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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 27, 2015 19:12:46 GMT
Thankfully our league status looks pretty much secured but there can be no doubt we need to act before the window closes.
Prior to Bojan's devastating injury we probably needed striker and a winger but you have to wonder whether MH will sacrifice one of those two in order to fill the void left by the little magician's absence.
I suppose a lot depends on the faith Hughes has in the likes of Ireland, Charlie and Jon to potentially cover that position.
Realistically Ireland could do it to a degree but can we count on his fitness week in week out?
Charlie brings something different with his drive and shooting ability but his lack of mobility and the fact that the manager hasn't used him much lately suggests he still might not feature.
Then there's Jon who has been a revelation under Hughes. His energy, endeavour and quality have been superb so far but mostly from the wide forward role. Hopefully Arnie's return to form could mean JW would be able to move inside on a more permanent basis without causing too many headaches assuming we get a new forward.
Hopefully the board will give the gaffer the support he has earned and richly deserves. His astute and tactically excellent management as well as his eye for a bargain, must surely mean he should be trusted to go out and if necessary spend big (in Stoke terms).
If ever this was going to happen at least the timing of it gives us a few days to try and address the situation.
Time to back your man Mr Coates, he deserves it and the team needs it, especially if you want a real crack at the F.A. Cup this year.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 19:18:28 GMT
We need a big player to give everyone a lift. Not necessarily in Bojan's position but something to gee everyone up for the last half of the season. Manager, staff, player's and fans. Be it a flying winger, forward or driving midfielder.
I hope the upper echelons of the club realise just what a blow this is and how down everyone is right now, and how it potentially could wreck the season.
Forget all of this coy "right player at the right price" bollocks. Get out there in the market and do it. Statement of intent to drag everyone along.
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Post by stantheman on Jan 27, 2015 22:49:00 GMT
Bowen spoke well on the radio tonight and really sounded devastated about Bojan.
He said that the possibility of the 2 x Barca players coming in before the end of the window would be fairly unlikely.
I haven't felt this fed up in a long time.
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Post by mywaydesolzan on Jan 28, 2015 3:03:57 GMT
We need a big player to give everyone a lift. Not necessarily in Bojan's position but something to gee everyone up for the last half of the season. Manager, staff, player's and fans. Be it a flying winger, forward or driving midfielder. I hope the upper echelons of the club realise just what a blow this is and how down everyone is right now, and how it potentially could wreck the season. Forget all of this coy "right player at the right price" bollocks. Get out there in the market and do it. Statement of intent to drag everyone along. Get a grip.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 5:39:53 GMT
We need a big player to give everyone a lift. Not necessarily in Bojan's position but something to gee everyone up for the last half of the season. Manager, staff, player's and fans. Be it a flying winger, forward or driving midfielder. I hope the upper echelons of the club realise just what a blow this is and how down everyone is right now, and how it potentially could wreck the season. Forget all of this coy "right player at the right price" bollocks. Get out there in the market and do it. Statement of intent to drag everyone along. Get a grip. Need signings.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 6:14:57 GMT
Panic buying is rarely the solution
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Post by foster on Jan 28, 2015 6:47:15 GMT
Panic buying is rarely the solution Not so sure its panic buying. More like spending a bit more than originally planned.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 28, 2015 7:36:41 GMT
Panic buying is rarely the solution Not so sure its panic buying. More like spending a bit more than originally planned. Indeed. We knew and the manager knew that a player or two were needed. It's now even more imperative.
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Post by trigger on Jan 28, 2015 8:07:02 GMT
Still miserable as sin this morning as I was told at work yesterday the little man was out for three weeks max, nearly died when TS reported he'd be out for the remainder of the season.
I'm at a loss when it comes to transfers as surely we must now to start to back Hughes with serious funding, the loaning of players is acceptable to a certain extent but if we're looking at Hughes's long term future surely the players he wants should be permanent so he knows exactly what he's managing on a day to day basis.
