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Post by WorkingclassHero on Jan 31, 2015 19:00:06 GMT
Wilson - this guy had a shocker today, distribution is poor, if anything we should be getting rid of him rather than Huth
Wolf - looks ok but needs to play with a leader. A lot like mertesacker. Would make a good partner for Huth in shawcross absence. Huth shoukd be retained.
Muni- poor game today don't like him and wolf together at all. Happy for him to partner Huth or shawcross of play on the left in Pieters absence
Bardsley - dodgy we need a new rb prefer Geoff
For Newcastle I would play if shawcross is injured and Pieters is injured
Lb. Muni
Cb wolf
Cb Huth
Rb Cameron
We really should be keeping Huth
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Post by ChrisKamarasPerm on Jan 31, 2015 19:05:55 GMT
Could be worse we could have that QPR back 4.
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Post by jonney on Jan 31, 2015 19:32:26 GMT
I thought Muniesa had a cracking game. Lots of blocks and important headers. I know he isn't the finished article yet but I thought he did well today.
I reckon the defence struggled because the midfield disappeared in the second half.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 31, 2015 19:32:27 GMT
What exactly did any of the centre halves do wrong? Full backs both dreadful though.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Jan 31, 2015 19:34:09 GMT
Muni didn't have a poor game
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jan 31, 2015 19:35:31 GMT
Did we lose???
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Post by stokiemarc on Jan 31, 2015 19:39:17 GMT
Have Wolly and Muni conceded a goal yet when paired together? I don't think they have.....
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Post by andystokey on Jan 31, 2015 19:40:08 GMT
Didn't Wollshied and Munesia keep a clean sheet at Leicester and they didn't concede today as a pair.
Whilst I acknowledge Huth is a top bloke I'm afraid no recent appearances and a lack of fitness means Im pretty happy with W & M thanks.
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Post by borat on Jan 31, 2015 19:43:21 GMT
Wilson - this guy had a shocker today, distribution is poor, if anything we should be getting rid of him rather than Huth Wolf - looks ok but needs to play with a leader. A lot like mertesacker. Would make a good partner for Huth in shawcross absence. Huth shoukd be retained. Muni- poor game today don't like him and wolf together at all. Happy for him to partner Huth or shawcross of play on the left in Pieters absence Bardsley - dodgy we need a new rb prefer Geoff For Newcastle I would play if shawcross is injured and Pieters is injured Lb. Muni Cb wolf Cb Huth Rb Cameron We really should be keeping Huth Seriously mate, what a load of shit you've just wrote (apart from Wilson, I thought he was poor today). |
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 31, 2015 19:44:57 GMT
I thought Muni and Bardsley were good. Wolly ok. I'm fast approaching the stage where I don't want to see Marc Wilson in a Stoke shirt again though.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 31, 2015 19:46:55 GMT
I thought Muni and Bardsley were good. Wolly ok. I'm fast approaching the stage where I don't want to see Marc Wilson in a Stoke shirt again though. Thought Bards had a really solid game. Muni did OK but was a bit outmuscled at times. Wolly was alright but takes a few too many risks for me but it's nothing that can't get sorted. Wilo was probably the weakest link but he wasn't terrible. What was evident was that as a unit we look decidedly soft without Ryan. |
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Post by trigger on Jan 31, 2015 19:50:58 GMT
Muni was, so so for me. At times to eager to get in front of his man. There was an incident in the second half when he completely misread what he was attempting to and left Zamora unmarked, rather amateurish IMO. Great player to have but needs to settle down a bit for me.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 31, 2015 19:51:19 GMT
Right if we're slagging players then......The back four were fine. Whelan was my MOM. N'zonzi was fcuking shit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 19:52:26 GMT
I think Wollschied looked class, and his passing is superb. I think he could turn out to be a gem.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 19:53:13 GMT
Agreed, Whelan was superb today!
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Jan 31, 2015 19:53:29 GMT
Wolly was very effective today. Distribution was comfortable, won most (all?) of his headers, never panics. Class tackle on the right hand side in the box in the second half, playing onto their player to get a goal kick.
But Whelan had a right go at him in th 80th minute? Presumably for not closing down the attacker who got a shot away...
