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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Jan 29, 2015 20:48:38 GMT
I miss T.P.I miss his charisma,something Hughes definitely lacks,I miss his enthusiasm, his antics in the technical area,his interviews on local radio (Naah, Nige)his connection with the local area and the great efforts he made (and still makes) for local charities in particular the Donna Louise trust. But I don't miss his football.!!
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 29, 2015 21:08:00 GMT
He'll certainly stop you being a yo yo side and you may even get to travel to exotic foreign grounds and to Wembley for a major final. If You are lucky you might get a point out of Stoke.
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 29, 2015 21:26:45 GMT
He'll certainly stop you being a yo yo side and you may even get to travel to exotic foreign grounds and to Wembley for a major final. If You are lucky you might get a point out of Stoke. And if you are really lucky he won't bottle it at the final hurdle, he will stick to solid workhorses and not spunk the best part of £100 m down the drain.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 21:55:53 GMT
Pulls was a tactical maverick and football trail blazer!
I never thought I'd see a centre back at right wing but pulis proved me wrong.
Was almost total football esque
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 29, 2015 22:00:29 GMT
Pulis has charisma?!?!?!?!!
Yeah OK then.
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Post by 2004 on Jan 29, 2015 22:02:56 GMT
A lot of hard work. A decent defence. Guarenteed Survival. Some decent signings (If given little money). Good home form.
Square pegs in round holes. Surrender in all away games. Some shocking signings. No interest in the academy. You will get bored after a while. Constant shouts of Goaaaaaarnnn Saido
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Post by viewfrominside on Jan 29, 2015 22:05:25 GMT
Didn't he get us a 13th place finish with the lowest total goals scored in the top 4 divisions or something like that? I'm sure he did and that was some fucking effort, lmao
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Post by diaoshairyballs on Jan 29, 2015 22:24:12 GMT
Tony Pulis in one word.......... Marmite. Sent from my A0001 using proboards
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Post by carruthers1on1 on Jan 29, 2015 22:43:15 GMT
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way. C. Dickens
This thread tells you all you need to know. I loved the man, but by God it was awful in the end (18 months)
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 29, 2015 23:07:27 GMT
He'll split your fanbase clean in half, and when he goes, you'll have a group of desperate fuckers who feel the need to drag his name up every bastarding day.
Oh and add zero ambition away from home, baffling team selections, rampant favouritism, patronizing speeches, bottling it if you ever get into Europe and huge transfer fees for ancient players.
However he is also a very charitable man, and I can't fault the bloke for turning up the day his mum died.
As a man, you're getting a passionate bloke, as a football manager, you're getting one of the most frustrating and divisive managers of all time.
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Post by kerouac on Jan 29, 2015 23:17:59 GMT
I loved him,I hated him.There were moments of pure joy but mainly despair. He got us to heaven but didn't know how to let us enjoy the rewards. I hated watching us play in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 23:18:18 GMT
Here is what he won't be bringing. Crouch and Glen! :-)
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Post by blackpoolred on Jan 29, 2015 23:23:44 GMT
Sorry to see the Bojan news, seems a likeable guy and couldn't of happened at a worse time for him with the football he had been playing. Also seen a suggestion of Sinclair on this board. From what we saw of him last year you would be better bringing Trevor Sinclair out of retirement. One of the most disappointing signings we have made in along time, offered absolutely nothing and barely made the squad let alone starting 11 for the second half of the season. By all accounts just couldn't be bothered any more. Anyway, Pulis is already splitting a lot of us fans. Nobody really doubts that when it comes to purely keeping us up this year he was the best option available so I'm not looking for input on the results side of his management, but there's a few other things that I assume you guys will know about him more than anyone else. Is his style as bad as is made out? Honestly, without wishing to cause offence, I'm one of those you could probably label in the rather 'rather get relegated that watch that every week' camp. I have no problem with what he did with you in your first season or 2 in the PL, and if someone had done that with us when we first came up I would have felt the same. But after the novelty of being in the PL wore off did the football