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Post by arniepieinthesky on Jan 28, 2015 8:31:16 GMT
According to many articles Bojan has made his impact for Stoke City in a ‘short’ time, ‘short’ this ‘short’ that, it’s such as shame to lose him after such a short amount of time…
So…
He’s made 16 league apps for Stoke so far this season, we have 16 league games left this season
So…
If he has a successful recovery and returns to the side by the start of next season, he’s would miss just 16 league games…
So…
‘Short’ term injury right?...Right?.....RIGHT?
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Post by f1rew0rks on Jan 28, 2015 8:33:15 GMT
He's going to be missed, but no more than Odemwingie was missed. We will get by, and we will be fine.
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Post by jeycov on Jan 28, 2015 8:38:04 GMT
The psychological effect on Bojan will also need careful management and I have confidence that the club will give him all the support that they can both here and back in Spain. He's 2 days nearer to his return since the injury
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Post by 2004 on Jan 28, 2015 8:38:54 GMT
He's going to be missed, but no more than Odemwingie was missed. We will get by, and we will be fine. Agree. It is a huge blow but we can win games without him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 9:36:17 GMT
Heroin and prostitution
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Post by wickerman on Jan 28, 2015 9:43:57 GMT
He's going to be missed, but no more than Odemwingie was missed. We will get by, and we will be fine. Spot on.
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Post by riccileaks on Jan 28, 2015 9:46:24 GMT
It seems as though this sort of injury could have happened anytime, so it's lucky it's happened just in time to be ready for pre season!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 9:53:42 GMT
It seems as though this sort of injury could have happened anytime, so it's lucky it's happened just in time to be ready for pre season! I agree with this. However injuries have killed us this season and its difficult not to think what might have been. Imagine a front four of Moses, Bojan, Diouf and Wingie.....! Now that would have been special. We move on though and lets go on and win The FA cup, we still have a very good chance.
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Post by Gods on Jan 28, 2015 9:53:45 GMT
Has the Consultant considering Bojan's case said he should be back for the start of next season?
6-9 months seems to be par but in some instances I read the damage is permanent and can either compromise or end a career.
So there must be gradations of ACL rupture. They are not all the same severity right? I guess my question is if you must have an ACL rupture then do we know if this is of the kind of severity and nature you do want or the kind which would strike terror in to your heart?
As for coping I just have a hollow, numb feeling in the pit of my stomach and am seeking solace in strong liquor as I await the healing hands of time.
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Post by DannyStokie on Jan 28, 2015 10:11:05 GMT
Has the Consultant considering Bojan's case said he should be back for the start of next season? 6-9 months seems to be par but in some instances it seems the damage is permanent and can either compromise or end a career. So there must be gradations of ACL rupture. They are not all the same severity right? I guess my question is if you must have an ACL rupture then do we know if this is of the kind of severity and nature you do want or the kind which would strike terror in to your heart? As for coping I just have a hollow, numb feeling in the pit of my stomach and am seeking solace in strong liquor. Most make a full recovery, especially helps when you can afford the best surgeons around.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 28, 2015 10:18:02 GMT
Yes Gods there is different severities with different operations so it does depend.
Again using my own experience I completely tore my ACL. The operation to fix it was to use a tendon in my calf and attach that to work the same way. The op failed due to having a shit surgeon BUT even if it had worked properly then it would still not as been as good as new. The new tendon was like using an artifical replacement but it is generally tougher and not as supple as the original.
But thats not needed in all cases. If he hasnt completely ruptured it then it can be repaired and its more likely lead to a full recovery.
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Post by salopstick on Jan 28, 2015 10:19:45 GMT
We need a bojan sub board
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Post by Gods on Jan 28, 2015 10:30:34 GMT
Yes Gods there is different severities with different operations so it does depend. Again using my own experience I completely tore my ACL. The operation to fix it was to use a tendon in my calf and attach that to work the same way. The op failed due to having a shit surgeon BUT even if it had worked properly then it would still not as been as good as new. The new tendon was like using an artifical replacement but it is generally tougher and not as supple as the original. But thats not needed in all cases. If he hasnt completely ruptured it then it can be repaired and its more likely lead to a full recovery. mmm...we have absolutely no medical detail at all do we? Just the word 'rupture'. Were you straight in for your Op. or do they first wait for the swelling to go down in order to make a proper assessment? I must admit I am no medic but it took me while watching BT Sport all of about 3.5 seconds after the incident to work out this was serious shit
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 28, 2015 10:32:00 GMT
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 28, 2015 10:36:30 GMT
It seems as though this sort of injury could have happened anytime, so it's lucky it's happened just in time to be ready for pre season! I agree with this. However injuries have killed us this season and its difficult not to think what might have been. Imagine a front four of Moses, Bojan, Diouf and Wingie.....! Now that would have been special. We move on though and lets go on and win The FA cup, we still have a very good chance. Yes and imagine if there had not been 11 dropped points against Villa, Burnley, Leicester, and QPR (twice lost the lead). I still think we can nudge ahead of Swansea without Bony.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 28, 2015 10:38:33 GMT
Think of Kylie.....