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Post by 2004 on Jan 28, 2015 8:42:30 GMT
We don't despetately need new signings
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Post by Scrotnig on Jan 28, 2015 9:08:22 GMT
I like Bojan, he's a star, but the panic over his injury on here is a bit ridiculous. It's not that long ago since I was reading numerous posts about what a pointless signing he was and that he wasn't living up to his potential. Now all of a sudden you'd think his injury had just got us relegated.
He's just one player, he hasn't got our current league position on his own, there is a whole squad with him, all of whom are still playing.
He is a good player, he's not yet hit "great" or "exceptional". I'm not knocking him I think we're in danger of getting carried away. Are we so "small time" that one injury wipes out the club and we'll be playing in the Alsager & District Sunday League next season? No!
After so many successful years in the Premiership, as fans we need to stop sounding like Walsall or West Brom! We're much bigger and better than this. Or perhaps we're not, maybe I'm wrong and we really ARE just a small time club having a handful of good seasons but with no depth or quality in the squad. I'd like to think not after all my years following the club, but who knows?
Short version: Even if we buy nobody, we are absolutely fine.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 28, 2015 9:13:34 GMT
We don't despetately need new signings Depends on your point of view. If you want to stumble through the rest of the season and not pull up any trees then you're right. If you are looking at us having a really good season, I'd humbly suggest that you're wrong.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2015 9:14:56 GMT
Thankfully our league status looks pretty much secured but there can be no doubt we need to act before the window closes. Prior to Bojan's devastating injury we probably needed striker and a winger but you have to wonder whether MH will sacrifice one of those two in order to fill the void left by the little magician's absence. I suppose a lot depends on the faith Hughes has in the likes of Ireland, Charlie and Jon to potentially cover that position. Realistically Ireland could do it to a degree but can we count on his fitness week in week out? Charlie brings something different with his drive and shooting ability but his lack of mobility and the fact that the manager hasn't used him much lately suggests he still might not feature. Then there's Jon who has been a revelation under Hughes. His energy, endeavour and quality have been superb so far but mostly from the wide forward role. Hopefully Arnie's return to form could mean JW would be able to move inside on a more permanent basis without causing too many headaches assuming we get a new forward. Hopefully the board will give the gaffer the support he has earned and richly deserves. His astute and tactically excellent management as well as his eye for a bargain, must surely mean he should be trusted to go out and if necessary spend big (in Stoke terms). If ever this was going to happen at least the timing of it gives us a few days to try and address the situation. Time to back your man Mr Coates, he deserves it and the team needs it, especially if you want a real crack at the F.A. Cup this year. I was going to start a new thread titled "A new day, how's everyone feeling". Reading this, I guess I don't have to bother. Everyone is still depressed.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2015 9:19:35 GMT
We don't despetately need new signings Depends on your point of view. If you want to stumble through the rest of the season and not pull up any trees then you're right. If you are looking at us having a really good season, I'd humbly suggest that you're wrong. I love Bojan as much as the next Stokie and was starting to see a superstar the making with him, as I predicted we would I have to say but with or without new signings, we have some very good players amongst our ranks, the bulk of which fired us to 50 points and 9th place from a worse league position than we find ourselves in today. With or without Bojan or a new signing to replace him, we will still go on to have a very good season. We are a very good team on our day. It might not be the dream season that culminates with an FA Cup win, but it will still finish a very good season all the same. Next season, with Bojan back stronger and fitter than ever, we could win the lot!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 28, 2015 9:20:21 GMT
Thankfully our league status looks pretty much secured but there can be no doubt we need to act before the window closes. Prior to Bojan's devastating injury we probably needed striker and a winger but you have to wonder whether MH will sacrifice one of those two in order to fill the void left by the little magician's absence. I suppose a lot depends on the faith Hughes has in the likes of Ireland, Charlie and Jon to potentially cover that position. Realistically Ireland could do it to a degree but can we count on his fitness week in week out? Charlie brings something different with his drive and shooting ability but his lack of mobility and the fact that the manager hasn't used him much lately suggests he still might not feature. Then there's Jon who has been a revelation under Hughes. His energy, endeavour and quality have been superb so far but mostly from the wide forward role. Hopefully Arnie's return to form could mean JW would be able to move inside on a more permanent basis without causing too many headaches assuming we get a new forward. Hopefully the board will give the gaffer the support he has earned and richly deserves. His astute and tactically excellent management as well as his eye for a bargain, must surely mean he should be trusted to go out and if necessary spend big (in Stoke terms). If ever this was going to happen at least the timing of it gives us a few days to try and address the situation. Time to back your man Mr Coates, he deserves it and the team needs it, especially if you want a real crack at the F.A. Cup this year. I was going to start a new thread titled "A new day, how's everyone feeling". Reading this, I guess I don't have to bother. Everyone is still depressed. Yep! Goooooaaaarrrrnnn Stoke though!!