remain as bad to watch? Will he ever look to progress a team? Again one of the main arguments is that ideally Pulis will come in, keep us up by any means and then progress us in the summer to a better style of play. I never saw any of this at Stoke (feel free to correct me) and your results, points tally's, finishing positions, goals score etc all seems to suggest things stayed pretty much the same. How good/bad is his transfer record? When we had Dan Ashworth in charge our transfer policy was probably the main reason for our success. Since he left for the FA our record has been appalling so in this regard it can't get much worse I suppose. I think the set up now is probably similar to yours when Pulis was there, with a Director of Football in similar in place (did you guys have Rudge in that role?) but in reality Pulis calls the shots. I know every manager has good/bad signings and Pulis seems to have done much better with his lower cost buys than his big money deals. In short if Pulis came back to Stoke woudl you rather him or a DoF or similar in charge of bringing players in? Will we end up with 4 centre backs in defence? We've already seen Lescott shifted to left back last week and another CB bought in. Wisdom supposedly is a centre back although he always played right back or Liverpool and has played there all season for us for I'll let that slide for now. I seem to remember you guys crying out for proper full backs for a few years and not getting them. Pocognoli was one of our few decent summer signings and in many fans views was one of our better players before Christmas. Since Pulis came in he cant get a look in either in league or cup games with Lescott and Chris Baird preffered instead of him. Can we expect more of this? Will he sign/trust foreign players? Or at least foreign players who come from abroad, rather than someone who had already been playing in the PL for a few years. There's a view that he's come in and without even looking like players like Varela, Blanco, Gamboa, Pocognoli has decided they dont fit. You could argue he went with the previous coaching teams views on them but they left as well so I would assume everyone had a blank slate. All the players we have been linked with are either British or have played in the PL before. Is there much point in his having a foreign scouting department with Pulis here? Did Pulis 'throw' away games against certain sides? His record against the traditional top sides seemed acceptable at home, although mainly down to the points taken off Arsenal. However for a manager/side famed for making things so difficult for sides your away record from what I can see was (and again, no offence) woeful. Now most managers will naturally have a poor record away at the big 4 but his seems particularly bad with a team that normally keeps things so tight regularly shipping 3+ goals a game. Is it a case that his style simply didn't work against those sides away from home and he refused to try to adapt it, or was there a feeling amongst you guys he didn't believe his sides could win these games? Good luck for the season, from an ironic point of view it would be pretty funny to see you come to the Hawthorns, dominate possession and then us score from a set piece. It seems a decent number of our fans (although not all) now reckon they always rated Pulis and never liked Mowbrays tippy tappy stuff in the first place :-) Albion 1 is not a very novel name? 7 posts to your name also? very astute and knowledgable questions about Pulis? and also seen a suggestion of Sinclair on this board - on here a lot are we? You reek of a PHW trying to provoke another tedious debate Come on admit that you are a Stokie in disguise
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Post by tijuanabrass on Jan 30, 2015 10:23:41 GMT
I believe that Peter Coates is the only Chairman/owner that he hasn't fallen out with. He has favourites in the squad that can seemingly do no wrong and will be picked no matter what their performance. What goes on in the dressing room should stay there. Wo betide the upstart who flaunts this rule on social media. He will identify supporter favourites and for reasons known to himself either drop them or play them hopelessly out of position. He has a working man's ethics and believes his players should put in a day's graft for a day's pay. In a crowd of 25- 30k, his will be the voice that rises above all others from the touch line. When he first came here we had Gillingham and Plymouth fans on here mocking us and predicting schisms within the fanbase. I thought he was great for our club and I'm glad to see that the media treat him with the respect he deserves. That said, I''m happy of the direction we've taken since he left.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jan 30, 2015 10:30:09 GMT
I loved him,I hated him.There were moments of pure joy but mainly despair. He got us to heaven but didn't know how to let us enjoy the rewards. I hated watching us play in the end. He got us to heaven with a thousand virgins then cut our dick off!
