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Post by riccyfuller93 on Jan 15, 2015 21:26:19 GMT
2 different positions. Aguero has much more of an appetite for goal, but Sanchez is fantastic with the ball at his feet and has an absolute engine on him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 15, 2015 21:29:11 GMT
Aguero.
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Post by swampySCFC on Jan 15, 2015 21:30:36 GMT
Its a close one for me but I'm going for Altidore
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Post by Gifton on Jan 15, 2015 22:26:06 GMT
Agueroooooooooooooo......
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Post by dime on Jan 15, 2015 22:32:07 GMT
Different type of player, but if I had to pick one to be in this Stoke team it has to be Aguero, strong, fast, and a lethal finishing instinct.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2015 22:54:39 GMT
Close??
Aguero by a country mile.
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Post by sheriff on Jan 15, 2015 23:40:05 GMT
Aguero by a long way. Sanchez is a great player, but he's also playing above himself at the moment. He's a big fish in a rather small pond (despite that pond being one of the 'big four'). He's made to look good by half decent players like Giroud and Welbeck because he is head and shoulders above them. At Barcelona, playing with his equals, he was out of his depth. His goal scoring record was decent, but Neymar's was better and Pedro's was similar. Yes, there's an argument to say Barcelona build their team fundamentally around Messi and this goes against Sanchez, but ultimately, Sanchez failed to impress in a team with world class players all around him. Barcelona fans weren't screaming at the sky above when he left. Most didn't consider him a first team player, or anywhere near good enough. Neymar walked in and made an instant impact, something Sanchez never got close to doing. Aguero is a special player. He is a striker who has huge amounts of talent to go with the natural goal scoring instinct. His shots are instinctive, but they're not hit and hope or merely on target. They are ruthless, they are always perfectly placed and as far as finishers go, he is probably the best in the world. For me, a goal that sums up Aguero is the one he scored against Man Utd in this clip below. He is running away from several defenders, at pace, with the ball, he literally has no time to think about the shot, yet when he finally hits it the strike is absolutely unstoppable. No keeper in the world is saving that, and perhaps the best in league currently got nowhere near it whatsoever. 2:42 for those interested. Aguero is my best player in the PL, but this isn't really a valid argument. Players like Henry, Ibrahimovic, Fabregas, David Villa and even recently Suarez have all struggled to replicate their prime form in Barcelona. It's a very unique team with a unique way of playing. Forwards that want the early ball in behind are often frustrated by the tiki-taka, measured build-up. CF's like Ibrahimovic occupy the same spaces as Messi and are less effective. Direct midfielders like Cesc who are forward thinking have to play with the hand-brakes on because the philosophy demands a compact, intricate passing game. It's not always a measure of your true ability. Aguero himself struggles in Messi's shadow for the Argentine national team and their most reliable striker has often been Higuain. If anything, the Arsenal team have let Alexis down. Only Fabregas has created more chances than Alexis this season, but he has just 7 league assists to Cesc's 14. The one-on-one where Walcott couldn't even hit the target from Alexis' pass in the Arsenal-Stoke game illustrates why. Walcott can't keep fit, Giroud is slow and ponderous and Welbeck is an absolute donkey and the midfielders aren't scoring - unlike Ramsey last season. It's strange to claim a player is playing well because his teammates are poor. That's not very logical. And many of your facts are wrong. Alexis outscored Neymar last season - by 10 goals in La Liga alone, but 6 goals overall. He also outscored Pedro in each of his 3 seasons in Barca. And contrary to your comment, Alexis was very much a regular in Barca. He was certainly in Messi's vast shadow, but he was a good, regular player for them. As for the comparison itself, it's not like-for-like. Alexis creates vastly more than Aguero (almost 4 times as many chances created), makes more dribbles, covers a much greater distance and defensively, he has won more tackles and interceptions than the 3 players that have scored more than him COMBINED. He has a lot more in common with Hazard than Aguero. Aguero has better finishing and techique, but if football were all about technical ability, Ronaldo wouldn't be currently better than Messi - and he is.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 16, 2015 11:52:21 GMT
Aguero by a long way. Sanchez is a great player, but he's also playing above himself at the moment. He's a big fish in a rather small pond (despite that pond being one of the 'big four'). He's made to look good by half decent players like Giroud and Welbeck because he is head and shoulders above them. At Barcelona, playing with his equals, he was out of his depth. His goal scoring record was decent, but Neymar's was better and Pedro's was similar. Yes, there's an argument to say Barcelona build their team fundamentally around Messi and this goes against Sanchez, but ultimately, Sanchez failed to impress in a team with world class players all around him. Barcelona fans weren't screaming at the sky above when he left. Most didn't consider him a first team player, or anywhere near good enough. Neymar walked in and made an instant impact, something Sanchez never got close to doing. Aguero is a special player. He is a striker who has huge amounts of talent to go with the natural goal scoring instinct. His shots are instinctive, but they're not hit and hope or merely on target. They are ruthless, they are always perfectly placed and as far as finishers go, he is probably the best in the world. For me, a goal that sums up Aguero is the one he scored against Man Utd in this clip below. He is running away from several defenders, at pace, with the ball, he literally has no time to think about the shot, yet when he finally hits it the strike is absolutely unstoppable. No keeper in the world is saving that, and perhaps the best in league currently got nowhere near it whatsoever. 