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Post by Northy on Jan 29, 2015 15:09:02 GMT
Yes, we had a similar thread about them last season for these cup tickets if I recall, so it's not the first time they've winged |
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Post by adamsson on Jan 29, 2015 15:21:31 GMT
As long as Cambridge win who cares!
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Post by metalhead on Jan 29, 2015 15:21:44 GMT
I find it quite sad that people on here want to side with a massive corporation that's quite blatantly shitting on ordinary folk like themselves. This is a story about football fans, with ordinary jobs and ordinary incomes, who are getting ripped off by billionaires. I don't care which club the situation applies to- that is fucking wank. this ffs. There's no humour to be had from this. It's the sign of another football club turning into an American corporation. We should count ourselves lucky instead of laughing at them |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 16:10:52 GMT
Entirely unenforceable contract term, and suspending them for the next game would mean that the club themselves are in breach of contract.
Accepting a contract with damage clauses does not automatically mean they are enforceable and accepted
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Post by 2004 on Jan 29, 2015 16:20:35 GMT
Shame
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Post by Roy Cropper on Jan 29, 2015 16:21:55 GMT
I'd usually care, but if you choose to support a corporate, money making conglomerate as a football club then expect to be treated as a customer not a football fan.
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Post by burberrybassist on Jan 29, 2015 16:29:05 GMT
Shouldn't be enforced on the cheapest Season Tickets as there are still a massive % of United fans born and bred in Manchester/Salford who won't have the cash to spare to turn up to every cup game
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jan 29, 2015 16:30:14 GMT
One for the FSF to comment on! It's appalling. I think Trouserdog and metalhead have got it spot on. This is the supporters of one of our clubs being abused by foreign owners who are in it for their own greed. The FSF fully supported the Man U fans when they took it to the OFT who unfortunately ruled that it is legal. I think it's a pity that some of our fans see it only in terms of their dislike for that club rather than the wider issues. What we have in common as supporters far outweighs, or should do, inter-club rivalries and not recognising that makes it far easier for the bad guys to win. You wouldn't apply the "well they signed up for it" argument, if we were taken over by owners who did the same thing to us. |
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Post by sage on Jan 29, 2015 16:45:47 GMT
Fuck the Shit, but seriously that is absolutely ludicrous. Pay hundreds for a season ticket then be told you'll be denied what you've legally bought and paid for unless you buy this other thing you might not want? If it was some high street store doing the same thing it'd be all over the news and Trading Standards would come down on them like a ton of bricks.
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Post by enuntio on Jan 29, 2015 16:46:17 GMT
It's not only Man U that have that stupid rule. Every hone cup game requires a ticket to be bought, European cup competitions included
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Post by turtlefox on Jan 29, 2015 17:16:50 GMT
Manu have had this policy for years though. It's one of the reasons why Mancs I know don't bother anymore. Being banned for not giving more cash their way, no matter what the reason,is totally disrespectful to the fans...there turning into the Catholic church. Pay or be frowned upon.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 29, 2015 17:20:32 GMT
One for the FSF to comment on! It's appalling. I think Trouserdog and metalhead have got it spot on. This is the supporters of one of our clubs being abused by foreign owners who are in it for their own greed. The FSF fully supported the Man U fans when they took it to the OFT who unfortunately ruled that it is legal. I think it's a pity that some of our fans see it only in terms of their dislike for that club rather than the wider issues. What we have in common as supporters far outweighs, or should do, inter-club rivalries and not recognising that makes it far easier for the bad guys to win. You wouldn't apply the "well they signed up for it" argument, if we were taken over by owners who did the same thing to us. No because I wouldn't sign up for it. |
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 29, 2015 17:33:57 GMT
Does anyone know how much a season ticket is for the Shit? 3777.69 Yuan H  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 17:43:57 GMT
Manc PR at its best
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Post by stokemanusa on Jan 29, 2015 17:47:02 GMT
Fuck the Shit, but seriously that is absolutely ludicrous. Pay hundreds for a season ticket then be told you'll be denied what you've legally bought and paid for unless you buy this other thing you might not want? If it was some high street store doing the same thing it'd be all over the news and Trading Standards would come down on them like a ton of bricks. They have a prestige to uphold and all that bullshit... The fans, the club and now the players see the sinking ship that plastic club is... It's only a matter of time. |
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jan 29, 2015 18:03:12 GMT
It's appalling. I think Trouserdog and metalhead have got it spot on. This is the supporters of one of our clubs being abused by foreign owners who are in it for their own greed. The FSF fully supported the Man U fans when they took it to the OFT who unfortunately ruled that it is legal. I think it's a pity that some of our fans see it only in terms of their dislike for that club rather than the wider issues. What we have in common as supporters far outweighs, or should do, inter-club rivalries and not recognising that makes it far easier for the bad guys to win. You wouldn't apply the "well they signed up for it" argument, if we were taken over by owners who did the same thing to us. No because I wouldn't sign up for it. If I refused to buy a season ticket because I didn't want to buy the cup tickets it would be me that suffered. So I would sign up for it. Doesn't make it right though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 18:05:04 GMT
One for the FSF to comment on! It's appalling. I think Trouserdog and metalhead have got it spot on. This is the supporters of one of our clubs being abused by foreign owners who are in it for their own greed. The FSF fully supported the Man U fans when they took it to the OFT who unfortunately ruled that it is legal. I think it's a pity that some of our fans see it only in terms of their dislike for that club rather than the wider issues. What we have in common as supporters far outweighs, or should do, inter-club rivalries and not recognising that makes it far easier for the bad guys to win. You wouldn't apply the "well they signed up for it" argument, if we were taken over by owners who did the same thing to us. Just out of interest, on what basis was it contested Malcolm? |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jan 29, 2015 19:29:50 GMT
It's appalling. I think Trouserdog and metalhead have got it spot on. This is the supporters of one of our clubs being abused by foreign owners who are in it for their own greed. The FSF fully supported the Man U fans when they took it to the OFT who unfortunately ruled that it is legal. I think it's a pity that some of our fans see it only in terms of their dislike for that club rather than the wider issues. What we have in common as supporters far outweighs, or should do, inter-club rivalries and not recognising that makes it far easier for the bad guys to win. You wouldn't apply the "well they signed up for it" argument, if we were taken over by owners who did the same thing to us. Just out of interest, on what basis was it contested Malcolm? I'm not actually up to speed on the legal arguments used, Bojan, but I'll find out or ask someone from MUST to post on here |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 29, 2015 19:47:31 GMT
Just to play Devils advocate a little bit and taking the cost of tickets out of the equataion, if the roles were reversed I would buy a season ticket that saw me committing to attend every cup game as well because I support Stoke City and attend every home game. On the rare occasion that I can't make it, I will give my ticket away to a Stoke Supporter who can't always attend every game.