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Post by devondumpling on Jan 30, 2015 10:56:28 GMT
Well albion 1 should be congratulated on his fishing abilities. It must be a Stoke supporter on the wind up. Knows far too many points, to be a baggie fan.
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Jan 30, 2015 11:08:53 GMT
Pulis has charisma?!?!?!?!! Yeah OK then. Glad you agree
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Post by albion1 on Jan 30, 2015 11:40:54 GMT
Thanks for the info provided. As I said earlier I was probably hoping for the responses to be a bit more positive towards his style. I gave him a free pass for the Everton game as it was his first away match but judging the match in isolation it was the first time I can honestly say I was embarrassed by our performance. Playing against the side with one of the worst defences in the league I didn't expect us to go all out attack but a shot on target would of been nice. Instead we had Berahino (whose pace in behind would have caused Jagielka problems) deployed as a defensive left sided midfielder tasked solely with marking Coleman. Reading this I get the impression I can expect plenty more of that in he future.
His ability to keep us has never really been in doubt, but theres huge question marks about what happens after this season. My worry is Peace has seen what a manager like Hodgson can do by pretty much securing PL football, and has seen with managers like Clarke, Mel, Irvine it becomes less of a banker. He has to potect his investment and I doubt really cares about the style we do it in, and in fairness I cant blame him for that. If we went down playing Mowbray style football now he would be slated anyway. So the concern is he see's Pulis guaranteeing 14th place each year and sticks long term rather than looking for a short term fix.
The other, perhaps more likely option, is they fall out inevitably at some point. You say Coates is the only chairman Pulis hasn't fallen out with, well Hodgson is the only one Peace didn't fall out with. But Peace has already given Pulis more than he's given anyone else in recent times in terms of control and influence so perhaps he's willing to keep Pulis happy in return for survival each year.
Thanks again for the info provided, very interesting read. If anyone is still looking to share can anyone tell me what Kemp and Francis will bring to the party? The first time in a long while we haven't had the same backroom staff of Kiely & Downing (who were probably more unpopular than Irvine by the end)
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 30, 2015 12:12:30 GMT
Thanks for the info provided. As I said earlier I was probably hoping for the responses to be a bit more positive towards his style. I gave him a free pass for the Everton game as it was his first away match but judging the match in isolation it was the first time I can honestly say I was embarrassed by our performance. Playing against the side with one of the worst defences in the league I didn't expect us to go all out attack but a shot on target would of been nice. Instead we had Berahino (whose pace in behind would have caused Jagielka problems) deployed as a defensive left sided midfielder tasked solely with marking Coleman. Reading this I get the impression I can expect plenty more of that in he future. His ability to keep us has never really been in doubt, but theres huge question marks about what happens after this season. My worry is Peace has seen what a manager like Hodgson can do by pretty much securing PL football, and has seen with managers like Clarke, Mel, Irvine it becomes less of a banker. He has to potect his investment and I doubt really cares about the style we do it in, and in fairness I cant blame him for that. If we went down playing Mowbray style football now he would be slated anyway. So the concern is he see's Pulis guaranteeing 14th place each year and sticks long term rather than looking for a short term fix. The other, perhaps more likely option, is they fall out inevitably at some point. You say Coates is the only chairman Pulis hasn't fallen out with, well Hodgson is the only one Peace didn't fall out with. But Peace has already given Pulis more than he's given anyone else in recent times in terms of control and influence so perhaps he's willing to keep Pulis happy in return for survival each year. Thanks again for the info provided, very interesting read. If anyone is still looking to share can anyone tell me what Kemp and Francis will bring to the party? The first time in a long while we haven't had the same backroom staff of Kiely & Downing (who were probably more unpopular than Irvine by the end) I cant believe how politely you write....theres not one 'shit', bollocks' fuck' in ANY of your posts albion1 = William Shakespeare oatcake posters = The Macc Lads
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 30, 2015 12:16:18 GMT
Dave Kemp.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 30, 2015 12:29:56 GMT
Kemp is most the brown nosing sycophantic YES man ive ever seen in the football world. He also brings out the worst in Pulis because hes gives him the affirmation that playing Ryan Shotton up front is a good idea.