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 28, 2015 9:20:57 GMT
Go fo Yarmalenko whatever the price.
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Post by cousindupree on Jan 28, 2015 10:27:21 GMT
Bojan is a huge loss as he is a potential match winner. Now Coates and co should really be looking at where we are in the season. We have a winnable 5th tie and with more luck (boy do we deserve it) we could reach at last a semi arning us some decent dosh. Also a top ten finish adds more money to the Bet365 bank balance. Surely its time to ensure we achieve these goals by investing in improving the squad? Just by doing nothing would be to miss a huge opportunity
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 28, 2015 10:33:08 GMT
Bojan is a huge loss as he is a potential match winner. Now Coates and co should really be looking at where we are in the season. We have a winnable 5th tie and with more luck (boy do we deserve it) we could reach at last a semi arning us some decent dosh. Also a top ten finish adds more money to the Bet365 bank balance. Surely its time to ensure we achieve these goals by investing in improving the squad? Just by doing nothing would be to miss a huge opportunity Who do you think we should go for? There really doesn't seem to be many options.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 28, 2015 10:34:12 GMT
Depends on your point of view. If you want to stumble through the rest of the season and not pull up any trees then you're right. If you are looking at us having a really good season, I'd humbly suggest that you're wrong. I love Bojan as much as the next Stokie and was starting to see a superstar the making with him, as I predicted we would I have to say but with or without new signings, we have some very good players amongst our ranks, the bulk of which fired us to 50 points and 9th place from a worse league position than we find ourselves in today. With or without Bojan or a new signing to replace him, we will still go on to have a very good season. We are a very good team on our day. It might not be the dream season that culminates with an FA Cup win, but it will still finish a very good season all the same. Next season, with Bojan back stronger and fitter than ever, we could win the lot! We'll be more than fine, Dave I agree but I had really high hopes for the second half of the season and was looking to mid to late 50's points and hopefully a cup final. It could happen if we don't strengthen but it'll be a stretch.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 28, 2015 10:35:52 GMT
Go fo Yarmalenko whatever the price. How would you like to pay for that sir? Cash or card?
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Post by chiefdelilah on Jan 28, 2015 10:40:10 GMT
It's strange to say it given how outstanding he's been, but Bojan coming good has been a bonus really. There wasn't a wage of expectation on him, we had options without him and had he flopped it wouldn't have been a disaster given the low fee.
Of course, he's been absolutely phenomenal and given us a hero of the like we've not had for a while. He's become the talisman but we are not a one man team.
Moses, Arnie, Diouf, Crouch and Walters are all good players and all have something to offer.
I think we have enough options for that central number 10 role to survive until the summer. We need to replace Assaidi in the squad and we could, ideally, do with a proper number 9. Those are the immediate priorities IMO.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jan 28, 2015 10:42:16 GMT
It's strange to say it given how outstanding he's been, but Bojan coming good has been a bonus really. There wasn't a wage of expectation on him, we had options without him and had he flopped it wouldn't have been a disaster given the low fee. Of course, he's been absolutely phenomenal and given us a hero of the like we've not had for a while. He's become the talisman but we are not a one man team. Moses, Arnie, Diouf, Crouch and Walters are all good players and all have something to offer. I think we have enough options for that central number 10 role to survive until the summer. We need to replace Assaidi in the squad and we could, ideally, do with a proper number 9. Those are the immediate priorities IMO. Yeah they're the main issues still, Rob. Factor in losing Odemwingie as well and we are three or four down from where we have been ideally. I think two in would be a massive boost.