I bet these Manure fans wouldn't be complaining if they were being forced to buy a ticket for the Cup Final itself?
Is it simply a case that these glory hunting wankers don't see any glory in attending a game against little old Cambridge United? A club most of these tossers had probably never even heard of before their game last Friday night.
If you hop into bed with the Devil and all that....!
I have sympathy for every loyal and true football fan who is hard done regardless of their allegiences but in this instance, isn't it a bit hypocritical of these Manure fans. They most likely thought it was great when it guaranteed them first dibs on tickets v Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Juventus etc but I guess it isn't quite so attractive when your team turns to shit and a replay against Cambridge becomes an important game to your club.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 19:49:44 GMT
Just out of interest, on what basis was it contested Malcolm? I'm not actually up to speed on the legal arguments used, Bojan, but I'll find out or ask someone from MUST to post on here Cheers Malcolm. It'll be quite interesting to see how it was presented, whether it was a 'bunch of football fans moaning' or whether it was a structured rejection of an unfair contract term. It shouldn't matter one bit, but the way that its presented can make so much difference |
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jan 29, 2015 22:04:38 GMT
I'm not actually up to speed on the legal arguments used, Bojan, but I'll find out or ask someone from MUST to post on here Cheers Malcolm. It'll be quite interesting to see how it was presented, whether it was a 'bunch of football fans moaning' or whether it was a structured rejection of an unfair contract term. It shouldn't matter one bit, but the way that its presented can make so much difference Our experience of MUST ( Man Utd Supporters Trust) is that they tend to be just about as professional a group of fans as you'll find. The Chair is a prominent London lawyer and they have plenty of professional experts of various kinds in their membership, so I would expect it to be properly presented. |
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Post by hartzchoco on Jan 29, 2015 22:40:10 GMT
I find it quite sad that people on here want to side with a massive corporation that's quite blatantly shitting on ordinary folk like themselves. This is a story about football fans, with ordinary jobs and ordinary incomes, who are getting ripped off by billionaires. I don't care which club the situation applies to- that is fucking wank. this ffs. There's no humour to be had from this. It's the sign of another football club turning into an American corporation. We should count ourselves lucky instead of laughing at them Can we count ourselves lucky AND laugh at them? |
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Post by sage on Jan 30, 2015 8:55:52 GMT
Fuck the Shit, but seriously that is absolutely ludicrous. Pay hundreds for a season ticket then be told you'll be denied what you've legally bought and paid for unless you buy this other thing you might not want? If it was some high street store doing the same thing it'd be all over the news and Trading Standards would come down on them like a ton of bricks. They have a prestige to uphold and all that bullshit... The fans, the club and now the players see the sinking ship that plastic club is... It's only a matter of time. We can only hope!! |
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 30, 2015 9:22:59 GMT
Don't they have different types of ST's? One you buy that guarantees your seat for Cup games, which you HAVE to purchase, and another without Cup games.
I can't see the issue to be honest.
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Post by heisenberg88 on Jan 30, 2015 9:23:17 GMT
Dress it up all you like just because it's Man Utd. It's a wank scheme that is designed to rip people off and it's nothing short of a scandal
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Post by Stokie Mcpot on Jan 30, 2015 10:02:25 GMT
Surely they must realise that not everybody now's whether they're going to be busy on cup matches, especially when the dates aren't announced directly. Who then would pay for a ticket to a match they can't attend?
It's clear United just aren't in touch with reality. and let's be honest, its not like they're even that good a team these days, surely they can't make such demands while providing comparably shit entertainment to their past endeavours.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 30, 2015 10:06:38 GMT
I wonder why this story didn't come out when tickets for European games are issued?
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Jan 30, 2015 10:10:58 GMT
Is there not some kind of Opt Out system?
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Jan 30, 2015 10:21:36 GMT
Is there not some kind of Opt Out system? Not sure. My mate has a season ticket at old Trafford and for years he has automatically been sent and charged for any tickets that are not league games. This is not a new thing and he has alway accepted it as these are the terms he agreed to. He just sells the games he doesn't want to/can't get to but the problem here is that this isn't a glamour game and nobody wants the tickets. Tough shit I say. |
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Post by enuntio on Jan 30, 2015 10:39:17 GMT
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