I never worked out what Francis actually does
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Post by slpmarc on Jan 30, 2015 12:35:16 GMT
Kemp is most the brown nosing sycophantic YES man ive ever seen in the football world. He also brings out the worst in Pulis because hes gives him the affirmation that playing Ryan Shotton up front is a good idea. I never worked out what Francis actually does Francis tells TP which tracksuit to wear
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Post by Davef on Jan 30, 2015 12:40:35 GMT
Kemp is most the brown nosing sycophantic YES man ive ever seen in the football world. He also brings out the worst in Pulis because hes gives him the affirmation that playing Ryan Shotton up front is a good idea. I never worked out what Francis actually does Remember Kemp's comment before our game at Palace last season? "I hear they're playing like Barcelona now". Classless twerp. I don't doubt Tony Pulis maybe shares that kind of opinion of Stoke as well, but at least he has the decency/sense not to come out with stuff like that.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 30, 2015 12:41:17 GMT
Pulis will ruin your football club Albion. I mean look at us, I can't sleep at night wondering whether we will ever get back to what we were before he came and took us on this decade long spiral into misery and failure.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Jan 30, 2015 13:06:13 GMT
Pulis will ruin your football club Albion. I mean look at us, I can't sleep at night wondering whether we will ever get back to what we were before he came and took us on this decade long spiral into misery and failure. Has Jeremy Peace got bet365 style wonga?
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Post by albion1 on Jan 30, 2015 13:15:38 GMT
Pulis will ruin your football club Albion. I mean look at us, I can't sleep at night wondering whether we will ever get back to what we were before he came and took us on this decade long spiral into misery and failure. Has Jeremy Peace got bet365 style wonga? No. I'm a big fan of Peace personally but he is probably our equivalent of Pulis in that he divides the fan base pretty much down the middle. But he hasn't put any of his own money and if Pulis think's he will get a 'war chest' to spend each window he's going to find out pretty soon how lucky he was to have Coates backing. Before this window I can't remember the last time we paid money for a player in January, let alone a half decent fee and certainly not the £4.75m Pulis spent on Mcmanaman. I do wonder is Peace is advancing Pulis some of the money he had put aside for next summers window to spend in January, and if Pulis is expecting another £15m in the summer
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Post by 2004 on Jan 30, 2015 13:22:19 GMT
Dave Kemp will bring some "lively" and "inventive" training sessions.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Jan 30, 2015 13:27:00 GMT
A pigs head,
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Post by lordb on Jan 30, 2015 13:31:28 GMT
Has Jeremy Peace got bet365 style wonga? No. I'm a big fan of Peace personally but he is probably our equivalent of Pulis in that he divides the fan base pretty much down the middle. But he hasn't put any of his own money and if Pulis think's he will get a 'war chest' to spend each window he's going to find out pretty soon how lucky he was to have Coates backing. Before this window I can't remember the last time we paid money for a player in January, let alone a half decent fee and certainly not the £4.75m Pulis spent on Mcmanaman. I do wonder is Peace is advancing Pulis some of the money he had put aside for next summers window to spend in January, and if Pulis is expecting another £15m in the summer No need to wonder. That's exactly what is happening be fascinating to see what happens next August
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 30, 2015 13:32:03 GMT
Pulis will ruin your football club Albion. I mean look at us, I can't sleep at night wondering whether we will ever get back to what we were before he came and took us on this decade long spiral into misery and failure. Has Jeremy Peace got bet365 style wonga? Similar wage bills?
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