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Post by KevinWhimper on Jan 28, 2015 10:46:49 GMT
Personally I'd take a gamble on Taarabt at the right price of course. Got previous with Sparky and Bowen who seem to quite like him by all accounts.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 10:46:55 GMT
I still say a striker is wha we need! End of!
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Post by cousindupree on Jan 28, 2015 10:48:06 GMT
As I mentioned on another thread I am not convinced even with Bojan in the team we have reached the heights of the end of last season. Wingy was the catalyst for that superb run and another inspired signing could see us emulate that run again.We need options upfront but surely even without wingy and bojan our line up is as good if not better than last season
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 28, 2015 10:57:05 GMT
Go fo Yarmalenko whatever the price. How would you like to pay for that sir? Cash or card? Cash in a plain brown envelope like 'arry We can afford Yarmalenko.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 28, 2015 10:57:18 GMT
Panic buying is rarely the solution Furious masturbation sometimes is though !
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Post by mrcoke on Jan 28, 2015 11:10:52 GMT
I like Bojan, he's a star, but the panic over his injury on here is a bit ridiculous. It's not that long ago since I was reading numerous posts about what a pointless signing he was and that he wasn't living up to his potential. Now all of a sudden you'd think his injury had just got us relegated. He's just one player, he hasn't got our current league position on his own, there is a whole squad with him, all of whom are still playing. He is a good player, he's not yet hit "great" or "exceptional". I'm not knocking him I think we're in danger of getting carried away. Are we so "small time" that one injury wipes out the club and we'll be playing in the Alsager & District Sunday League next season? No! After so many successful years in the Premiership, as fans we need to stop sounding like Walsall or West Brom! We're much bigger and better than this. Or perhaps we're not, maybe I'm wrong and we really ARE just a small time club having a handful of good seasons but with no depth or quality in the squad. I'd like to think not after all my years following the club, but who knows? Short version: Even if we buy nobody, we are absolutely fine. I agree, although I do think Bojan is an exceptional talent and has made a big impact on the team's form. Stoke can win without him and I think signing Wollscheid will help stop the silly defensive errors that cost so many lost points in the first couple of months of the season. Regarding what you remember about "pointless signing", I posted this link yesterday: oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/235266/bojan-krkic?page=1
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Post by Kjones9 on Jan 28, 2015 12:03:58 GMT
How would you like to pay for that sir? Cash or card? Cash in a plain brown envelope like 'arry We can afford Yarmalenko. Tie it to Rosie's collar and send her to the Ukraine.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 28, 2015 12:25:59 GMT
I love Bojan as much as the next Stokie and was starting to see a superstar the making with him, as I predicted we would I have to say but with or without new signings, we have some very good players amongst our ranks, the bulk of which fired us to 50 points and 9th place from a worse league position than we find ourselves in today. With or without Bojan or a new signing to replace him, we will still go on to have a very good season. We are a very good team on our day. It might not be the dream season that culminates with an FA Cup win, but it will still finish a very good season all the same. Next season, with Bojan back stronger and fitter than ever, we could win the lot! We'll be more than fine, Dave I agree but I had really high hopes for the second half of the season and was looking to mid to late 50's points and hopefully a cup final. It could happen if we don't strengthen but it'll be a stretch. I agree mate as I'm sure many many others do. That is probably why Bojan's injury has impacted on us all so hard because we could clearly see him the key individual in making our dreams come true. I was all set to put him into my dream team and boldly predicted a further 8-10 goals from him between Leicester and the end of the season. He'd already got 2 in 2!
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