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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 31, 2015 20:00:26 GMT
No wall, "HUGE" gap.....what was that all about???
Good job Begger's got down to it!!!
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jan 31, 2015 20:01:44 GMT
I did wonder that myself.
At least bego had a clear view of the shot.
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Post by heavysoul on Jan 31, 2015 20:08:51 GMT
Begovic was the only Stoke player switched on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 20:09:47 GMT
Cant remember ever seeing that before I was shocked we did not put a wall up.
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Post by DentySCFC on Jan 31, 2015 20:11:08 GMT
From that distance, Bego should be able move quick enough to get it away, having a wall only blocks his view.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jan 31, 2015 20:11:22 GMT
Was that because Ryan wasn't there to organise things?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 31, 2015 20:12:26 GMT
Ridiculous, I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 31, 2015 20:13:07 GMT
I think this may have come from the great Gordon Banks.
I met him the day after the QPR game when Bego was undone by a free kick and Gordon said he was going to advise him not to have a wall for long range free kicks so you get a clearly view of things.
He reckons a keeper would always back himself to save a straight shot as he did today.
The thought is a wall gives a player something to shape the ball around and without it they just hit it straight and true.
Interesting theory as long as it works!
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Post by RAF on Jan 31, 2015 20:14:54 GMT
I think this may have come from the great Gordon Banks. I met him the day after the QPR game when Bego was undone by a free kick and Gordon said he was going to advise him not to have a wall for long range free kicks so you get a clearly view of things. He reckons a keeper would always back himself to save a straight shot as he did today. The thought is a wall gives a player something to shape the ball around and without it they just hit it straight and true. Interesting theory as long as it works! Not just that you have a line in front of you jostling and moving , it's another thing to put you off. It's a fair enough theory. H |
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Post by MayBankStokie_ST5 on Jan 31, 2015 20:19:39 GMT
Surely it was the choice of Begovic not to have a wall?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 20:20:36 GMT
It was 100% the right thing to do. A keeper of Begos calibre should never get beaten from that far out WHEN he has a clear view of the ball. No wall necessary for me.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 31, 2015 20:22:25 GMT
No wall, "HUGE" gap.....what was that all about??? Good job Begger's got down to it!!! If you asked players to take 100 shots at begovic from 35 yards out, I'd hazard a guess he'd save all of them. He didn't need a wall and had he had one it would have made the shot harder to save. |
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Post by Plave on Jan 31, 2015 20:23:07 GMT
Yeah from that range when they equally might chip it in the box a two man wall doesn't help much, the keeper would rather have good sight of the ball.
Plus then you have two extra defenders defending.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 20:23:48 GMT
It was 100% the right thing to do. A keeper of Begos calibre should never get beaten from that far out WHEN he has a clear view of the ball. No wall necessary for me. Agreed. The free kick taker will never score from that distance if the keeper doesn't have a wall and says...come on then  |
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Post by no1972 on Jan 31, 2015 20:24:17 GMT
Bego did this earlier in the year,from that distance a keeper should be able to get across,his positioning when we have a wall is poor like the one at OPR.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 20:24:30 GMT
I think this may have come from the great Gordon Banks. I met him the day after the QPR game when Bego was undone by a free kick and Gordon said he was going to advise him not to have a wall for long range free kicks so you get a clearly view of things. He reckons a keeper would always back himself to save a straight shot as he did today. The thought is a wall gives a player something to shape the ball around and without it they just hit it straight and true. Interesting theory as long as it works! When Gordon Banks gives you advice on goalkeeping, not only do you take it on board, you apologise for not asking him about it first. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 31, 2015 20:26:54 GMT
It was 100% the right thing to do. A keeper of Begos calibre should never get beaten from that far out WHEN he has a clear view of the ball. No wall necessary for me. "great minds think alike" Greenhoff, or "fools seldom differ". :-) |
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Post by skip on Jan 31, 2015 20:32:34 GMT
Bego gesticulated to Whelan I think, 'no wall'. Unorthodox but a good call.
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Post by bertieb on Jan 31, 2015 22:03:10 GMT
I was Bego who waved away the wall.
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Post by parttimelurker on Jan 31, 2015 22:29:54 GMT
It also screws up any plans for a clever free kick as they usually rely on 5 people being occupied in the wall. I think we'll see more of this, and not just at Stoke.
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Post by foster on Jan 31, 2015 22:38:17 GMT
I think this may have come from the great Gordon Banks. I met him the day after the QPR game when Bego was undone by a free kick and Gordon said he was going to advise him not to have a wall for long range free kicks so you get a clearly view of things. He reckons a keeper would always back himself to save a straight shot as he did today. The thought is a wall gives a player something to shape the ball around and without it they just hit it straight and true. Interesting theory as long as it works! Not just that you have a line in front of you jostling and moving , it's another thing to put you off. It's a fair enough theory. H Decent theory in my view. The wall blocks one half of the goal and Beggo gets a clear view of the other. At least this way the wall knows to stay still and not jump. |
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Post by tuum on Feb 1, 2015 2:49:06 GMT
Cant remember ever seeing that before I was shocked we did not put a wall up. He (Bego)has done it a couple of times already this season. |
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 1, 2015 3:22:29 GMT
For me we could have at least had a two man wall, at least something, it was just a straight shot at goal, and although Begger's got down to it, if he'd have been that slight bit slower getting down, it would have easily sneaked in!!!
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Post by Northy on Feb 1, 2015 6:15:41 GMT
I was Bego who waved away the wall. Were you? Quality save mate |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 16:15:33 GMT
Apologies if this has already been covered but what the hell were we playing at in the second half when QPR got that free kick about 30 yards out and we didn't even bother putting a wall up to protect our goal?
We had a great view of it from our seats in The Boothen. Begovic was to his right hand side of the goal but there was absolutely no wall or protection for the opposite side.
Their set piece taker took full advantage and struck a great shot into the empty space and we only got away with it due to a good save by Asmir.
If there is a wall there it blocks the low driven shot. Instead he'd have to get it over the wall and back down on target, not the free effort we afforded them.
Very bizarre
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 16:40:31 GMT
If Banks says it's the best thing to do, then it's the best thing to do.
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