2:42 for those interested. Aguero is my best player in the PL, but this isn't really a valid argument. Players like Henry, Ibrahimovic, Fabregas, David Villa and even recently Suarez have all struggled to replicate their prime form in Barcelona. It's a very unique team with a unique way of playing. Forwards that want the early ball in behind are often frustrated by the tiki-taka, measured build-up. CF's like Ibrahimovic occupy the same spaces as Messi and are less effective. Direct midfielders like Cesc who are forward thinking have to play with the hand-brakes on because the philosophy demands a compact, intricate passing game. It's not always a measure of your true ability. Aguero himself struggles in Messi's shadow for the Argentine national team and their most reliable striker has often been Higuain. If anything, the Arsenal team have let Alexis down. Only Fabregas has created more chances than Alexis this season, but he has just 7 league assists to Cesc's 14. The one-on-one where Walcott couldn't even hit the target from Alexis' pass in the Arsenal-Stoke game illustrates why. Walcott can't keep fit, Giroud is slow and ponderous and Welbeck is an absolute donkey and the midfielders aren't scoring - unlike Ramsey last season. It's strange to claim a player is playing well because his teammates are poor. That's not very logical. And many of your facts are wrong. Alexis outscored Neymar last season - by 10 goals in La Liga alone, but 6 goals overall. He also outscored Pedro in each of his 3 seasons in Barca. And contrary to your comment, Alexis was very much a regular in Barca. He was certainly in Messi's vast shadow, but he was a good, regular player for them. As for the comparison itself, it's not like-for-like. Alexis creates vastly more than Aguero (almost 4 times as many chances created), makes more dribbles, covers a much greater distance and defensively, he has won more tackles and interceptions than the 3 players that have scored more than him COMBINED. He has a lot more in common with Hazard than Aguero. Aguero has better finishing and techique, but if football were all about technical ability, Ronaldo wouldn't be currently better than Messi - and he is. So as an Arsenal fan, your best player in the prem is Sanchez... how predictable.
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Post by agingerstokie on Jan 16, 2015 11:56:08 GMT
As an after thought to my original post, I didn't come up with the comparison I'm well aware that they operate in two different positions but Sky compared them and I thought I'd bring the debate over to the Stoke board
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Post by stokiejoe on Jan 16, 2015 11:58:05 GMT
When did we sign this pair? Must have missed it.
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Post by pez75 on Jan 16, 2015 12:02:48 GMT
Sanchez, he is a complete striker and can defend from the front Aguero isn't/doesn't?? Aguero does not stand around waiting for the ball - his constant movement, pulling of defenders and footballing brain is something to behold. No-one in the world can touch him in his position other than maybe Suarez IMO.
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Post by sheriff on Jan 16, 2015 12:50:33 GMT
So as an Arsenal fan, your best player in the prem is Sanchez... how predictable. No, he's not. The clue is in my very first sentence in that comment. Just refuting the illogical arguments. If you're going to argue a player is better than the other, you have to find something better than "Alexis looks good because Arsenal are crap". For starters, he joined a team that finished 7 points off the title winners last season, with an unbroken 18-year spell in the English top 4 (in the last 5 years alone, every other team has dropped out). He didn't join Burnley. And many of the presented facts were very wrong or thoroughly distorted to suit the argument. I have reasons I rate Aguero higher (for me, the best player in England), but those were pi.ss poor arguments.
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Post by sheriff on Jan 16, 2015 12:54:51 GMT
And it's worth stating again that it's not a very fair comparison. It's like comparing Zabaleta to Kompany. Alexis and Aguero don't play the same roles at all. They're only being compared because Alexis scores goals.
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Post by metalhead on Jan 16, 2015 12:59:18 GMT
So as an Arsenal fan, your best player in the prem is Sanchez... how predictable. No, he's not. The clue is in my very first sentence in that comment. Just refuting the illogical arguments. If you're going to argue a player is better than the other, you have to find something better than "Alexis looks good because Arsenal are crap". For starters, he joined a team that finished 7 points off the title winners last season, with an unbroken 18-year spell in the English top 4 (in the last 5 years alone, every other team has dropped out). He didn't join Burnley. And many of the presented facts were very wrong or thoroughly distorted to suit the argument. I have reasons I rate Aguero higher (for me, the best player in England), but those were pi.ss poor arguments. OK, so let's compare Sanchez to Ronaldo... Ronaldo is better. Happy?
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Post by DelapsWankingArm on Jan 16, 2015 13:40:04 GMT
Aguero.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2015 13:46:58 GMT
Had this pole on SSN yesterday - two things
1) what form of retarded imbecile votes on these things for a TV show ?
2) like I give a running fuck in whatever media
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Post by upthefud on Jan 16, 2015 22:42:35 GMT
Had this pole on SSN yesterday - two things 1) what form of retarded imbecile votes on these things for a TV show ? 2) like I give a running fuck in whatever media But you give a running fuck enough to comment on a fair debate?
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Post by tijuanabrass on Jan 16, 2015 22:58:11 GMT
Had this pole on SSN yesterday Was he from Warsaw or Kraków
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jan 17, 2015 8:30:51 GMT
Aguero everyday of the week for me. Hes a beast he also takes some knocking off the ball as well which is great to see. Sanchez needs to shut up moaning because for all his talent he just comes across as a whinging cunt.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 17, 2015 9:00:55 GMT
Sanchez...more to his game. As stated above he was really is the complete forward. Gutted he plays for Arsenal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2015 9:42:24 GMT
Difficult because they're not like-for-like in their approach or position really. I'd still take Aguero out of the two if I had to choose. Whilst I understand those who say Sanchez has carried his team at times this season, but so has Aguero. If it wasn't for him and his goals when they were playing some pretty average stuff in October/November, they'd be nowhere near Chelsea right now.
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