at everything. bad day at the office but it's the team that are 2nd in the league so nothing to get overly worried about. pick ourselves up and carry on the good form we've had so far in 2015. i know this board like to wrist slash but after losing to Man city really isn't the time to do it. if we suffer the same results in the next couple then fair enough but let's just write this one off as an off day and get back on course now. still 10th so no biggie. MOM Crouch/Diouf purely for work rate...in terms of quality then i don't really see anyone that came out of last night deserving any kind of award I thought we were very good first half and deserved to go in ahead at half time. Small margins in football and if the referee had made the right decision and awarded Stoke a penalty and sent Milner off when it was 0-0, there would have been a good chance of going in at half time comfortably ahead. I know it's all hypothetical but first half we surprised Man City by going on the front foot with a 4-4-2. Half time they reorganised, tweeked things, ie seemed to push Milner further forward and did dominate second half. i thought in the first 10 mins or so we looked really good and competitive and took the game to them. after that though i can't really remember many instances in the whole game where we even looked like creating a scoring chance (apart from the goal itself obviously ). we looked like Swansea a year back; plenty of the ball, plenty of territory yes..did we even create any real chances? no
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 12, 2015 12:06:27 GMT
N'zonzi for me too. No player playing almost 100 minutes is not going to do a few things wrong, but he was superb for most of the time. I'm a big fan of Glenn, but compared to N'zonzi, he had a mare last night. I can forgive him for that though because he's normally strong for us. Crouch was superb too. A very close second to N'zonzi IMO. Then Bego. Moses's superb first half gets him a mention in dispatches.
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Post by leicspotter on Feb 12, 2015 12:35:21 GMT
Crouch for me just shaded from Zonz, and anyway, he was SO SLOW walking off he deprived Shenton of his first touch in the Prem...Mick, even you would have moved quicker!
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 12, 2015 12:38:35 GMT
Crouch for me just shaded from Zonz, and anyway, he was SO SLOW walking off he deprived Shenton of his first touch in the Prem...Mick, even you would have moved quicker! My eyes are still better than yours LP. Shenton had one touch just before the whistle blew. M.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 12, 2015 12:40:56 GMT
If N'Zonzi was MOM can we just dismiss any notion that he is a defensive midfielder, there to offer Glenda assistance because if you think he is, you simply cannot give him man of the match
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