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jan 28, 2015 10:44:57 GMT
Yes Gods there is different severities with different operations so it does depend. Again using my own experience I completely tore my ACL. The operation to fix it was to use a tendon in my calf and attach that to work the same way. The op failed due to having a shit surgeon BUT even if it had worked properly then it would still not as been as good as new. The new tendon was like using an artifical replacement but it is generally tougher and not as supple as the original. But thats not needed in all cases. If he hasnt completely ruptured it then it can be repaired and its more likely lead to a full recovery. mmm...we have absolutely no medical detail at all do we? Just the word 'rupture'. Were you straight in for your Op. or do they first wait for the swelling to go down in order to make a proper assessment? I must admit I am no medic but it took me while watching BT Sport all of about 3.5 seconds after the incident to work out this was serious shit yes they cant do the Op until the swelling has gone down so will probably be in a couple of weeks. Then walking on crutches for about a month and generally resting. Then the rehab work starts. The problem is that all other muscles get weaker during that time so you need to build them back up slowly. Plus if a new tendon is attached it can affect your whole balance and you almost need to re-learn how to walk in a straight line. The quality of the rehab work is massively important. I think thats why Odemwimgie could be coming back earlier than planned. I can definitely see Bojan back for the start of next season at close to 100%
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Post by foster on Jan 28, 2015 10:48:18 GMT
So we've done shock, denial, depression, hope and now optimism. In 2 days we'll be going for the league title.
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Post by arniepieinthesky on Jan 28, 2015 10:54:35 GMT
I have no fear in regards to our season so to speak, we have the squad to cope, however, the gut wrenching disappointment is the joy that I got watching somebody of Bojan’s ability in a Stoke shirt, a player of his ability is the kind of player that takes your club forwards. He seemed to be buying into what this club is about, he was just hitting that ‘happy’ phase, you could see it in the way he expressed himself on the pitch, his work rate.
Its key now is that the management team not only handle his injury but also the mental aspect of this, he looks like the kind of player that could let his head drop – he needs to focus on his rehabilitation because he’s a massive part of our long term goal and progression.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 28, 2015 11:00:07 GMT
Tried lying down in a dark room and screaming but it hasn't worked.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 12:23:52 GMT
Yesterday I shot up first and then went out on the street; I'll try different combinations until I find the least numbing
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Post by Gods on Jan 28, 2015 12:58:26 GMT
mmm...we have absolutely no medical detail at all do we? Just the word 'rupture'. Were you straight in for your Op. or do they first wait for the swelling to go down in order to make a proper assessment? I must admit I am no medic but it took me while watching BT Sport all of about 3.5 seconds after the incident to work out this was serious shit yes they cant do the Op until the swelling has gone down so will probably be in a couple of weeks. Then walking on crutches for about a month and generally resting. Then the rehab work starts. The problem is that all other muscles get weaker during that time so you need to build them back up slowly. Plus if a new tendon is attached it can affect your whole balance and you almost need to re-learn how to walk in a straight line. The quality of the rehab work is massively important. I think thats why Odemwimgie could be coming back earlier than planned. I can definitely see Bojan back for the start of next season at close to 100% Strange thing the human body, you know they say make sure you have some decent muscle to support your joints? Well if you check this out you can see the wonder-waif is not lacking that department And yet a rupture occurred on contact with nothing more than grass and earth, I guess it has everything to do with angles and catastrophe theory in the end
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Post by hartzchoco on Jan 28, 2015 20:16:33 GMT
So we've done shock, denial, depression, hope and now optimism. In 2 days we'll be going for the league title. That one made me spit coffee.
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Post by manumasochist on Jan 28, 2015 20:39:19 GMT
According to many articles Bojan has made his impact for Stoke City in a ‘short’ time, ‘short’ this ‘short’ that, it’s such as shame to lose him after such a short amount of time… So… He’s made 16 league apps for Stoke so far this season, we have 16 league games left this season So… If he has a successful recovery and returns to the side by the start of next season, he’s would miss just 16 league games… So… ‘Short’ term injury right?...Right?.....RIGHT? It seems you're dealing with the loss of Bojan, in the same way most on here appear to: -
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 20:44:03 GMT
I'm unclear on this.
Does the OP suggest that Bojan require help, or the supporters?
If the latter - it's a sad world.
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 28, 2015 20:53:34 GMT
Just like when your puppy dies... it's very sad, but what makes it all better? Buy a new puppy. Who can be our new puppy.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 28, 2015 21:44:02 GMT
Man the fuck up and get on with it. No excuses.
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Post by Northy on Jan 28, 2015 21:51:55 GMT
I do everyday, my daughter bought me her 2015 calendar fir Xmas, it's on the wall in the office at home :-P
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Post by stokie25 on Jan 28, 2015 21:54:03 GMT
Man the fuck up and get on with it. No excuses. You're a hard bastard bayern! Don't tell me that a part of you isn't crushed
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Post by nik80 on Jan 28, 2015 21:56:38 GMT
According to many articles Bojan has made his impact for Stoke City in a ‘short’ time, ‘short’ this ‘short’ that, it’s such as shame to lose him after such a short amount of time… So… He’s made 16 league apps for Stoke so far this season, we have 16 league games left this season So… If he has a successful recovery and returns to the side by the start of next season, he’s would miss just 16 league games… So… ‘Short’ term injury right?...Right?.....RIGHT? It's very unlikely he will be fit to feature in pre season though, which means he doesn't get the conditioning he will need. I can't see him fit for the start of the season myself unfortunately. You can't wrap players in cotton wool admittedly but did we really need him to play vs Rochdale? Stephen Ireland and Charlie need games too. Gutted.
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