Muni was good, no worries. Was caught in the full back position a few times though...
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 31, 2015 19:56:18 GMT
already been criticised before the game for doubting the wisdom of playing Wilson instead of Muni, but it turns out I was right after all.
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Post by trigger on Jan 31, 2015 19:58:37 GMT
I thought Herr Wolly was outstanding. Great at reading the game, loads of short, fast accurate passing and links up with all around him.
For me just needs to get greater distance on his clearance headers as occasionally they were dropping only a few yards outside of our box.
Overall a solid 8/10 from me.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Jan 31, 2015 20:05:34 GMT
Wolly and Muni did well for me. Wilson had another poor game, why does he insist on an extra touch every time he gets the ball and still distributes it abysmally. Bardsley hasn't convinced me that he's any better,or even as good as Cameron in that role. If Ryan is fit and Pieters ditto then would Muni, Shawx, Wolly, Pieters work?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 31, 2015 20:24:06 GMT
I thought Nzonzi was terrific. Won loads in the air, made more passes than anyone else (and more attacking third passes) and three of our top six passing combos involved him. Kept the ball when we were under the cosh and found players well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2015 20:27:54 GMT
Wollscheid is a different type of centre half than we and the team are used to. We're used to aggressive stoppers that will step out and attack the ball. Wollscheid is your typical ball playing covering defender that will step back two yards or so and sweep up behind a more aggressive partner. Brilliant foil for Shawcross but too similar to Muniesa. Hence Whelan's frustration in the second half.
They both did well though in Shawcross' absence.
Wilson just baffles me. I haven't got a clue what he is trying to do half the time.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Jan 31, 2015 20:31:25 GMT
I like the German lad but he needs someone in there with him more experienced to help him shoutat him. Wilson was garbage. I love muni but though Zamora had him on toast today in the second half. Beardsley had one of his better games but he's dodgy as they come. If shawcross is out the replacement is huth for me
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Jan 31, 2015 20:33:07 GMT
Nzonzi is our most important player with Shawcross. He is the one player we would really struggle to replace. I think he'd fit into most the top teams
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Jan 31, 2015 20:34:14 GMT
Agree muniesa and wolf are often both trying to play thevsweeper role
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Post by Northy on Jan 31, 2015 20:39:32 GMT
Wilson - this guy had a shocker today, distribution is poor, if anything we should be getting rid of him rather than Huth Wolf - looks ok but needs to play with a leader. A lot like mertesacker. Would make a good partner for Huth in shawcross absence. Huth shoukd be retained. Muni- poor game today don't like him and wolf together at all. Happy for him to partner Huth or shawcross of play on the left in Pieters absence Bardsley - dodgy we need a new rb prefer Geoff For Newcastle I would play if shawcross is injured and Pieters is injured Lb. Muni Cb wolf Cb Huth Rb Cameron We really should be keeping Huth We conceded when Ryan was on the pitch, we didn't when he was off , not sure what you are getting at ? |
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Post by stokietony on Jan 31, 2015 20:40:02 GMT
Wollschied is Class...Muni did Ok, but Neeeded a Captain to Keep Shape :-)
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Post by chopperscfc on Jan 31, 2015 20:41:46 GMT
Could be worse we could have that QPR back 4. My mates a qpr fan and I feel so sorry for him, if I had to watch dunne every week I think I'd cry |
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Post by tonedepear on Jan 31, 2015 20:43:53 GMT
Everyone saying Huth should come back in, isn't he banned?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 31, 2015 21:00:01 GMT
Don't agree with the OP at all.
Thought the defence were good today.
Muni and Wolly were fantastic.
Wolly so far has been nothing but a class act.
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Post by stokiemarc on Jan 31, 2015 22:03:24 GMT
Everyone saying Huth should come back in, isn't he banned? Huth is not the answer. I love the big German youth but our game now is so reliant on our centre halves receiving the ball short from the keeper and that's not in his game. It wasn't in Ryan 's game But he's had a season and a half of practice now so he is incredibly comfortable on the ball but unfortunately due to Huth's injury he missed out on adding that to his game. The main reason Wilson was playing there for so long was due to his ability on the ball. It's also very apparent that this is one of the reasons we went for Wolly who is excellent on the ball. |
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